重磅新闻BREAKING NEWS:滑大招生评估高中成绩水分的名单被媒体披露了

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  2. 在这名单中平均偏差数值越低的, 中学成绩认可程度越高。

    Bell High 10.4
    Earl of March SS 10.5
    ALL SAINT HH 10.5
    NEPEAN HIGH 10.7
    COLONEL BY SS 11.7
    LISGAR 12.4

    https://globalnews.ca/news/4405495/waterloo-engineering-grade-inflation-list/

    One university’s secret list to judge applicants by their high schools – not just their marks
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    Rebecca Judd, now 19, found her first term at the University of Ottawa last fall a cold shock. Her Grimsby, Ont., high school could have done much more to prepare her, she says.

    “In high school, I definitely tried very hard for my marks, and I feel that sometimes I got the marks I deserved, but other times I did not try very hard at all, and still found that good marks were pretty effortless. In university, that is not how education works at all.”

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    Judd’s experience wouldn’t have been a surprise to the University of Waterloo’s engineering faculty, 500 kilometres down the highway.

    For decades, Waterloo has been using a list of which Ontario high schools’ marks matched the marks their graduates got in engineering school — and which didn’t.

    For admissions officers, it meant that they didn’t always have to take marks completely at face value. Universities don’t have much to go on, other than marks, when they made admission decisions, but the same mark from three different schools can mean three different things.

    A generation ago, Waterloo’s engineers realized the solution was right under their noses — in their own data.

    Waterloo could already tell what school inflated its marks by how much, by comparing the final high school marks students were admitted with to the marks at the end of first year. For schools whose graduates were admitted often enough to reach conclusions, that information could be used to help make future admissions decisions.

    So they made a list of which high schools’ graduates had small gaps — and which had large ones. They called the gap the “adjustment factor.” Armed with this information, admissions officers could deal with the next year’s crop of applicants more fairly.

    The existence of the list wasn’t a secret — but its contents were.

    And at the top of the list, three years running, was the worst offender: Grimsby Secondary School.

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    GSS graduates who ended up in engineering at Waterloo saw their marks drop over 27 per cent, as opposed to 16 per cent for an average Ontario high school not on the list. Some 45 high schools’ graduates had drops below 16 per cent —Toronto’s L’Amoreaux Collegiate Institute, for example, had a drop of just under 10 per cent.

    Waterloo’s list helps solve two problems that come from universities accepting high school marks uncritically.

    First, students with inflated marks risk being placed in programs they’re not prepared for. As well, the university risks being unfair to graduates of schools with more rigorous marking standards.

    “You’re not doing a student any favours if they get into university and aren’t well-prepared for the challenge,” says Greg Moran, who ran admissions for the University of Western Ontario in the 1990s. “They are going to suffer the failure and frustration that that involves.”

    Waterloo updates the list every year. Schools fall off and others are added, depending on whether the faculty has seen enough recent examples to draw conclusions.

    “There’s always pressure for the marks to be fairly high,” retired Edmonton science and chemistry teacher Lynden Dorval explains.

    “At high schools, you always want your students to do well, so you’re always struggling with the issue of making it a little too easy, because everybody’s happy when the marks go up. The principal is happy, the superintendent is happy, the parents are happy, students are happy.”

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    Moran calls grading inconsistency between schools “a massive problem.”

    “It’s a great expense to the province, the students, and to the university to bring them to university, and you want them to succeed.”

    “The issue of whether or not their grades are a good indicator of the extent to which they’re well-prepared for university is an important issue.”

    Bill Anderson, a chemical engineering professor who has been the Waterloo engineering’s admission director for the last 10 years, calls the list “one of our tools in the tool kit to select students that would be a good fit.”

    “It plays a role, obviously, but it’s only one of the things we’re looking at.”

    “Obviously, we look at grades. We look at the adjustment factor. We look at extracurricular activities, awards, participation in events. We also look at potential work experience, volunteer experience that looks like work. We also look for some indication that they know what engineering is about — what they’re getting into, why they’re getting into it.”

