这汤光文是什么人? 湖南黄金大米事件调查结果公布:事前未告知家长

[小 篆]

我不是医学专家，但是以我所知，肖的反射弧手术和其他手术一般是一起做的，手术有效的部分在情理上是其他手术的效果，反射弧部分如果不是使整体效果更坏，起码是没用。



肖本人是医学伦理的一个好例子。他主观上是非常想做好他的手术，如果不做反射弧他也应是个合格的泌尿外科大夫，在其他方面大概也曾拯救患者于水火。但他对反射弧的吹嘘和敛财是不符合医学伦理的，他也因此不配当个大夫。

手术有效就是王道。小艳丽的真相不是出来了吗？前一段微博上还有人放了另外好几个手术成功的视频。也有个别良心发现的医闹承认自己已经治愈，是拿了钱去闹的。太多信息了，你要愿意找，都找得到的。

 

[冷笑9声]

的确是偷换概念。这里有几个概念被故意弄混了来误导读者。

1。该试验的目的，是了解不同食品(包括转基因食品)对儿童吸收胡萝卜素这种营养的有效性的研究，不是对转基因食品的安全性(或毒性)的研究。正如同让两组人分别锻炼太极拳和瑜珈对健身的不同效果。这里的前提是，在美国和加拿大，转基因食品是安全的，这已经是共识。

老闹子，你真没看出来实验目的？我这么说你看对不对：
实验的目的是比较比儿童吃转基因大米和吃胶囊的（第三说是啥也不吃）对胡萝卜素维生素A的吸收。 它要说明的问题是吃黄金大米和吃胶囊同样有效。

要是拿太极拳和吃胶囊比，说明的是太极拳有效。

没人傻到拿太极拳和黄金大米比吧？

 

[Chiffon]

手术有效就是王道。小艳丽的真相不是出来了吗？前一段微博上还有人放了另外好几个手术成功的视频。也有个别良心发现的医闹承认自己已经治愈，是拿了钱去闹的。太多信息了，你要愿意找，都找得到的。

以肖的水平，做了那么多虚虚实实的手术，想全都没一点效果恐怕也不容易吧。肖一方的吹鼓手，在我这里已经信用破产了，实在没功夫多看了。晚安。

 

[冷笑9声]

3。这个试验的程序问题，因为中国大众普遍对转基因食品的科盲，而变得复杂了。在中国，这是可以理解的。在加拿大渥太华，大家自己天天吃着转基因，也跟着瞎起哄，有点不可思议。正如同国内的老人来了这里要给生病毒小孩吃板兰根，洋女婿大声嚷嚷“不得了，不得了，我孩子被下毒了！”这很好理解，因为洋人不懂板兰根。如果那个华人妈妈也跟着洋女婿起哄，也说老人给小孩下毒了，那不是她头脑坏了，就是她别有用心。大家觉得是不是这个理？

个人认为作为基因产品输入国，国人的觉悟比某些基因研究的科学家要高。 你的板蓝根例子听起来就不对，你去拿板蓝根给你邻居家小孩吃个试试？你以为科学实验和实验对象是一家人的关系？

 

[ZhiZuChangLe]

呵呵，不知道你们在吵啥。只希望我最敬重的哲学家和书法家别伤了和气。快过节了，大伙儿还是都平和一点吧。

 

[冷笑9声]

以肖的水平，做了那么多虚虚实实的手术，想全都没一点效果恐怕也不容易吧。肖一方的吹鼓手，在我这里已经信用破产了，实在没功夫多看了。晚安。

哲学，这就是哲学。

 

[冷笑9声]

自己天天吃着转基因食品的CFC们也跟着胡说八道添油加醋，实在可恶！

有点乱，你是说我们天天吃黄金大米？ 我倒是听说过食用油有的用专基因玉米作的，不敢买。。。还有啥阿？

 

[冷笑9声]

这么说，你承认你吃过转基因食品。

再问你一句，你可以把“还在试验阶段的黄金大米”的试验目标告诉大家吗？科学家们难道是在试验它的毒性和安全性吗，还是在试验它的营养效果？

是给转基因产品的应用找数据。 你真的认为中国人缺乏维生素A吗？ 被实验的小孩缺乏维生素A吗，需要补充胡萝卜素吗？

 

[冷笑9声]

鸡饲料，猪饲料。

想必九声是佛家人士。 是故意不理荤腥，还是确有不知呢？

澳。。。明白了，幸亏我不直接吃鸡饲料，猪饲料。 听说若鸡、猪有什么疾病煮熟就行了。

老闹子吓了我一跳。

 

