Why I Raise My Children Without God

[CHRIS88]

圣经中有关人祭的经文

撒母耳下中，清楚记载了一次七人祭，目的过程结果完整

A.人祭的目的：大卫年间有饥荒，一连三年。耶和华说：这饥荒是因扫罗和他流人血之家，杀死基遍人(21:1)

B.人祭的过程：基遍人就把他们在耶和华面前，悬挂在山上，这七人就一同死亡(21:9)。

C.人祭的结果：此后神垂听国民所求的(21:14)。

FR不知道在哪里抄来的滥竽，却要拿来冒充原装。这个东东，我老早以前就写过一段博文驳斥过了。

圣经鼓励杀人献祭？
http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_68521099010150sf.html

 

[ForwardRetreat]

One of my old friends, a former member of the clergy said something in not- so- distant past to this effect:

"Any remarks not in favor of the christian god and the bible taken or deducted from bible itself is to uniformly excused as " not the bible's true meaning" and people who make the remarks do not understand god regardless what the bible says literally. as a clergy, you are to preach that god exists and is always correct, only that can you never think god and the bible are flawed."

so i say i know what you are up to.

 

[rosehip]

是的，该准备回家了。周末愉快。


其实如果不是神汉神婆跑出他们的神屋到处cut/paste地胡扯，真没兴趣和神汉神婆玩这些。

侃哥，周末愉快。

 

[ForwardRetreat]

FR不知道在哪里抄来的滥竽，却要来冒充原装。这个东东，我老早以前就写过一段博文驳斥过了。

圣经鼓励人祭？
http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_68521099010150sf.html

Yes, that is what i said per your bible.

 

[CHRIS88]

Yes, that is what i said per your bible.

花一个周末，找点还没有被驳倒的新鲜货出来怎么样？

 

[ForwardRetreat]

哥们，还是算了吧。道理是和正常的人讲的。和几个已经走火入魔的宗教极端分子，咱们已经浪费了一下午时间了，没啥意思了。

大家看看基督教的野蛮一面也好。

 

[明的凡]

大家看看基督教的野蛮一面也好。

不怕让别人看出反基督教狂热分子的无耻？

 

[ForwardRetreat]

花一个周末，找点还没有被驳倒的新鲜货出来怎么样？

不用了，你这是在工作，我周末还要忙正事. 至于什么驳倒不驳倒, 没有什么意义. 基督教,和其他一神教一样, " 驳不倒" 是宗教信仰的要求.

大家没事翻阅到此贴大部分会用一个正常人的思维方式来看待的. 前面有一个有关这里基督徒对基督教看法的投票虽不是很科学,也展示了一些有趣的现象.

 

[ForwardRetreat]

不怕让别人看出反基督教狂热分子的无耻？

至少我没有诅咒基督徒个人. 基督教诅咒非信徒下地狱受难, 95%中国人可是要下地狱的.

 

[ForwardRetreat]

okay, that's it. gotta pack up and go now. have a good weekend! atheists, Buddhists, Islamist, Christians, or whatever you are.

 

[CHRIS88]

至少我没有诅咒基督徒个人. 基督教诅咒非信徒下地狱受难, 95%中国人可是要下地狱的.

基督徒没有诅咒任何人。我们只是相信主耶稣的救赎。老兄指控基督徒诅咒，是诬陷。

我们只是传播人类得救的大好福音, 即每个人，包括您本人，都有机会重新成为神的儿女， 神国圣洁的子民，神殿有君王尊严的祭司，都有机会获得来自神的宽恕、怜悯、恩慈、平安、喜乐；获得了神永远的丰盛和生命。基督徒要把这个好消息告诉每个人。

基督徒希望每个人都知道，无论他是无神论者、穆斯林、佛教徒、印度教徒、法轮功学员、还是拜撒旦教徒，无论他是富有还是贫穷、无论他是聪明还是愚笨、无论他在世人的眼里是成功还是失败、无论他是健康还是病弱、无论他是贵为美国总统还是正在监狱之中服刑，他都是一个具有神的形象，有尊严、有人权在神的面前同样宝贵的大写的人！是有神的看顾和怜悯，是神自创世以来一直在呼唤寻找、要救赎挽回的神所爱的人！

而您，因为受到来自西方的无神论的蛊惑，却一直在诅咒所有中国人都是和畜牲一样没有灵魂的行尸走肉，诅咒所有中国人都没有任何希望，诅咒所有中国人唯一的归属便是那虫蛀蛆咬腐烂肮脏永远黑暗的坟墓或者那熊熊的焚尸炉火！这，才是真正的咒诅。

 

[richard cz]

《圣经》的核心是“爱”。

看到了有些“有心人”出于偏见，用鸡蛋里挑骨头的心态对《圣经》截头去尾加以曲解，直到得出他们想要的结论。

 

[CHRIS88]

《圣经》的核心是“爱”。

看到了有些“有心人”出于偏见，用鸡蛋里挑骨头的心态对《圣经》截头去尾加以曲解，直到得出他们想要的结论。

”截头去尾加以曲解，直到得出他们想要的结论“， 这个观察非常准确。

 

[terry890]

Einstein’s “I don’t believe in God”

爱恩思坦的信（原件）
The key passages of the letter reads like this (translated from German):
... I read a great deal in the last days of your book, and thank you very much for sending it to me. What especially struck me about it was this. With regard to the factual attitude to life and to the human community we have a great deal in common.

... The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this. These subtilised interpretations are highly manifold according to their nature and have almost nothing to do with the original text. For me the Jewish religion like all other religions is an incarnation of the most childish superstitions. And the Jewish people to whom I gladly belong and with whose mentality I have a deep affinity have no different quality for me than all other people. As far as my experience goes, they are also no better than other human groups, although they are protected from the worst cancers by a lack of power. Otherwise I cannot see anything 'chosen' about them.

In general I find it painful that you claim a privileged position and try to defend it by two walls of pride, an external one as a man and an internal one as a Jew. As a man you claim, so to speak, a dispensation from causality otherwise accepted, as a Jew the privilege of monotheism. But a limited causality is no longer a causality at all, as our wonderful Spinoza recognized with all incision, probably as the first one. And the animistic interpretations of the religions of nature are in principle not annulled by monopolization. With such walls we can only attain a certain self-deception, but our moral efforts are not furthered by them. On the contrary.

Now that I have quite openly stated our differences in intellectual convictions it is still clear to me that we are quite close to each other in essential things, i.e; in our evaluations of human behavior. What separates us are only intellectual 'props' and 'rationalization' in Freud's language. Therefore I think that we would understand each other quite well if we talked about concrete things.

With friendly thanks and best wishes,
Yours, A. Einstein

very well found! thank you

 

[terry890]

okay, that's it. gotta pack up and go now. have a good weekend! atheists, Buddhists, Islamist, Christians, or whatever you are.

keep up with the good work ForwardRetreat. good argument.

CHRIS show me the evidence instead of stories.