    For students at about two-thirds of the schools on the list, the adjustment factor works in their favour — their school’s graduates had lower-than-average gaps.

    Some 74 Ontario high schools were on Waterloo’s list at some point in the 2016, 2017 or 2018 admission cycles. Some were on the list for all three years, and others for only one. The average in the table below is the average for the years available, which varies.

    Click on a school to see board information and adjustment factors for all years available.

    At a board level, schools in the public boards in Toronto, York Region and Ottawa, and in the separate boards in Ottawa and York Region, had average adjustment factors below 16 per cent. Only one school, Toronto’s L’Amoreaux Collegiate Institute, was below 10 per cent.

    Of the five private schools on the list, four had adjustment factors above 16 per cent.

    Waterloo also applies the concept between provinces in Canada, and for international applicants. Students from New Brunswick had their marks drop about 26 per cent, while graduates of Quebec’s CEGEPstream by only 5.2 per cent.

    Internationally, students from Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Bangladesh had the biggest gaps, and those from Indonesia, Singapore and Malaysia had the smallest.

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    没有高考,SAT,就这样。。。。
     
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    照您这么说,上CB分数划算了。:rolleyes:不相信Lisgar打分比EOM和All Saints HS松那么多。
    LZ这是房价贴?
     
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    这个数字是大学第一年分数与申请大学时分数相比较下降的百分比。应该每年会更新。比如说申请大学时分数是一百,大学第一年是八十五,该数字为十五。
     
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    Your heart is broken, I think.
     
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    记得我以前讲过的秘密名单,当时多少人不信,认为我瞎掰。且佛晓啊。 :( 这回该信了吧。 :)

    这可不是房价贴。在卡北目前面临几个发展大问题(BUILDER纷纷推出新盘,新高中的筹划,LRT带来的部分负面影响等等)部分村民群众有点困扰的情况下,从另外的角度看卡北。

    这10.5不是100-89.5=10.5那么简单的算术。这73所高中的学生是安省进滑大人数最多的73所高中水分和肥胖程度的相对比较。EOM到10,11,12年级,理工课程上80都不容易。如果不想上这蓝翔大学的小留真没必要来这高中。弄一堆60,70,以后回家给父母可不好交代,您以后多做工作,就别让小留来EOM了。现在EOM小留有点多啊,之间有小圈子,就是说中文。现在很多数理化的难题都要用英文解释解题步骤。10,11年级就开始用大学方式授课,有些10/11/12年级内容都是大学一,二年级。错过一次作业,扣分毫不留情。英文打分也贼严。 数理化弱的真的不适合EOM。
     
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    楼主心中的圣地是滑大。 鉴定完毕。
     
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    防难民防穆穆防人口,现连小留也防:tx:担心小留来多了,把EOM的平均分拉低,排名降低了又影响房价:crying:操的心真多:shy::p
     
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    据说滑大学生出来就能在amazon谷歌拿30哇年薪+棒讷思还免费办公室吃住:good::zhichi:
     
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    吹牛!
     
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    He is very happy with the mark:p
     
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    有的学校打分确实有点松,学校的老师太不负责任了。大学招生应该有这样一个机制调节一下,否则好学校就太吃亏了。
     
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    您可别歪曲了我的意思。小留中也有学习顶尖各方面都很勤奋的。我是全面的分析哈,确实有部分小留有点消极。扎堆说中文,玩国内的游戏。国内来的小留其实路比这里CBC要广得多,去个老中少的学校,多说英文,多参加本地人的活动,把成绩弄得高高的,自己,家长,监护人,学校,社会皆大欢喜。没必要拼加拿大的大学和中学的‘蓝翔’
     
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    哥毕业的bell HS比你们说的这些名校牛逼多了哈哈哈哈哈哈
     
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    不要这么激动。其实差别很小。举个例子,EOM 90分进去的学生和CB 91.33分进去的学生大一成绩一样,仅此而已。
     

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