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I spent half day review the 09 elementary school report cards and not surprising found most of the higher ranking schools in Ottawa are French catholic schools. It looks like they make efforts in academic, which is what we want the kids to do too.

To my surprise, one of the top french school is just within the walking distance from where we live(but i've never noticed it before).

The dilemma now is that even the best of our three designated English schools from OCDSB ranks only less than 5 out 10 :<, and the overall trend of these schools' performance are getting worse and worse. !!!

Any Mom thinks it is practical to send kids to a French school, even the parents no nothing about Frence at all ? Do they follow all the French edcation system later on for high schools ?

Just for now. Thanks for any inputs !

[Sean Mama]

这是个很好话题，让妈妈们都进来说说，特别是孩子们都比较大的妈妈们，她们就更有经验了。

为什么法语学校总是表现好些？我知道其中一个原因，请大家不要不高兴，只是实话实说，就是很多新移民家庭的孩子都不在这种纯法语的学校。也知道有几位中国妈妈把孩子也送去了，都是经过打拼的结果。

[rosam]

I thought only french or the at least one of the parents educated from a french school, then their kids can go to french school. You have to show documents and stuff like that to the school. This is what they so call the right for french to educate in their own language, whatever, baloney! I wanted to put my kids in a french school, but I'm not qualified.

[Sean Mama]

作者: rosam

I thought only french or the at least one of the parents educated from a french school, then their kids can go to french school. You have to show documents and stuff like that to the school. This is what they so call the right for french to educate in their own language, whatever, baloney! I wanted to put my kids in a french school, but I'm not qualified.

你可以，就象我认识的那些妈妈一样，如果你是移民。直接找校长或负责招生的负责人，陈述你是多么多么希望孩子能接受法语教育，法语是多么的重要，作为新移民...软硬兼施，死缠烂打（是有点难听），但成功率很高，不仅能这样坚持做到的人不多。一般来说，很多人得到地一次拒绝后就不会再试了。是成功的妈妈们告诉我的。

[hellenzqq]

我看来是比较放养的妈妈，买房子的时候也根本没看学校排名，就知道附近有小学还挺近，就很ＨＡＰＰＹ了。附近有２个法语小学，一个很大，一个很小，去参观了下，让儿子自己选择喜欢哪个。结果他看上大学校的超大滑滑梯。。。就选择要上大滑滑梯的学校。这个是个catholic school，我老公本来还不倾向这个，因为说不希望孩子太早接受宗教灌输，虽然我儿子受过洗，但是还是希望他更自由的选择。现在没办法，给一个大滑滑梯套牢。。。。

看了好多妈妈对评分什么都很有研究，现在觉得自己是不是太草率了，唉。。。。。每次一看妈妈们讨论这个，我心里就开始后悔了，现在名也报完了，事情已经这样了，我都根本不敢去查排名了，怕如果查出来学校评分太差，那我以后Ｎ年都要难受了。。。。。哭

法语学校所有的联系啊，作业啊，乱七八糟的都是法语的，如果家长都不懂法语的话，对孩子的监督帮助方面，会比较麻烦。学校开家长会啊什么的，也都是全法语，这也是为什么学校一般要求家长至少有一方能说法语。

我知道有些英语学校都开始法语课程，还有教西班牙语的，我觉得如果希望孩子多学几种语言，这也是个好办法倒是。

[C est La Vie]

作者: rosam

I thought only french or the at least one of the parents educated from a french school, then their kids can go to french school. You have to show documents and stuff like that to the school. This is what they so call the right for french to educate in their own language, whatever, baloney! I wanted to put my kids in a french school, but I'm not qualified.

Total baloney!

Don't other people have the right to educate their children in their own language, such as Chinese?

This is unfair. Power talks. The French has power, that's all.

[C est La Vie]

Bye Bye Ontario's Catholic School Board...
Check this out...The United Nations has declaired that Ontario's Catholic School Boards are in direct violation with the Covenant of Human Rights...scary, no?...Oh...by the way...they declaired them illegal 8 YEARS AGO!

Here's the 1999 ruling...
www.unhchr.ch/tbs/doc.nsf/(Sym.....endocument

As a product of the Catholic school board, I have determined that it is totally useless...the religion class/movie-watching class we have takes up 75 minutes a day and 1 credit a year...a credit that could be better spent taking a USEFUL class...

Upwards of 50% of the students in my school have no religious affiliation (besides having all the Catholic stuff done to them before they could object), are atheists or are from different religions and are just attending the school because it is close.

It's time to get rid of the Catholic school boards...I'd say keep em if they instilled a few morals into people...but as my Atheist Religion teacher once told me...

"You can't instil morals into teens when you're trying to instil fear into them as well..."

any thoughts?...

erl

[C est La Vie]

Did you know that the Ontario Catholic school system is the only publicly funded religious school system in Canada? That means that if you’re an Ontario taxpayer, you’re helping to fund a religious education for about a million students—even if you’re not Catholic. And of course, while we all share the same tax burden, it’s only those of Roman Catholic faith that are guaranteed the choice of publicly-funded schools.

And isn’t also curious—especially during election time—that political parties and politicians are arguing over how to best invest in education, and at a time when cutbacks are continuously being made to the educational system, that we continue to pour hundreds of millions of dollars into maintaining two separate school boards, one of which has the legal right to discriminate against non-Catholic students and teachers? It’s true, the United Nations censured Canada two times for discriminating against its own citizens by fully-funding Catholic schools to the exclusion of others.

And of course, there’s the tens of thousands of Catholic school students—I was one of them—who are bussed past the nearest publicly-funded school to another publicly-funded school. Now, isn’t this financially and environmentally irresponsible to be wasting so much in so many ways on a 150-year old institution that some people say isn’t even necessary anymore? And isn’t this religious segregation? Aren’t we undermining the development of a tolerant and respectful community of students in Ontario?

