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Democrats More Positive About Socialism Than Capitalism
BY FRANK NEWPORT
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STORY HIGHLIGHTS
  • 47% of Democrats view capitalism positively, down from 56% in 2016
  • 57% of Democrats now view socialism positively, little changed from 2010
  • Republicans very positive about capitalism; 16% positive on socialism

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- For the first time in Gallup's measurement over the past decade, Democrats have a more positive image of socialism than they do of capitalism. Attitudes toward socialism among Democrats have not changed materially since 2010, with 57% today having a positive view. The major change among Democrats has been a less upbeat attitude toward capitalism, dropping to 47% positive this year -- lower than in any of the three previous measures. Republicans remain much more positive about capitalism than about socialism, with little sustained change in their views of either since 2010.

Views About Capitalism and Socialism: by Party
Positive view of capitalism Positive view of socialism
%
%
Democrats/Leaners
2018
47 57
2016 56 58
2012 55 53
2010 53 53
Republicans/Leaners
2018
71 16
2016 68 13
2012 72 23
2010 72 17
GALLUP
These results are from Gallup interviewing conducted July 30-Aug. 5. Views of socialism among Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents are particularly important in the current political environment because many observers have claimed the Democratic Party is turning in more of a socialist direction.

Socialist Bernie Sanders competitively challenged Hillary Clinton for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2016, and more recently, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a candidate with similar policy views and a member of the Democratic Socialists of America, won the Democratic nomination in New York's 14th Congressional District. Several candidates with socialist leanings lost their primary bids in Aug. 7 voting, however, raising doubts about the depth of Democrats' embrace of socialism.

The current survey is the fourth time Gallup has measured Americans' overall views of capitalism and socialism in this format. The question wording does not define "socialism" or "capitalism" but simply asks respondents whether their opinion of each is positive or negative.

Democrats' and Republicans' sharply contrasting views of the two economic systems are not unexpected, given the history of the two parties. Republicans and Republican-leaning independents have notably positive views of capitalism and negative views of socialism. Democrats, by contrast, are less unified in their views, but by 10 percentage points are more positive about socialism than about capitalism.

Fewer Than Half of Young Americans View Capitalism Positively

Americans aged 18 to 29 are as positive about socialism (51%) as they are about capitalism (45%). This represents a 12-point decline in young adults' positive views of capitalism in just the past two years and a marked shift since 2010, when 68% viewed it positively. Meanwhile, young people's views of socialism have fluctuated somewhat from year to year, but the 51% with a positive view today is the same as in 2010.

Older Americans have been consistently more positive about capitalism than socialism. For those 50 and older, twice as many currently have a positive view of capitalism as of socialism.

Views About Capitalism and Socialism: by Age
Positive view of capitalism Positive view of socialism
%
%
18-29
2018
45 51
2016 57 55
2012 56 49
2010 68 51
30-49
2018
58 41
2016 54 37
2012 65 42
2010 58 36
50-64
2018
60 30
2016 69 27
2012 64 36
2010 64 31
65+
2018
60 28
2016 63 24
2012 57 26
2010 54 30
GALLUP
Taken as a Whole, Americans More Positive About Capitalism

A majority of Americans have retained a positive view of capitalism over the past eight years, but this year's 56% positive rating is by four points the lowest recorded since 2010. This modest drop in positive attitudes toward capitalism was driven, as reviewed above, by the less positive attitudes among Democrats.

Despite the increasing prominence of socialism in the public discourse in recent years, little has changed in Americans' attitudes toward the concept at the national level. Americans' positive views of socialism have varied only between 35% and 39%, with this year's reading of 37% right at the trend average.

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Americans Remain Most Positive About Small Business, Entrepreneurs

The Gallup question asking Americans about their views of capitalism and socialism included five other entities: big business, small business, entrepreneurs, the federal government and free enterprise.

As in the past, Americans are most positive about small business, entrepreneurs and free enterprise, and less so about big business. Views of the federal government are, along with views of socialism, the least positive of any of the seven concepts measured.

Americans' positive views of several of the eight items tested are slightly less positive this year than in 2016, including a six-point drop in positive views of free enterprise.

Just off the top of your head, would you say you have a positive or negative image of each of the following?
% Positive
2016 2018 Change
%
% pct. pts.
Small business
96 92 -4
Entrepreneurs 87 86 -1
Free enterprise 85 79 -6
Capitalism 60 56 -4
Big business 53 50 -3
The federal government 44 39 -5
Socialism 35 37 +2
GALLUP
As might be expected, Republicans are significantly more positive than Democrats about free enterprise and big business, consistent with their more positive views of capitalism. There are smaller differences in partisan views of small business and entrepreneurs (both groups are quite positive toward these) as well as the federal government (with well less than half of both groups holding positive views).

Bottom Line

A majority of Democrats have viewed socialism positively each time Gallup has measured the concept since 2010, and -- despite the increased visibility given to the concept this year -- those views have not changed substantively. But the drop in Democrats' positive views of capitalism this year has for the first time left Democrats more positive about socialism as a concept than about capitalism.

It's possible that the drop in Democrats' positive views of capitalism is related to Donald Trump's presidency. Trump is an enthusiastic capitalist, and his administration's efforts to roll back regulations on business and industry, as well as the tax cut law that is advantageous to businesses and corporations, may have caused Democrats to view the entire capitalist enterprise with less positive eyes.

