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My final words on this issue

Why don't we step back and think about the issue here. My understanding of how this thing started is as follows:

The issue: breeding your own pet.
My opinion: that's backyard breeding and it's wrong.

Many assumptions have been made towards either my stand on various pet issues or myself, so for the record, I'd like to state the following:

1. I love animals, they are the love of my life. I treat them like my own kind, sometimes even more so because of their unconditional devotion. So whatever the breed, purebred, mixed or alien, I don't care, I love them equally. Bear in mind that this is where I come from.

2. I want what's best for my PET, not myself, not anybody else, my PET. I want him to live a healthy and happy life with me and my family.

3. I am AGAINST backyard breeding, for whatever reason, it's wrong. Making money out of this is even worse, so I'm strongly against that as well.

4. I am AGAINST irresponsible pet ownership, for whatever reason. Irresponsible owner actions include but not all:
-buy and sell your pet the next day;
-do not take your pet to see the vet when he's sick;
-leave the pet in the yard/balcony to howl;
-abandon your pet just because you need a vacation.

Now my comments:
I don't think it's right to ask for apologies just because I don't agree with other's opinions. Thank God we live in a free country. So you are entitled to your opinion and so am I.

That being said, I do realize that my voice could sometimes be harsh, I'm aware of that and will continue to work on it. However that's MY problem. I would think that if everyone agrees on all things, then we are no longer human but robot. My voice, my way of approaching an issue, my principles made up the person I am today, that's what's making me a unique individual, and each person is unique in his/her own way.

If I hurt anyone in the process, that was NOT my intention. My intention was to:
1. share knowledge on responsible pet ownership;
2. share knowledge on my own experience with pet ownership.

I do wish that there could have been more maturity in this debate, so that we could have cleared the misunderstanding from the get-go, unfortunately that wasn't the case. While there is a lot left to be desired on the way I approached the issue, I am NOT going to compromise my principles just to please the majority of people, I stand firm behind this, there is no middle ground here. I WILL continue to do whatever needed to be done to promote responsible pet ownership and to promote the welfare of animals.

Finally, I sincerely apologize to the 2 moderators of this forum, although I am not wholy resonsible for the riot, I am partly, so for that I am truly sorry. I also want to congratulate the moderators on the way they handled the issue: firm, fair, mature and objective, I have A LOT to learn from these 2 young ladies.

This is a forum that unites pet lovers, so let it be the forum for pets and pet lovers please.
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旧 2005-04-07, 10:31 #1
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这里是中文论坛!会讲中国话不?回打中国字不!
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让你道歉不用说英文
还有我们在另一个帖子罗列你的错误自己看吧
去那里辩论吧
riven说了只开一个帖子
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楼主能不能打中文哦 ? .. 看着好费劲 ..
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看不懂,看不懂,这是中国人的论坛!
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哎 .. 装b ..
注意文明啊,灰色!!!
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哎 .. 装b ..
别说脏话我们是文明人
不然该封id 乐
我们只是跟她讨论
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啊 哈哈 .. 晕阿 我从来不认为这是脏话呀 .. 俺是农村来地 .. 俺们那块都这么说 ..

既然这样 俺就赶快去编辑一下 .. 俺怕被封ID啊 .. 嘿 ..
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啊 哈哈 .. 晕阿 我从来不认为这是脏话呀 .. 俺是农村来地 .. 俺们那块都这么说 ..

既然这样 俺就赶快去编辑一下 .. 俺怕被封ID啊 .. 嘿 ..
可不是 这个大吗咱们跟她只讨论
不说粗俗的
不过估计它是不懂了
就会胶合
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不要再争吵了
人家已经道歉了
你们也应该给人家台阶下,不要抓住不放.
她有她的狗狗节育观点,你们也有你们对狗狗不节育的观点,无所谓要为这个争吵.
其实这个争论就是因为渐渐当时说"生小狗就是为挣钱"引起的
既然她道歉了,或者你们再私下沟通一下,
唉..世界上没有所谓极坏的人,大家如果都做出一点让步,那有多好啊
本来有理的人别这样咄咄逼人反而不那么让人同情了
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不要再争吵了
人家已经道歉了
你们也应该给人家台阶下,不要抓住不放.
她有她的狗狗节育观点,你们也有你们对狗狗不节育的观点,无所谓要为这个争吵.
其实这个争论就是因为渐渐当时说"生小狗就是为挣钱"引起的
既然她道歉了,或者你们再私下沟通一下,
唉..世界上没有所谓极坏的人,大家如果都做出一点让步,那有多好啊
您都看到了他什么地方写了道歉了??
要是有它就是不是大妈渐渐了
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Finally, I sincerely apologize to the 2 moderators of this forum, although I am not wholy resonsible for the riot, I am partly, so for that I am truly sorry. I also want to congratulate the moderators on the way they handled the issue: firm, fair, mature and objective, I have A LOT to learn from these 2 young ladies

你要学得太多了首先就是做人的态度
不要总是幻想别人怎么样怎么样
没有依据就不要下判断
而且每个人有自己的观念概念
不要总是强加给别人知道不??
而且不要用教育的口吻
你不是谁的爸妈!!!!!
还有说话伤人(很多次)
希望你改改自己说话的态度
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请问您老那么喜欢教育别人,那么喜欢管事,那么不反对给猫猫狗狗的找男女朋友,你怎么和斑竹商量的把宠物相亲区给删了????你们不是关系很好吗?
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I do not know the moderators personally, although I would love to get to know them.
I agree that there are things that this forum could improve upon, 宠物相亲区 is just one example, but that's up to the forum moderators to decide.

Be very clear on this: what I say to anyone is my opinion and my opinion only. You can listen or not, it's up to you, but I'm going to say it anyway, because it's what I believe in.
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您都看到了他什么地方写了道歉了??
要是有它就是不是大妈渐渐了
Finally, I sincerely apologize to the 2 moderators of this forum, although I am not wholy resonsible for the riot, I am partly, so for that I am truly sorry.

这应该是道歉吧,不过不知道moderators 是什么意思?
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