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Vancouver housing data reveals Chinese connection
Iain Marlow - ASIA-PACIFIC CORRESPONDENT

The Globe and Mail

Published Friday, Aug. 22 2014, 5:00 AM EDT

Last updated Thursday, Aug. 21 2014, 7:17 PM EDT

One of the largest real estate companies in British Columbia says that more than one-third of all the single-family detached homes it sold last year went to people with ties to mainland China.


Macdonald Realty Ltd., which has over 1,000 agents and staff in B.C., said 33.5 per cent of the 531 single family homes sold by its Vancouver offices in 2013 went to people who the company said were a mix of recent immigrants and Canadian citizens.


Those buyers, the company added, tended to spend more money, too, with the average cost of a house sold to these clients topping $2-million, compared to $1.4-million on average overall.

The figures did not include Macdonald’s sales in suburban areas such as Richmond, Burnaby or North Vancouver.

“This is our snapshot of Vancouver,” says Dan Scarrow, vice-president of corporate strategy at Macdonald Realty.

The information is based on reports from the firm’s sales, anecdotes from its agents and Mr. Scarrow’s own experience working with mainland Chinese clients, and it’s a glimpse into the influence of mainland Chinese money on Vancouver’s real estate market, which is considered among the most expensive in North America.

Vancouver has been flooded in recent years by tens of thousands of investor-class immigrants from mainland China, who have seen the west coast city as a stable – and picturesque – place to park their capital in luxury property.

That has helped drive up the average price of a single-family home in Vancouver to around $1.2-million.

Mr. Scarrow, who noted the firm does not query buyers about immigration status, believes that investment flowing from mainland China into Vancouver real estate is a quantifiable phenomenon, but has not personally seen much of the more controversial type of buyer: Those from abroad who buy for investment purposes but never live in the city. “We still see very few pure investors from China who have no connection to Vancouver,” he says.

Getting a handle on foreign buyers is difficult and Macdonald’s survey is far from exact – though one major property developer in Richmond said “that sounds about right.” The federal government does not collect meaningful data on the number of foreign buyers purchasing Canadian real estate, leaving industry participants to debate the impact of foreign capital on the local market. And that debate has gotten heated recently, with some developers accusing others of racism and criticizing those who want to slap curbs on foreign investment. The issue is complicated by the fact that some of Vancouver’s ethnically Chinese Canadian citizens with ties to Hong Kong view newer immigrants from mainland China with a degree of suspicion, assuming their wealth might have been accumulated in part by proximity to China’s Communist Party, rather than in a free market with the rule of law like Hong Kong.

The lack of hard data has also complicated discussions about the city’s affordability crisis and fuelled a local cottage industry where analysts attempt to decipher the scope of foreign money by looking at things like electricity usage in downtown neighbourhoods where some suspect foreign buyers have bought condos in which they never live.

“People always say there are no stats. Well, here are the stats,” says Mr. Scarrow. “This is actual evidence.”

There have been some reports and statistics about the scale of foreign money in Vancouver real estate before, but few have been conclusive – and none have settled the debate. One Sotheby’s report based on a survey of its agents found that 40 per cent of the luxury properties it sold in Vancouver were to foreign buyers – but not all of them were from China. Many developers trying to downplay fears about Chinese investment cite a statistic showing that only 1 to 3 per cent of Vancouver real estate purchases are “foreign” buyers – but, as is the case with Macdonald’s sales, many more expensive homes are still sold to people based here but who have come, at some point, from mainland China. A 2011 study by Landcor Data showed that 74 per cent of luxury purchases in Richmond and Vancouver’s expensive west side were by buyers with mainland Chinese names.

Mr. Scarrow says his company is “indicative of the overall market,” since his firm has some real estate agents who target overseas Chinese buyers, but is also firmly oriented toward domestic sales, unlike other real estate firms that deliberately target Chinese buyers.

