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    这次attack成功了,民主党扳回一局,但是与国家事物无关。小胜。如果不成功,民主党和麾下媒体,应该是nothing left了, 算是惨败。真心希望民主党和CNN能赢得这一局。
     
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    Watersportsgate 不论如何收场,都是美国民主党极左派和CNN的一个重要里程碑。
     
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    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...sing-material-on-president-elect-live-updates
    Also
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-holds-first-post-election-press-conference-live-updates/

    After a delay of almost a month, President-elect Donald Trump will outline the future of his business empire during a press conference at Trump Tower Wednesday morning -- his formal first press conference since winning the presidency in November.

    The president-elect is certain to be asked about reports Tuesday that the intelligence community’s classified report on Russian hacking had an addendum with unverified details of potentially compromising information that Russia has gathered on the president-elect, and that Mr. Trump was briefed on last week. Taking to Twitter Tuesday night and Wednesday morning, Mr. Trump called the reports “fake news” and said it is “utter nonsense.”

    The motivation for the news conference, though, was Mr. Trump’s announcement about how he would deal with the complex web of his business interests. Since his election, Mr. Trump has faced serious questions about who will handle his businesses while he’s in the White House -- and how to avoid the myriad conflicts of interest that could arise when a sitting president owns a business empire.

    12:19 a.m. ET Approximately an hour after the press conference started, Mr. Trump and his family have left the room.

    12:17 p.m. ET Mr. Trump ignored a question about whether any members of his campaign had had contact with Russian officials during the election season and turned again to the stacks of manila folders next to him.

    “These papers are all just a piece of the many, many companies that are being put into a trust to be run by my two sons,” he said. Mr. Trump continued that he hopes he will come back “at the end of eight years” to a company that has been well run, but that if not he will tell his sons “You’re fired.”

    12:16 p.m. ET What is Mr. Trump’s message to Russian President Vladimir Putin on the election-related hacking?

    “He shouldn’t be doing it, he won’t be doing it,” he said. “Russia will have much greater respect for our country when I’m leading it than when other people have led it. You will see that.”

    Mr. Trump repeated that “it’s not just Russia” that has been hacking U.S. entities.

    12:12 p.m. ET Asked again about the stories on Russia’s compromising information on him, Mr. Trump said the release of those reports is “disgraceful.”

    “That’s something that Nazi Germany would have done and did do,” he said, referencing his tweet Wednesday morning.

    Mr. Trump called BuzzFeed, which posted the intelligence memo about Russian information, “a failing pile of garbage,” and also criticized CNN for publicizing the reports on Tuesday.

    A CNN reporter in the audience attempted to ask a follow-up question, but Mr. Trump repeatedly shut him down.

    “No, not you, your organization is terrible. Quiet. Quiet,” he said. As the reporter continued trying to ask a question, talking over another reporter, Mr. Trump continued: “Don’t be rude. Don’t be rude. Don’t. Be. Rude. I’m not going to give you a question. You are fake news.”

    12:04 p.m. ET On a question about his proposed wall along the U.S.-Mexico border, Mr. Trump said Mexico will “reimburse” the U.S. for the wall because he doesn’t want to wait to build it until a deal can be made with Mexico.

    “I want to get the wall started,” he said. “I don’t want to wait a year and a half until I make my deal with Mexico.”

    As for the form that reimbursement will take, Mr. Trump said it’s more likely it will be through a “tax” than a “payment.”

    “They will reimburse us for the cost of the wall, whether it’s a tax or whether it’s a payment,” he said. “Probably less likely that it’s a payment.”

    12:00 p.m. ET Asked to discuss his administration’s plan for dealing with the Affordable Care Act, Mr. Trump declined to give any specifics but said, “We’re going to get health care taken care of in this country.”

    “Obamacare is a complete and total disaster,” he said, citing increased premiums and high deductibles. “...Frankly, we could sit back -- and it was a thought from a political standpoint -- but it wouldn’t be fair to the people.”

    11:58 a.m. ET Dillon said that in order to ensure that “it is the American people who will profit” going forward, Mr. Trump has directed that all profits from foreign government payments made to his hotels will be donated to the U.S. Treasury.”

    11:54 a.m. ET Additionally, Dillon said, a position will be created at the Trump Organization for a “chief compliance counsel,” who will help ensure there are no conflicts of interest.

    To people who suggest Mr. Trump should sell his business, Dillon said that would only “exacerbate” the possibility for conflicts.

    11:49 a.m. ET Mr. Trump turned the podium over to Sherri Dillon of Morgan Lewis, a lawyer who has been working on the plan for the Trump business empire.

    Dillon said Mr. Trump’s business holdings and investments will be put in a trust before Inauguration Day, and that his two adult sons will run the company. Ivanka Trump, whose husband Jared Kushner is set to become a senior adviser to the Trump White House, will have “no further management” role in the company.

    She also said there will be “no new foreign deals” made during the duration of Mr. Trump’s presidency, and that domestic deals will be subject to “severe restrictions.”