[冷笑9声]

所以和二战的细菌战确实很有可比性。 您还得再多歪着想啊？

咳，我原来也是你这么想的， 老华侨以前说过我没听懂，你基因技术已经落后又没有基因防御手段，啥不得防着啊？本质是技术落后 以前什么网络战争、金融战争，啥不是半现实啊？ 我原来在国内，设计图纸，早年宁可用人出差送到千里之外也不能用猫等。 你就听着乐乐，跟你们海外老九们讲的，真不是一个层面的东西。

那个转基因稻米俺看了，什么维生素A、胡萝卜素。。。看得见的效果是省去农药钱。

 

[冷笑9声]

这好像跟你前面的逻辑有点不同了。 是说吃黄金大米的鸡做实验你就相对放心么？

当然， 研究人员从来没指望有些人会支持来做实验的， 对吧。

你可能不承认，俺觉得直接和间接吃转基因产品之间，在北美还是一道鸿沟。 鸡猪吃转基因饲料和渥太华人们吃不吃是两码事吧？

我说错什么了? 错了可以改，因为我不是神。。

 

[mimi_ge]

九哥，看来上次方教授说的“北美人每天都吃转基因”是真有人信了。而且是彻头彻尾的笃信。

我是不信的，上次写了封信给fda，还没人給我回信，这customer service太差了。

 

[冷笑十二声]

九哥，看来上次方教授说的“北美人每天都吃转基因”是真有人信了。而且是彻头彻尾的笃信。

我是不信的，上次写了封信给fda，还没人給我回信，这customer service太差了。

这问题人根本不屑回答, 因为你天天吃.

 

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[老闹子]

有点乱，你是说我们天天吃黄金大米？ 我倒是听说过食用油有的用专基因玉米作的，不敢买。。。还有啥阿？

附件：加拿大已经批准的转基因食品名单

Novel Food Decisions1

Novel Food Decisions

Product
Proponent
Decision Date

Phytosterols 95% (a phytosterol product for use in foods)
Naturex, France
April 27, 2011

Insect Resistant Cotton (COT102)
Sygenta Seeds Inc.
April 13, 2011

President's Choice Blue Menu Yogurt Shot with Plant Sterols
Mixed Berry - 4×93 ml multipack
Strawberry - 4×93 ml multipack
Parmalat Canada
January 26, 2011

Drought Tolerant Corn MON 87460
Monsanto Canada Inc.
January 20, 2011

Drinkable Yogurt Product (90 ml) Astro Biobest - Plant Stérols Végétaux
Parmalat Canada
December 8, 2010

OSE-95 (a phytosterol product for use in foods)
Organic Technologies, USA
November 10, 2010

Use of Multiple-cycle High Pressure Processing (HPP) Treatment of Ready To Eat (RTE) Meat and Poultry Products
Gridpath Solutions Inc.
October 27, 2010

Arboris®
Arboris® Sterol AS-2®
Arboris® Sterol esters
Arboris LLC, USA
October 27, 2010

OS-95 (a phytosterol product for use in foods)
Organic Technologies, USA
September 29, 2010

Yogurt Product with added Phytosterols (Eating Right Yogurt)
Canada Safeway Limited
September 29, 2010

Vegapure®
Vegapure® 867 G
Vegapure® 95R
Vegapure® 67 WDP E
Vegapure® F40 WDP E
Vegapure® M
Cognis Corporation
August 25, 2010

Yogurt Product with added Phytosterols (Danacol)
Danone Inc.
July 28, 2010

NH Margarine
Western Family NH Margarine with Plant Sterols
Co-Op Gold NH Margarine with Plant Sterols
PC Blue Menu NH Margarine with Plant Sterols
Eating Right NH Margarine with Plant Sterols
Canola Harvest NH Margarine with Plant Sterols
Richardson Oilseed Limited
July 28, 2010

Yogurt Product (100 g) Astro Biobest - Plant Stérols Végétaux
Parmalat Canada
July 28, 2010

CardioAidR
CardioAidR PSD
CardioAidR XF
CardioAidR IP
CardioAidR T
CardioAidR XF EU
CardioAidR SF
CardioAidR S
CardioAidR SWD
CardioAidR WB
Archer Daniels Midland Company
May 14, 2010

Yellow fat spreads with added phytosterols
Unilever Canada Inc.
May 14, 2010

Fruit and vegetable juice products with added phytosterols
A. Lassonde Inc.
May 14, 2010

Corowise™:

Corowise™ PS-100
Corowise™ FP-100
Corowise™ FP-300
Corowise™ FP-400
Corowise™ PSD-100
Corowise™ ES-200
Corowise™ SE-C 100
Corowise™ WDSE-33
Corowise™ Tall oil phytosterols
Corowise™ FP-100E
Corowise™ FP-300E
Corowise™ PSD-100E
Corowise™ SE-C102E
Cargill Inc
May 14, 2010

Orange juice products with added phytosterols
Coca-Cola Ltd
May 14, 2010

VegapureR:

VegapureRFS
VegapureR95FF, 95E and 95ER
VegapureR67WDP
VegapureRF 90 ME
Cognis Corporation
May 14, 2010

Herbicide Tolerant Sunflower H4
BASF Canada Inc.
May 3, 2010

Martek DHA-S and Martek HM for use in infant foods
Martek Biosciences Corporation
April 7, 2010

Insect Protected Corn Line MIR162
Syngenta Seeds Canada Inc.
March 24, 2010

Camelina Oil
Canpressco
January 7, 2010

Isomalto-oligosaccharides (Vitasugar ™)
Bioneutra
December 22, 2009

Glyphosate Tolerant Soybean event 356043
Pioneer Hi-Bred International
2009/09/23

Glyphosate Tolerant Corn event 98140
Pioneer Hi-Bred International
2009/09/23

High Oleic Soybean
Pioneer Hi-Bred International
2009/05/06

Betapol ™
Lipid Nutrition BV
2008/09/19

Enhanced Stearate Soybean
Monsanto Canada
2008/08/07

Insect Protected Corn Line MON 89034
Monsanto Canada
2008/05/18

Clearfield™ canola quality Brassica juncea S006
BASF Canada Inc.
2008/05/08

Papaya Drink containing Lutein
Rubicon Food Products Ltd.
2008/03/28

Break Free Omega Pro liquid eggs containing Lutein
Burnbrae Farms Ltd.
2008/03/28

Omega Pro shell eggs containing Lutein
Burnbrae Farms Ltd.
2008/03/28

Alpha Amylase Corn Event 3272
Syngenta Seeds Canada Inc.
2008/03/13

Glytol™ Cotton Event GHB614
Bayer CropScience Canada Co.
2008/03/13

ExpressSun™ Sunflower SU7
Pioneer Hi-Bred International
2008/01/03

Lutein and Zeaxanthin enhanced Eggs
L.H. Gray & Son Limited
2007/11/26

Chicken Eggs Enriched by Dietary Means in Lutein
Maple Leaf Foods Agresearch, SHUR-GAIN
2007/09/21

Maize lines containing event MIR604
Syngenta Seeds Canada Inc.
2007/07/04

Glyphosate Tolerant Soybean MON 89788
Monsanto Canada Inc.
2007/06/27

TUSC 1 Corn
Pioneer Hi-Bred International
2007/03/22

Clearfield Bread Wheat Variety BW7
BASF Canada Inc.
2007/02/27

Use of Ultra High Pressure to process Meat-containing entrees, Meat-containing salads and meat products
Maple Leaf Consumer Foods
2006/12/13

Juice with Added FloraGLO® Crystalline Lutein
A. Lassonde Inc
2006/12/12

Clearfield Rice Varieties CL IMINTA 1 and CL IMINTA 4
BASF Canada Inc.
2006/11/16

Clearfield Durum Wheat varieties DW1 and DW12
BASF Canada Inc.
2006/11/16

Wine derived from the Wine Yeast ECMo01
First Venture Technologies Corporation
2006/11/16

Use of High Hydrostatic Pressure for the Control of Listeria monocytogenes in Ready to Eat (RTE) Meats and Poultry.
Santa Marie Foods Ltd.
2006/10/26

Low Linolenic Soybean
Pioneer Hi-Bred International
2006/10/05

Rinse and Chill Technology™
MPSC Inc.
2006/10/05

Wine derived from the Wine Yeast Saccharomyces cerevisiae ML01
Dr. van Vuuren, University of British Columbia
2006/07/12

High Lysine Maize (LY038)
Monsanto Canada Inc.
2006/07/12

Insect Resistant, Glufosinate Tolerant Maize event TC6275
Dow AgroSciences Canada Inc..
2006/06/28

Clearfield Bread Wheat Varieties BW255-2 and BW238-3
BASF Canada Inc.
2006/06/07

Glufosinate tolerant Rice event LLRice62
Bayer CropScience Canada Co.
2006/06/07

Microencapsulated Bonito Fish Oil
Ocean Nutrition
2006/06/01

DHASCO oil as a novel source of docosahexanoic acid (DHA) in foods
Martek
2006/06/01