At the same time, Mr. Scarrow and Macdonald are so bullish on the potential for Chinese investment that he is spearheading the company’s efforts to open an office in China. “While there is very little data about foreign investors in Vancouver real estate, our own internal data is enough for us to commit to investing in a representative office in Shanghai,” said Mr. Scarrow, whose mother Lynn Hsu, who came from Taiwan in 1979, is the majority owner and president of Macdonald.

Others remain unconvinced – not about whether there is an influx of Chinese money, but whether the flow of foreign capital will continue unabated.

Richard Kurland, a Vancouver immigration lawyer who works with wealthy Chinese immigrants, believes Vancouver may see a slowdown in foreign investment. He said some wealthy Chinese buyers might get anxious and sell off second properties because of the current crackdown on corruption in China.

In meetings with top real estate agents earlier this year, Mr. Kurland predicted that luxury residential real estate could drop in value by as much as 25 per cent as foreign investment dips. As evidence, he points to July real estate figures that showed 106 homes for sale on the west side in the $3-million to $3.5-million price bracket, and just nine sales, compared to 73 active listings and seven sales during July of 2013.


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中共是最大输家 :evil:
 
中共是最大输家 :evil:
跟同学聊了聊,一帮人都瞄着温哥华呢。。。就是现在。
应该是中介营销的成功,那些人脑子里的概念是: 温哥华只有学区房贵,其他地区价格合理,远低于国内。
 
如果6月底7月初在温哥华或Toronto买房,已经赚钱了;
如果6月底7月初在Ottawa买房,已经被套了。
真是冰火两重天。
 
是否合理,是相对的。要选择自己满意的生活环境是要遵守社会秩序的
 
天朝V5,占领温哥华了!
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Vancouver housing data reveals Chinese connection

妮玛,这与你那天朝有鸟关系啊。
 
妮玛,这与你那天朝有鸟关系啊。
请村长速电国内: 人傻,钱多,速来...:tx::dx:

说错了..应该是.....人傻,房贱,速来
 
跟同学聊了聊,一帮人都瞄着温哥华呢。。。就是现在。
应该是中介营销的成功,那些人脑子里的概念是: 温哥华只有学区房贵,其他地区价格合理,远低于国内。
现在还来得及卖concept吗? - 天冷,人长寿。。

看看十年后喔村能平均1.2m吗?
 
现在还来得及卖concept吗? - 天冷,人长寿。。
看看十年后喔村能平均1.2m吗?
你教育局有认识人吗?:evil: 教育是产业啊。。。 坎屯那里有没有快废弃的中学? 包装一下。。。或者让ERT0000大佬把二妈赤中学扩建一下,每年国内招100人,头一年500万年收的门槛。:monster::monster: 你当校长,俺开校车。。
 
你教育局有认识人吗?:evil:我哈他 教育是产业啊。。。 坎屯那里有没有快废弃的中学? 包装一下。。。或者让ERT0000大佬把二妈赤中学扩建一下,每年国内招100人,头一年500万年收的门槛。:monster::monster: 你当校长,俺开校车。。
:zhichi:

我当见你特!:jiayou::p
 
你教育局有认识人吗?:evil:我哈他 教育是产业啊。。。 坎屯那里有没有快废弃的中学? 包装一下。。。或者让ERT0000大佬把二妈赤中学扩建一下,每年国内招100人,头一年500万年收的门槛。:monster::monster: 你当校长,俺开校车。。
听说Ashbury College一年去国内好几趟。。。

校址选石桥吧。。村长的语文;何叔的数学,胡叔的政治思想,老枪的camping体能训练。。

你开校车我看大门。。这学校听着就靠谱。。:zhichi:
 
:zhichi:

我当见你特!:jiayou::p
教师在CFC内部消化。。。 义工型吧。。 飞老的马列课,何叔教数学,村长把关英语,咪咪哥的音乐课,老向的生物化学,胡九叔的课外活动。。。校长的劳动课-挖坑灌水。 你传达室配枪给把把大门,防止黄主任们的魔爪。
 
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