    11:43 a.m. ET Mr. Trump said his two sons, Eric and Donald Jr., will run the Trump Organization while he’s in office, and said the manila folders on the table next to him were “some of the many documents I’ve signed turning over complete and total control.”

    Still, Mr. Trump asserted that he would have been able to continue running his business from the White House if he wanted to.

    “I could actually run my business ... and run government at the same time,” he said. “I don’t like the way that looks but I’d be able to if I wanted to.”

    11:40 a.m. ET Asked to confirm that some of the allegations that Russia has compromising information about his controversial activities while in Russia are false, Mr. Trump replied: “Does anyone really believe that story? I’m also very much of a germaphobe, by the way, believe me.”

    He also reaffirmed what he posted on Twitter Wednesday morning, stating that he has no conflicts of interest with Russia.

    “I tweeted out that I have no dealings with Russia, I have no deals in Russia, I have no deals that could happen with Russia because we’ve stayed away, and I have no loans,” he said.

    11:37 a.m. ET What will Mr. Trump’s stance be toward Vladimir Putin once he takes office? Mr. Trump said he considers Putin’s praise of him to be an “asset,” but said he doesn’t yet know that he’ll “get along” with Putin.

    “If Putin likes Donald Trump I consider that an asset not a liability because we have a horrible relationship with Russia,” he said.

    “Now I don’t know that I’m going to get along with Vladimir Putin,” he said. “I hope I do, but … do you honestly believe that Hillary [Clinton] will be tougher on Putin than me?”

    11:33 a.m. ET Asked whether he accepts the intelligence agencies’ conclusion that Russia actively worked to influence the 2016 election, Mr. Trump said he believes Russia was responsible for the hacking -- but stopped short of saying he believed they had an influence on the campaign and its outcome.

    “As far as hacking, I think it was Russian,” he said. “But I think we also get hacked by other countries and other people and I can say that when we lost 22 million names and everything else that was hacked recently, they didn’t make a big deal out of that, that was something that was extraordinary.”

    He also blamed Democratic National Committee for getting hacked, saying the committee “was totally open to be hacked, they did a very poor job.”

    11:29 a.m. ET Mr. Trump’s first question was about Russia -- both on the spate of stories yesterday about potentially compromising information as well as the intelligence briefing on Russian hacking he received on Friday.

    Mr. Trump said he’s not allowed to discuss information that was presented during his intelligence briefing -- but confirmed he did in fact see the memo in question on compromising information, calling it a “disgrace.”

    “I saw the information, I read the information outside of that meeting its all fake news, it’s phony stuff, it didn’t happen and it was gotten by opponents of ours,” he said. “It was a group of opponents who got together, sick people, and they put that crap together.”

    11:23 a.m. ET Next, Mr. Trump took the podium, beginning by saying he used to give press conferences on an “almost daily basis” during the campaign. (This is not true -- he did give press conferences during the campaign, but not nearly that frequently.)

    He thanked news organizations that did not run stories on Russia’s alleged compromising information about him.

    “I want to thank a lot of the news organizations, some of whom have not treated me well over the years, a couple in particular, and they came out so strongly against that fake news,” he said. “I have great respect for the news, I have great respect for freedom of the press and all of that, but I will tell you there were some news organizations … that were so professional, so incredibly professional.”

    He also intimated that the stories may have come from intelligence agency leaks -- and said it would be “a tremendous blot on their record if they did that.”

    11:20 a.m. ET Vice President-elect Mike Pence also briefly spoke about the Russia stories, decrying “the irresponsible decision of a few news organizations to run with a false and unsubstantiated report.”

    11:16 a.m. ET Incoming White House press secretary Sean Spicer took the podium first, calling the stories about unverified reports saying Russia has compromising information about Mr. Trump “highly salacious” and “flat-out false.”

    He denied that three individuals associated with Mr. Trump’s campaign were ever in touch with Russian officials.

    “For all the take lately about fake news this political witch-hunt by some in the media is based on some of the most flimsy reporting,” he said.

    11:13 a.m. ET President-elect Donald Trump has entered the room.

    11:04 a.m. ET At around 11 a.m., when the presser was expected to start, staffers began bringing out stacks of manila folders and putting them on a table next to the podium at Trump Tower. It’s unclear what the contents of the folders might be.

    Live at 11 a.m. ET: Donald Trump’s news conference on CBSN
    10:30 a.m. ET Wednesday’s presser, expected at 11 a.m. ET, comes just nine days before Mr. Trump is inaugurated.

    This is not the first time Mr. Trump has scheduled a press conference to address the future of his business empire. A press conference was previously scheduled for Dec. 15, almost a month before this new date, but Mr. Trump canceled that press conference three days beforehand, saying his team needed more time to sort out the details.

    Before Wednesday, Mr. Trump has taken a handful of questions from reporters at gaggles but has not held full news conferences. It will be his first full news conference since July 27.