Juices containing Fish Oil
A. Lassonde
2006/06/01

Insect Resistant Glyphosate tolerant Maize event MON 88017
Monsanto Canada Inc.
2006/02/17

Admixture of the Concentrated Fermented Whey Nutractis™ to Butter, Cheese Spread and Whipped Cream
Technologie Biolactis
2006/01/11

Cry34/35Ab1 Insect Resistant, Glufosinate Tolerant Corn Event DAS-51922-7
Dow Agrosciences Canada Inc.
2005/11/18

Glyphosate Tolerant Cotton MON 88913
Monsanto Canada Inc.
2005/11/16

Clearfield™ Sunflower line X81359
BASF Canada
2005/10/25

Glyphosate tolerant Sugarbeet (Event H7-1)
Monsanto Canada Inc.
2005/08/31

Cry1F Insect Resistant Cotton, Event 281-24-236
Dow AgroSciences
2005/07/29

Cry1Ac Insect Resistant Cotton, Event 3006-210-23
Dow AgroSciences
2005/07/29

Glyphosate tolerant alfalfa, J101 and J163
Monsanto Canada Inc.
2005/07/28

Trehalose
Cargill, Inc. and Hayashibara International, Inc.
2005/06/30

High Hydrostatic Pressure Treated Applesauce and Applesauce/Fruit Blends
Leahy Orchards Inc.
2004/11/18

Vegetable diacylglycerol oil
Archer Daniels Midland/ Kao Corporation
2004/09/10

Glufosinate tolerant cotton derived from transformation event LL25
Bayer CropScience
2004/09/03

ClearfieldT Imidazolinone tolerant wheat (Teal 11A)
BASF Canada
2004/06/25

ClearfieldT Imidazolinone tolerant lentil (RH44)
BASF Canada
2004/06/25

Omega-3 enhanced pork and products derived therefrom
Les petite fermes du Centaure Inc.
2004/05/10

Microencapsulated Fish Oil
Ocean Nutrition Canada, Ltd.
2004/04/26

Milk with docosahexanoic acid (DHA) obtained through the use of a DHA-rich feed additive and dairy products derived from this milk
Food Systems Innovation
2003/12/22

Imidazolinone Tolerant Clearfield™ Wheat (AP205CL)
BASF Canada
2003/11/14

Apple Cider and juice treated with UV light using CiderSure 3500
Moore Orchards
2003/07/15

Insect resistant cotton- Bollgard® event 15985
Monsanto Canada Inc.
2003/06/27

NuSun™ Mid-Oleic Sunflower Oil
Archer Daniels Midland Company
2003/05/27

Clearfield™ Sunflower oil line X81359
BASF Canada
2003/04/03

Imidazolinone Tolerant Clearfield™ Wheat (AP602CL)
BASF Canada
2003/03/21

Insect Resistant Corn (Cry3Bb1) Event MON 863
Monsanto Canada Inc.
2003/03/03

SUN-TGA40s as a source of arachidonic acid in infant formulas
Suntory Limited
2003/01/23

Virus resistant papaya Line 55
Papaya Administrative Committee
2003/01/10

Imidazolinone Tolerant (Clearfield) PWC16 Rice
BASF Canada
2003/01/10

Cry1F insect resistant, glufosinate tolerant corn line 1507
Dow AgroSciences
2002/10/11

DHASCO ® and ARASCO® oils as sources of docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) and arachidonic acid (ARA) in human milk substitutes
Martek Biosciences Corporation
2002/10/07

Imidazolinone tolerant rice lines CL121, CL141, and CFX51 (Clearfield™ rice)
BASF Canada Inc.
2002/02/11

Canola quality Brassica juncea lines PC97-03, PC98-44, and PC98-045
Canola Council of Canada
2001/10/29

Glyphosate tolerant corn line 603
Monsanto Canada
2001/02/19

Glufosinate ammonium tolerant sugarbeet event T120-7
Aventis CropScience Canada
2000/11/20

Glufosinate ammonium tolerant soybean lines A5547-127 and A2704-12
Aventis CropScience Canada
2000/11/20

Low linolenic soybean line OT96-15
Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada
2000/10/17

Insect resistant tomato (Bt tomato line 5345)
Monsanto Canada Inc.
2000/10/02

High oleic soybean lines G94-1, G94-19, and G168
DuPont Canada Inc.
2000/10/02

Imidazolinone tolerant (IT) wheat (SWP 965001)
Cyanamid Crop Protection
1999/11/12

