说说政府工发不出薪水的事吧!

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  1. ccc

    ccc 难得糊涂 ID:6614 管理成员 VIP

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    :good::good:

    行家,就是不同。
     
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    The federal government has named the three companies that will compete to replace the failed Phoenix pay system.

    Since its introduction in 2016, Phoenix has caused serious problems for thousands of public servants across Canada who have been improperly paid.

    Last year, the government announced its plan to eventually scrap the multi-million dollar pay system, but only once a new and much improved technology is in place.

    On Wednesday, the government announced Ceridian, SAP and Workday will compete to provide that replacement. All three companies were on a short list of five vendors released last year.

    Ceridian is a Toronto-based pay systems specialist with offices across Canada, including Ottawa. German multinational SAP creates software to manage business operations that's already widely used in government. Workday, which delivers cloud applications, is headquartered in California but has offices in Canada and around the world.
     
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    此坛懂data base 的人很多,希望有研究的朋友说说。我先抛出几个问题:
    全自动发工资系统目前是个不可能完成的东西:
    1.要求百分之百正确。
    2.变化是常态,新变量不断须要加入。
    3.变量本身会随时间而发生不可预期的质变。
    4.加入的新变量或已有变量的质变要求与过去的旧变量完美对接。
    5.不仅工资data , 还要和其它相关databases 完美対接。
    我想IBM一开始会知道这是不可能的项目,但只是为了赚钱而已。
     
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    对于一个敢在town hall上拍着胸脯说my project absolutely no risks的二百五PM你能说啥?
     
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    我想PMs和上司们想要的那个东西是没人能做的出来的。这就牵扯到一个基本的东西:该项目的pm 们 和它们的上司们有基本的常识吗,有基本的相关知识吗,有基本的逻辑推理能力吗,能听进懂行人的建言吗? 这里坑怕不是requirement list 全不全的问题, 而是这些人拍脑袋想出那个东东没人能做出来。那么IBM 或其他人能否鼓捣出一个比以前的payment system 更好的多的多的东东呢? 答案是肯定的, 政府的现有人才就可以。关健是任何新系统需要强大的技术支持,这正是那些拍脑袋想事的pm们和上司们想要省略的。他们希望IBM 做一个东东是可以一劳永逸的不须什么复杂的强大的技术支持的。这样一个magic 东东是没人能做出来的,IBM 应该很清楚:没人能达到那个要求, 只是挣钱而已,反正面对的是一帮确乏基本头脑的PMs 和他们的上司们 。
     
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    做不到? 那全球几百个国家的政府咋发工资的? 加拿大政府人最多? 工资构成更复杂? 一个工资系统难道比银行和电信的系统更复杂? 不整点事出来钱咋进得了个人腰包呢
     
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    提出项目的人是谁,目的何在,哲学思想是什么?有没有政府内部专业人员的意见?有没有看到missionimpossible?

    正式启动项目的人是谁?目的何在,哲学思想是什么?有没有政府内部专业人员的意见?有没有看到missionimpossible?
     
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    我不认为做成这个软件系统是不可能的。
    应该不会比登月更复杂。
     
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    PipiMom 资深人士 ID:81783

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    现在问题是大部分人工资都多发了。这局面已经撑了一年多了。去年有人多发了一万多。还不能拒收。
     
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    估计已经乱了套了,还没留底。
     
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    发个工资还有哲学思想, 您想多了
     
  13. livingeverywhere

    livingeverywhere 一直在被删帖,还被不停的限制发言,发新帖立即被删。哈哈,等老板接到律师信就好玩了嘛 ID:82225

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    加拿大人民最闲暇,最好事,这么大的事不报道不炒作,何事炒作?
     
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    haha, centralized service

    What Are Centralized Services, Anyway?
    [​IMG] by Jesse Smith | Jan 27, 2011 | Blog, Business Babble | 0 comments

    This is a question that we hear a lot. Our prospects haven’t heard the term before and our existing clients need it redefined. It’s no surprise that these questions come up…. Centralized Services are nearly invisible. Like most things in IT, if they are working great then you will barely notice them.

    So, what are they?

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    Similar to the word ‘Cloud’, the term means different things to different people. Different companies have their own representations of Centralized Services and they all define them differently. You can’t simply Google it and expect to understand it, because the context will be different. But who cares about that? You’re reading this to find out how Smart Dolphins defines the term.



    The Simple Definition


    Centralized Service is a service which we provide to more than one customer (usually all of them) to ensure a fast, efficient, smooth and secure computing experience. These services happen behind the scenes, and are Centralized in that we can administer them across our entire customer base with a few clicks of the mouse.

    Here is an example, using antivirus. Smart Dolphins deploys one antivirus product, whenever possible, to all of our customers. It’s included with every single Smart Dolphins contract as part of the monthly fee. Our antivirus product (on your machines) receives all of its configuration settings from a computer at Smart Dolphins, and it also reports directly to a dashboard of ours whenever it finds a virus. If we want to schedule virus scans at 2am for our entire customer base, we can do so effortlessly. If a customer’s computer still gets infected with a virus, our central dashboard will tell us. This allows us to keep things consistent and it ensures that we can jump on problems quickly. We don’t have to ‘check’ for problems, because the problems come to us.

    For comparison, here is how de-Centralized antivirus would work. We would need to configure every single customer individually, probably by connecting to their network remotely and apply our configuration changes to each customer one at a time. We’d have a hard time being consistent, and we’d definitely have a harder time keeping on top of infected machines because we might not see the virus infections unless we went and looked for them.

    I’m not intending for this blog post to be a sale, but a few examples never hurt anyone, so here is a list of a few more Centralized Services that we provide to our customers.

    • Email Antispam and Email Backup
    • Antivirus
    • Offsite Backup
    • Windows Patch Management
    • Monitoring
    • Plus a few more.
    Of course, not every single customer fits into the same box and we make exceptions all the time, but we love our standardization and our customers get better service because of it!

    I hope this sheds some light into what is a seemingly black box for a lot of people. The next time you hear us touting how great our Centralized Services are, you’ll know what we’re talking about.
     
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