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    床铺真是身经百战, 太牛了,
     
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    看起来是不成功?
    不过没关系,还是有人会把CNN当环球时报 :evil:
     
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    看到抱哥贴得新闻,这要是做实了,CNN最好宣布破产了事。珍贵的水上运动门难道就此告终?那这件事,民主党和CNN真的是损人不利己。
    等着看下文了。


    一则假新闻是如何骗过了CIA让媒体和全世界都high了一把的

    最近几天,一则爆炸性的新闻在全世界疯狂转载,新闻的主要内容是美国四大情报机构给奥巴马提供的一份35页纸的情报总汇,里面说俄国掌握了Trump的一些丑闻。35页的报告中最惹人注意的,也是被各家媒体津津乐道的,是说Trump在2013年访问莫斯科时,下榻于Ritz Carlton Hotel的总套套房里。当得知奥巴马曾加也下榻于同一旅馆的总统套房时,Trump找了几个妓女来,让妓女们在奥巴马睡过的床上来了个“Gloden Shower” (撒尿)。

    这则消息一出,Trump的反对派,各家媒体,美国的精英们和全世界人们都笑翻了。Trump本来给人的印象就是有钱的花花公子,做事也特立独行,不拘小节,这件事太符合人们印象里的Trump了。何况是四大情报机构联合的报告,怎么能让人怀疑呢?

    但是这个消息的真相是怎么回事儿?

    这则爆炸性丑闻“消息”来自于一个网络上一个叫4chan的谁都可以发贴的网站,有几个吃瓜的愤青,大概其中也有个文艺青年,为了搞笑,脑洞大开,编了这么一个故事,贴在网站上。他们知道这个故事没人会当真,如果自己递给CIA,也不会有人信,于是就玩了个迂回路线,把这个假故事递给了一个著名的反对Trump的叫Rick Wilson的人。这位苦于寻找Trump毛病的老兄不知是真傻还是假傻,就把这个搞笑的故事直接递给了CIA,还散发给了许多反Trump的人和组织。然后英国的一位前情报官,拿了人钱要收集Trump跟俄国有关系的情报,大概也是苦于找不到合适的情报,也把这个故事写进了自己的情报里。

    这个故事太好玩了,一传十,十传百,不胫而走,还传到了曾经在2008年跟奥巴马在总统选举中对垒过的John McCain参议员手里。John McCain是个老滑头,看见这则消息后,估计自己也不信,但是不动声色地转给了FBI,背后踹了Trump一脚。美国的四大情报机构大概都从不同的渠道得到了这个消息,于是互相印证,搞笑的故事变成了让人信服的故事,把这个令人可笑的故事当作货真价实的秘密情报,写进了35页的秘密报道,递交给了奥巴马。

    最终,这份儿美国四大情报机构的35页的秘密报告由Buzefeed捅出来,通过CNN和其他媒体的报道传遍全世界,让全世界人们都欢乐了一把。



    4chand的这几个吃瓜的愤青/文青看到自己搞笑的故事真的进了美国情报机构的绝密报告,把CIA那些人都给瞒过了,简直乐翻了。欢乐之余,这几个哥们儿大概觉得心里也有些不安。我靠,哥儿几个这事儿做得也太过了,于是在网站上贴出了一个声明,把事情的来龙去脉大致给讲了一下:原文可以参考这里:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald...you_never_verify_anything_because_youre_fake/

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-10/4chan-claims-have-fabricated-anti-trump-report-hoax

    这几个吃瓜的愤青/文青说:

    >/pol/acks mailed fanfiction to anti-trump pundit Rick Wilson about trump making people piss on a bed obama slept in

    >he thought it was real and gave it to the CIA

    >the central intelligence agency of the united states of america put this in their official classified intelligence report on russian involvement in the election

    >donald trump and obama have both read this pol/acks fanfiction

    >the cia has concluded that the russian plans to blackmail trump with this story we made up

    大致说来,这几位承认自己就是编了个搞笑的故事,邮给了Rick Wilson,Rick Wilson给了CIA,CIA信以为真,放进了官方的秘密报告。



    有点儿脑子的吃瓜群众们其实应该能看出来,这个故事太荒谬了。何况,Trump是个商人, 2013年去莫斯科访问时,那时还没有参与竞选总统,对奥巴马根本没有什么恶感,不至于找妓女来,让她们在奥巴马睡过的床上撒尿。

    当然,Trump对这件事很恼火。他骂CNN的人说:your organization is terrible. You are fake news。

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-...fake-news-calls-buzzfeed-failing-pile-garbage

    今早,Trump 在推特上对CNN发飙说:

    @CNN is in a total meltdown with their FAKE NEWS because their ratings are tanking since election and their credibility will soon be gone!



    记得是戈培尔还是谁说过, “If you lie, lie big”,这次事件又一次印证了,只要你敢撒谎,只要谎敢撒得足够大,就会有人敢信。这个搞笑故事就是在小说里,一般人也不敢这么编,但是现实永远比小说精彩,还真有人就这么编了,还真有人信了,而且是美国的四大情报机构,加上全世界的媒体和无数的吃瓜群众。
     

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