[ert0000]

你们仔细听,基本比较客观,这 Nationalism 是很好的弹药.他们最怕的就是中国人有Nationalism.有很多时候要敢出险招.




CBC CURRENT

China's Nationalism

In the run-up to the 2008 Olympics, China has faced harsh criticism about its crackdown on protests in Tibet. But inside China, the story is playing out somewhat differently. Many Chinese are celebrating their government's actions.

Indeed, some say Beijing didn't respond forcefully enough. The protests in Tibet and the West's condemnation of China's response to them are provoking a backlash and stoking a rising nationalist sentiment that Chinese officials are feeling obliged to respect.

And it's not just China's diplomats who are expressing concern. At the end of March 2008, pro-Chinese demonstraters gathered for a rally in Toronto to express support for Beijing on the issue of Tibet. Alexander Lao was one of the demonstraters and he joined us in Toronto.


China's Nationalism - Panel

This rising nationalist sentiment cuts two ways for the Chinese Government. On the one hand, it's a useful way of rallying its population in the face of criticism from the West. But it also makes it harder for Beijing to cozy up to western governments when it wants to.

For their thoughts on how this dynamic is playing out and what an emboldened China means for the rest of the world, we were joined by three people: from Edmonton by Wenran Jiang, Director of the China Institute at the University of Alberta in Edmonton; from Norman, Oklahoma by Peter Hayes Gries, author of China's New Nationalism and the Director of the Institute for China-US Studies at the University of Oklahoma in Norman, Oklahoma; and from Boston by Dibyesh Anand, a researcher at the Centre for the Study of Democracy at Westminster University and the author of Geopolitical Exotica: Tibet in Western Imagination.

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http://podcast.cbc.ca/mp3/currentdon...80402_5179.mp3

[ert0000]

海外华人留学生抗议的口气越重,对中国帮助最大.如果再加上一些对中国政府"软弱"的不满,那才对希望中国倒霉的敌人的打击最大.这想法估计不会被现在各大游行的核心主流采纳,不过这种策略在很多场合下有效,只要不是官方发言就行.反过来想我们有必要让"官方口气"的语言做主导呢?

我已经在一个西人论坛上看到几个弟兄已经用平民"愤青"的气愤和气势,让敌人的机枪哑火了.

[wuwei]

不用听就知道这 Nationalism 不是什么好的,不要太天真,如果有Nationalism那得提‘反华情绪’阵营,卡斯特罗一针见血的指出 "‘反华情绪’后面埋藏的真正原因其实质正是种族主义。”

[kpmgtd]

This is the word used by the "main-stream" guys. There is some difference between the two words. In some arrogant white trash's eyes, patriotism has moral advantage over nationalism. So, don't fall into the wording traps intentionally or unintentionally set up by them.

[-我本善良-]

作者: wuwei

不用听就知道这 Nationalism 不是什么好的,不要太天真,如果有Nationalism那得提‘反华情绪’阵营,卡斯特罗一针见血的指出 "‘反华情绪’后面埋藏的真正原因其实质正是种族主义。”

共产阵营的难兄难弟没几个了，
大势已去。。。

[夜色]

作者: -我本善良-

共产阵营的难兄难弟没几个了，
大势已去。。。

嗯，这话好像说了十几年还是几十年了？
继续说吧，崩溃派好像有一段时间没有出新理论了，我还指望你呢。

[labor]

作者: 夜色

嗯，这话好像说了十几年还是几十年了？
继续说吧，崩溃派好像有一段时间没有出新理论了，我还指望你呢。

我还真的是糊涂了，在过去十几，或者几十年里，社会主义阵营是越来越大，还是越来越小？