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After a spectacular defeat, the soul-searching begins for Ontario Liberals
The Grits won only 7 ridings and earned less than 20% of the popular vote
Nick Boisvert · CBC News · Posted: Jun 10, 2018 6:00 AM ET | Last Updated: 4 hours ago

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Former premier Kathleen Wynne resigned as leader of the Liberal party Thursday night. (Francis Ferland/CBC)
After suffering a spectacular rebuke from voters in Thursday's election, Ontario's Liberals must now face the daunting task of rebuilding their party against steep odds.

With just seven seats, the Grits may no longer have official party status at the Legislature. They are also without a leader after the embattled former premier Kathleen Wynne announced she was stepping down late Thursday.

Party insiders and analysts agree that to recover, regroup and crawl out of Ontario's political wilderness, the Liberals will need to make drastic changes nearly across the board.

The soul-searching could include shifts in the party's policies, messaging and even ideology.

Party must 'tremendously change' approach
While Liberal support appeared to crater during the election campaign, Sandra Pupatello, who lost to Wynne in the 2013 leadership race, says the party began losing voters long before June 7.

She believes the Liberals must now "have a serious look at where they are, who they are and what they have historically been."

To the centrist-leaning Pupatello, that means a shift away from the left-leaning policies and spending plans endorsed by the Liberals in recent years.

The Liberal election platform included promises for expanded pharmacare and free preschool childcare, alongside years of deficit spending.


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Sandra Pupatello, right, congratulates Katheen Wynne during the Liberal leadership convention in 2013. (Frank Gunn/Canadian Press)
"I actually believe they have to tremendously change their approach," Pupatello told CBC Toronto.

Pupatello says the Liberals simultaneously alienated their base while giving more progressive supporters a strong incentive to vote for Andrea Horwath's NDP.

"If you're trying to be a different party, people will vote for the real thing," she said, adding that the electorate's "inexplicable" dislike for Wynne was also a major factor into Thursday's result.

Meanwhile, Liberal insiders are spinning the historic loss as an opportunity to reconnect with Ontarians and reshape the party based on their feedback.

"I'm hopeful to see a fresh look and I think that'll be a very powerful contrast to the Ford government," said Liberal strategist Tiffany Gooch.


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'We’ll need to see more torches passed to young activists and organizers,' said Liberal strategist Tiffany Gooch. (Supplied)
Is there still room in the middle?
Others say the state of politics in 2018 leaves little room for a successful centrist approach.

"That logic, that wisdom is now dead," said Andray Domise, a contributing editor at Maclean's and a Toronto community activist. "It's over."

To Domise, Thursday's results reflect a growing trend in western democracies around the world, where right-leaning, populist governments are experiencing a surge in popularity.

"That can't be dealt with with facts and logic and decorum," Domise said. "That's been absent for a very long time."


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Andray Domise, who once ran against Rob Ford in a municipal election, says a centrist approach can no longer succeed in Ontario politics. (Andray Domise for Toronto City Council - Ward 2/Facebook)
Instead, Domise is calling on self-styled progressive parties to take a new, more aggressive approach while also considering the needs of their supporters.

That includes nominating local activists and organizers who better understand their communities and don't resemble the traditional status quo.

"Groom them and bring them up to be part of a future Liberal party rather than continuously dipping into the well of MBAs and lawyers who have progressive leanings," Domise said.

The next time Ontario votes in 2022, Gooch says she too wants to see more grassroots activists on the ballot.

The party, however, seems poised to slide back into its traditional space between the Progressive Conservatives and NDP.

"This pendulum swinging of extremes is a difficult way to build a province," Gooch said. "The Liberals, in that centre space, need to be the balanced approach."
 
这才是真正的自由党精英。

向左发展activist年轻一代。10年以后再看。这个比较容易一些

向中间区域,寻找pc无法占据的区域。这个难。左派政党很少能够向中间回归的。需要彻底的解体。
 
还继续向左显然是没有前途了。超越ndp后,cbc的象限图都没地儿给自由党了。

回归理性回归中间,是为维一选项
 
social progressive + financial conservative 是加国最合理的政治路线。
反映在政治上,联邦 social progressive 赢面大,省级必须 financial conservative 才能运转的好。
联邦自由党 + 安省保守党 通常是很好的组合
 
social progressive + financial conservative 是加国最合理的政治路线。
反映在政治上,联邦 social progressive 赢面大,省级必须 financial conservative 才能运转的好。
联邦自由党 + 安省保守党 通常是很好的组合

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自由党联邦推出假死挺土豆。导致民间选他的纷纷后悔,外加国际大势。

联邦估计也是右转。
两级自由党实际上都需要疗伤。
 
联邦政党轮替当然是迟早的事情。就象说钟摆到了左边以后会象右摆,这废话和没说一样。选举政治的特点就是 elect / regret 。 一个政党从当选起,支持率就进入长期下降通道。土豆的民间反对率上升数度,和保守党政策于人事整合,这两方面决定了轮替的迟早。按现在的民调,如果立即大选,土豆很可能搞出一个少数政府。

自由党联邦推出假死挺土豆。导致民间选他的纷纷后悔,外加国际大势。
联邦估计也是右转。 两级自由党实际上都需要疗伤。
 
我是自由党死忠,给联邦出主意,现再吸取教训,立即大幅右转。下一届还有戏。换一个洋葱当头也是必须的
 
这位 Sandra Pupatello 相信也不是好人,输了,立即给主席一刀,說她的不是!大家记住这人,千万不要选她,譲她有机会執政,我覺得她說过的話一定不算数的。
 
剛去這個說「中間沒市場」的 Andray Domise 推特看了下。旗幟鮮明的社會正義戰士。
我怎麼覺得自由黨輸掉就是因為他們法西斯...
中華儒家文化有一句「極高明而道中庸」,已經進入潛意識了吧。西洋好像沒這個東西?
 
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