Find out where your politicians, your candidates, stand on fixing the educational system. Remember, governments may make school systems, but you make governments. This is Moment of YOUth.
The Ontario Catholic School Board

[ocean_deep]

Let's talk about the education again. It took a lot of courage for a Chinese couple to send and keep kids in a French school, but how do kids learn English afterwards ? At home, only chinese is already a load of work.

At the same time, my focus is not the language, but the academic. Say if there is a Chinese school with good scores, I would definitely consider it. It's getting harder and harder to ask kids study and work hard. Right ? That's why a good school environment becomes important to us.

I am still searching for answers.....

[wiki]

不知道LZ指的French Catholic School是哪几家。据我所知，去年排名靠前的几家基本上都是French Public School，比如Kanata的Kanata，Orleans的Des Sentiers, Le Prelude, Franco-Jeunesse等。我不觉得catholic school的教学质量比public school高。

我听说的跟rosam一样，是说如果母语不是法文，那父母一方要在小学或中学受过法文教育的才能上法文学校。我查了查French Public School的注册规定，的确是这样的：

Qui peut fréquenter l'école publique de langue française?

Le CEPEO accueille tous les élèves à la recherche d'une éducation de haute qualité en langue française. Pour être admis à ses écoles, l'élève doit répondre aux critères stipulés à l'article 23 de la Charte canadienne des droits et libertés et dans la Loi sur l'éducation en Ontario.

L'élève doit donc répondre aux critères suivants :

Lieu de résidence

· l’élève réside en Ontario sur le territoire scolaire du Conseil des écoles publiques de l'Est de l'Ontario (CEPEO);

· le père, la mère, la tutrice ou le tuteur est contribuable au Conseil des écoles publiques de l'Est de l'Ontario.

Langue

Le père, la mère, la tutrice ou le tuteur doit rencontrer l'un ou l'autre des critères linguistiques suivants : 父亲，母亲，监护人须满足以下语言要求：

· la première langue apprise et encore comprise est le français; 母语为法文
· il ou elle a reçu son instruction, au niveau élémentaire, en français au Canada; 父母一方或监护人的小学或中学教育是法文
· il ou elle est parent, tutrice ou tuteur d'un enfant qui a reçu ou reçoit son instruction, au niveau élémentaire ou secondaire, en français au Canada. 已经有孩子在法文小学或中学读书


Âge

À l’élémentaire, l'élève admis doit :

· avoir atteint l'âge de 4 ans avant le 31 décembre de l'année scolaire pour être inscrit à la maternelle;
· avoir atteint l'âge de 5 ans avant le 31 décembre de l'année scolaire pour être inscrit au jardin;
· avoir atteint l'âge de 6 ans avant le 31 décembre de l'année scolaire pour être inscrit en 1ère année.

Au secondaire, l’élève doit avoir terminé avec succès ses études élémentaires.

Comité d’admission

L’élève qui ne répond pas aux critères mentionnés ci-haut pourrait être admis à l’école publique de langue française si sa demande d’admission est approuvée à la majorité des voix par les membres du Conseil.

[hellenzqq]

作者: C'est La Vie

Total baloney!

Don't other people have the right to educate their children in their own language, such as Chinese?

This is unfair. Power talks. The French has power, that's all.

其实要说ＵＮＦＡＩＲ，我觉得学校的事还不算ＵＮＦＡＩＲ的了，你还不知道，ＯＴＴＡＷＡ法语的ＰＬＡＹＧＲＯＵＰ，陪同的家长都必须是说法语的。比如我的孩子，法语还是他母语之一，但是如果是我妈妈带他去上法语ＰＬＡＹＧＲＯＵＰ，就不可以。他们说的原因是，陪同的家长如果不和自己的孩子说法语，会影响别的小朋友的语言。。。你说这个理由才够ＵＮＦＡＩＲ吧。第一我妈也不会去跟别的小朋友交流，第二我儿子和别的小朋友交流都是说法语的，但是还是不行。

他们称这个为保护法语，那我个人认为如果想保护法语，应该是鼓励更多的人去学习去说法语，而不是反过来这么局限法语，但是这里制度就是这样的，我投诉过，不过没用。

[还很远]

胡乱的想，文盲的孩子是否没有权利上学了？

[rosam]

It's unfair. My husband took french at school,but it was in Winnipeg, there who cares about French. it's was compulsory, part of the education. I also took a bit of french, but there no environment for you to talk, you lost it. If you live in quebec city for a couple of years, sure you can pick up some. (basically, people there can't speak a word of english, they live in their own universe.) Now my son will go to catholic school 'coz my husband is catholic and my kids are baptized. Anyways, do you know which catholic elementary/high schools in Kanata/stittsville are good/ Any info.?

[wiki]

作者: rosam

It's unfair. My husband took french at school,but it was in Winnipeg, there who cares about French. it's was compulsory, part of the education. I also took a bit of french, but there no environment for you to talk, you lost it. If you live in quebec city for a couple of years, sure you can pick up some. (basically, people there can't speak a word of english, they live in their own universe.) Now my son will go to catholic school 'coz my husband is catholic and my kids are baptized. Anyways, do you know which catholic elementary/high schools in Kanata/stittsville are good/ Any info.?

It's not just receiving courses in French, what the shcool board meant was that at least one of the parents must have studied in French schools for their elementary or secondary education.

[wiki]

不过我们现在也还在犹豫：一方面希望孩子能成为真正的双语，一方面又担心上了法文学校不好跟孩子交流，也没法辅导作业等。