[roaring mouse]

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在西方国家，自己放弃投票，意味着自己放弃权利，意味着尊重和承认其他投票者替自己做的选择。

你大可不必指望海外中国人，也不必在这里用蹙脚的英文分析投票率了， 我要求不高，就是希望老共将大陆人民选举自己村长和乡长的权利，还给人民，这要求高吗？这要求不合理吗？

我要求不高，就是希望你选举村长.

giving up one's vote does not mean others can vote for him. when people do not see any benefits of voting, why bother? when no one represents your interest, do you vote or whom do you vote?

[contractor]

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sorry for the confusion; i mean US media.

even though the goverment might not control the media, the media is controlled by those who exert control over goverment.

不要以为美国对以色列的支持，是媒体造成的。街头的无家可归者和比尔盖茨同样拥有一票，除了因为候选人的经济政策对公司有利，捐点钱造造势，你说比尔盖茨怎么控制布什？话说回来了，如果布什一定要用什么手段搞垮微软（如果他有什么不违法的手段），没有了微软的就业机会和税收，这对老百姓有什么好处？

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i do not know the case in canada; there are goverment run media agencies in US and UK and the leaders there are appointed by the gov. if the chinese goverment owns certain media companies, they have the right to fire or hire anyone they like.

能不能讲讲，哪个美国的公共媒体受美国政府控制？

[contractor]

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giving up one's vote does not mean others can vote for him. when people do not see any benefits of voting, why bother? when no one represents your interest, do you vote or whom do you vote?

你能不能告诉我，有没有比民众投票更代表民意的方式？暴力革命？

[roaring mouse]

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能不能讲讲，哪个美国的公共媒体受美国政府控制？

how about the Voice of America?

[roaring mouse]

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你能不能告诉我，有没有比民众投票更代表民意的方式？暴力革命？

Yes. 投票 and 暴力革命 have the same results, making a choice.

Democracy is no solution to the world's problems. Aristocracy, meritocracy. Ways of governing change over time and place.

Hamas was elected; but still considered terrorists. How about Hitler? Do you want an Iraqi style of democracy?

[contractor]

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how about the Voice of America?

你闹笑话了，VOA不是公众媒体，它是政府的一个部门，相当于中宣部。但是VOA这个“中宣部”，和CNN等公众媒体没有一点关系，也不可能“指导”其他公众媒体。

其实，你这个笑话，早有人闹过。

[roaring mouse]

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街头的无家可归者和比尔盖茨同样拥有一票？

yes, the homeless has a vote in his or her hand. will he or she bother to vote when he or she does not know where his or her next meal is? will you babble here when you are homeless or go hungry?

[contractor]

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Yes. 投票 and 暴力革命 have the same results, making a choice.

Democracy is no solution to the world's problems. Aristocracy, meritocracy. Ways of governing change over time and place.

Hamas was elected; but still considered terrorists. How about Hitler? Do you want an Iraqi style of democracy?

你对 暴力革命 的推崇，和左右两派都不一样。

希特勒很清楚选举所代表的民意。他能被选上台，也肯定能被选下台。所以，他上台不久，立即修改宪法，将自己封为永远的执政者。

[roaring mouse]

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你闹笑话了，VOA不是公众媒体，它是政府的一个部门，相当于中宣部。但是VOA这个“中宣部”，和CNN等公众媒体没有一点关系，也不可能“指导”其他公众媒体。

其实，你这个笑话，早有人闹过。

You asked about goverment controlled media? VOA is one. It is not made for domestic consumption; it is for swaying people around the world, especially in those countries considered unfriendly.

IF you think VOA is like 中宣部, 你闹笑话了; it is not for domestic consumption.

This is from their official website:

On October 1, 1999, the Broadcasting Board Governors (BBG) became the independent federal agency responsible for all U.S. government and government sponsored, non-military, international broadcasting. This was the result of the 1998 Foreign Affairs Reform and Restructuring Act (Public Law 105-277), the single most important legislation affecting U.S. international broadcasting since the early 1950s.

[contractor]

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yes, the homeless has a vote in his or her hand. will he or she bother to vote when he or she does not know where his or her next meal is? will you babble here when you are homeless or go hungry?

当然他会感兴趣，因为不同的候选人将在任期内，提供不同的meal，而这正是这个 homeless 最关心的，你说呢？

[contractor]

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You asked about goverment controlled media? VOA is one. It is not made for domestic consumption; it is for swaying people around the world, especially in those countries considered unfriendly.

IF you think VOA is like 中宣部, 你闹笑话了; it is not for domestic consumption.

This is from their official website:

On October 1, 1999, the Broadcasting Board Governors (BBG) became the independent federal agency responsible for all U.S. government and government sponsored, non-military, international broadcasting. This was the result of the 1998 Foreign Affairs Reform and Restructuring Act (Public Law 105-277), the single most important legislation affecting U.S. international broadcasting since the early 1950s.

再说一遍，VOA不是公众媒体。你说的BBG，也是同样的道理。

[roaring mouse]

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你对 暴力革命 的推崇，和左右两派都不一样。

希特勒很清楚选举所代表的民意。他能被选上台，也肯定能被选下台。所以，他上台不久，立即修改宪法，将自己封为永远的执政者。

I am against any form of 暴力革命. for me, life is sacred. I am against death penalty, abortion and war. you misunderstood me. simply put, if you want democracy, do not just talk, act. the communists took over China through battles; but they also went through torture, murder and imprisonment. if you want to fight for democracy, at least you should have the courage to stay put when being faced with torture or imprinsonment. do you have the power of civil disobedience and you have the power of one against the mighty? do you have the courage of the young man blocking the tanks? or Nelson Mandella? I do not.

[summer-000]

相当于中宣部？
你真的认为流浪汉和比尔盖茨有一样的对谁当选和国家政策的决策的影响力？

不过是你狡辩的理由，还是你在找骂？？？

最初由 contractor 发布


你闹笑话了，VOA不是公众媒体，它是政府的一个部门，相当于中宣部。但是VOA这个“中宣部”，和CNN等公众媒体没有一点关系，也不可能“指导”其他公众媒体。

其实，你这个笑话，早有人闹过。

[roaring mouse]

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当然他会感兴趣，因为不同的候选人将在任期内，提供不同的meal，而这正是这个 homeless 最关心的，你说呢？

wrong. 候选人 are smart guys; will they bother to feed those who do not vote? they only kiss the babies of those who vote?

[roaring mouse]

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再说一遍，VOA不是公众媒体。你说的BBG，也是同样的道理。

再说一遍 is useless. I


f VOA is ok, why not CCTV?