Glyphosate tolerant corn (GA21)
Monsanto Canada Inc.
1999/05/13

Insect and virus resistant potato (NewLeaf Plus)
Monsanto Canada Inc.
1999/05/07

Insect and virus resistant potato (NewLeaf Y)
Monsanto Canada Inc.
1999/05/07

Genetically Improved Insect Resistant and Bromoxynil Tolerant (BXN plus BT) Cotton
Monsanto Canada Inc.
1998/12/14

Imidazolinone Tolerant Corn (Mutation of AHAS Enzyme)
Pioneer Hi-Bred International
1998/06/08

Virus resistant squash ZW20
Seminis Vegetable Seeds, Inc.
1998/04/16

Virus resistant squash CZW3
Seminis Vegetable Seeds, Inc.
1998/04/16

Sulfonylurea tolerant flax - CDC Triffid
Crop Development Centre, University of Saskatchewan
1998/02/16

Glyphosate tolerant canola (GT200)
Monsanto Canada
1997/09/12

Insect resistant and glyphosate tolerant corn (MON 802)
Monsanto Canada
1997/09/12

Glyphosate tolerant corn (MON 832)
Monsanto Canada
1997/09/12

Hybridization system in corn based on male sterility (MS3)
Plant Genetic Systems (Canada)
1997/07/08

Bromoxynil tolerant canola (Westar-Oxy-235)
Rhône-Poulenc Agriculture
1997/07/08

Imazethapyr tolerant corn (exp1910IT)
Zeneca Seeds
1997/07/08

Glufosinate ammonium tolerant corn Transformation events T14 and T25
AgrEvo Canada
1997/04/03

Insect resistant and glufosinate tolerant corn (DBT 418)
DEKALB Genetics Corporation
1997/04/03

New hybridization system (male sterility) in oilseed rape (canola) - MS8
Plant Genetic Systems (Canada)
1997/03/12

Glufosinate ammonium tolerant canola Transformation event T45
AgrEvo Canada
1997/02/17

Insect resistant corn (MON 810)
Monsanto Canada
1997/02/17

Sethoxydim tolerant corn (DK412SR and DK404SR)
BASF Canada
1997/02/14

Insect resistant corn (MON 809)
Pioneer Hi-Bred International
1996/12/19

Glyphosate tolerant cotton (line 1445)
Monsanto Canada
1996/12/19

Glufosinate tolerant corn (DLL25)
DEKALB Gentics Corporation
1996/12/19

Colorado Potato Beetle resistant potato (Atlantic and Superior varieties) lines ATBT04-6, ATBT04-27, ATBT04-30, ATBT04-31, ATBT04-36, SPBT02-5, SPBT02-7
Monsanto Canada
1996/11/08

Insect-resistant cotton (line 757)
Monsanto Canada
1996/11/08

Cotton resistant to bromoxynil (BXN)
Calgene
1996/08/16

Insect-resistant corn (BT 11)
Northrup King Co.
1996/08/15

High oleic acid/Low linolenic acid canola (lines 45A37, 46A 40)
Pioneer Hi-Bred International
1996/08/15

Processing tomatoes exhibiting reduced pectin degradation (hybrids 1401F, H282F, 11013F, 7913F)
Zeneca Plant Science
1996/06/28

Glyphosate tolerant soybeans (GTS 40-3-2)
Monsanto Canada
1996/04/09

Insect-resistant cotton (line 531)
Monsanto Canada
1996/04/09

Canola with significant quantities of laurate and myristate (lines 23-198, 23-18-17)
Calgene
1996/04/09

Insect-resistant corn (line 176)
CIBA Seeds
1995/12/19

Delayed ripening tomato (line 1345-4)
DNA Plant Technology
1995/11/02

Colorado Potato Beetle resistant potato (lines BT06, BT10, BT12, BT16, BT17, BT18, BT23)
Monsanto Canada
1995/09/21

Fertility restorer line in a new hybridization system in oilseed rape (canola) RF2
Plant Genetic Systems
1995/08/17

Imidazolinone resistant canola (lines NS738, NS1471, NS1473)
Pioneer Hi-Bred International
1995/04/25

FLAVR SAVR™ tomato (delayed ripening)
Calgene
1995/02/17

Glufosinate ammonium tolerant canola (HCN92)
AgrEvo Canada
1995/02/16

Glyphosate tolerant canola (GT73)
Monsanto Canada
1994/11/21

New hybridization system (male sterility) in oilseed rape (canola) RF1
Plant Genetic Systems
1994/09/08

Imidazolinone resistant maize (3417R)
Pioneer Hi-Bred
1994/05/30 1994/05/301994/05/30