The talk about the Democratic Party moving more toward socialist policies in its platforms in this year's midterm elections was muted with the failure of several socialist candidates to capture their party's nomination in recent primary voting. And, although a majority -- even if not an overwhelming one -- of Democrats nationwide react positively to the word "socialism," the strong antipathy toward socialism among Republicans and Republican-leaning independents suggests a political campaign favorable to socialism would not play well in a general election.

Socialism as a concept is open to many interpretations. Gallup was describing socialism in questions asked in the 1940s in terms of government ownership of businesses -- something that Sanders, Ocasio-Cortez and most other left-leaning Democratic candidates have not advocated. Instead, socialism today seems to embody sets of programs by which the government helps regulate and in some instances run and pay for social programs focused on basic population needs in health, education, housing and employment.

Socialism clearly sounds better as a concept to young people than to those who are older, as it has over the past eight years. Evidence for this is found in the strong support younger voters gave Bernie Sanders during his 2016 presidential campaign (despite his septuagenarian status) and in the candidacy of Ocasio-Cortez (who is herself 28 years old). Whether the appeal of socialism to young adults is a standard function of idealism at that age that dissipates as one grows older, or will turn out to be a more permanent part of the political beliefs held by the cohort of millennials who have come of age over the past decade, remains to be seen.
 
1。很有意思,民主党和支持者,喜欢资本主义的逐年升高,直到2016。喜欢社会主义的也逐年升高,到2016反而下降。什么情况,我看是民主党群体在2016年受到重挫,因而思想加速趋向两级。民主党爱心四射,56+58〉100。或者说,比较天真?

2。共和党一方2012年对社会主义有个小高潮。从17上升了5个百分点,但是很快回归13和17。对资本主义,一直维持在高区不变。共和党71+16<100说明共和党人对主义不是很热衷。实际的多。

3。对资本主义的喜好,与赚钱能力有关(年龄)! 18到30岁,迅速飞升(45%到58%),65岁以后略有下降。这正好与普通人净收入起伏相关。

4。对社会主义的喜好年龄关系,很有意思。当然小孩子喜欢社会主义。之后,一路下跌。65以上,很奇怪,这帮人虽然对资本主义的好感略为降低,但是并没有转身投向社会主义。他们收入降低,但阅历告诉他们,绝不能社会主义,找死。所以,资本主义失的票,并没有被社会主义拿走,这个年龄段,也已经智慧到了看透了主义的阶段。对于主义的执著弱了。

5。美国,人类各方面的领军国家,资本主义倾向绝对超过共产主义。为什么老床拿这个说事儿?皆因如此。民主党被逼上向极端狂奔的方向上,居然将半壁资源赌注在社会主义上。有点逼急了的感觉。

6。联邦政府(大政府)在米国人心里负面形象严重,比大资本公司还惨。当然了社会主义最惨,最负面。

7。米国人普遍对外部世界(生意和政府和主义)更加负面了。但是他们对小生意还是情有独钟。
 
最后编辑:
楼主原话”中国的进步也是秃子头上的小熊猫,不管是因为集中力量办大事,还是人均实力的提高。”
你真是打入西方的高级卧底,准许中国靠社会主义繁荣富强,不准许西方借鉴抄袭。你的任务就是要搞乱加拿大,阻挠西方社会主义的道路。现卧底的工作真是上层次了,流浪地球前要先流浪北美,地球人才能同你们一起飞,是吧?
你的工作基本清晰了。一是赞扬伟大祖国,二是搞乱西方。两条腿齐头并进。
智商抬"高",无法置评!
 
信源gallup。

gallup智商跟你们差距太大,实在是低智商宣传稿。
 
Democrats More Positive About Socialism Than Capitalism
BY FRANK NEWPORT
cxsmqz-bheg8sryk7q-ena.jpg

STORY HIGHLIGHTS
  • 47% of Democrats view capitalism positively, down from 56% in 2016
  • 57% of Democrats now view socialism positively, little changed from 2010
  • Republicans very positive about capitalism; 16% positive on socialism

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- For the first time in Gallup's measurement over the past decade, Democrats have a more positive image of socialism than they do of capitalism. Attitudes toward socialism among Democrats have not changed materially since 2010, with 57% today having a positive view. The major change among Democrats has been a less upbeat attitude toward capitalism, dropping to 47% positive this year -- lower than in any of the three previous measures. Republicans remain much more positive about capitalism than about socialism, with little sustained change in their views of either since 2010.

Views About Capitalism and Socialism: by Party
Positive view of capitalism Positive view of socialism
%
%
Democrats/Leaners
2018
47 57
2016 56 58
2012 55 53
2010 53 53
Republicans/Leaners
2018
71 16
2016 68 13
2012 72 23
2010 72 17
GALLUP
These results are from Gallup interviewing conducted July 30-Aug. 5. Views of socialism among Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents are particularly important in the current political environment because many observers have claimed the Democratic Party is turning in more of a socialist direction.

Socialist Bernie Sanders competitively challenged Hillary Clinton for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2016, and more recently, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a candidate with similar policy views and a member of the Democratic Socialists of America, won the Democratic nomination in New York's 14th Congressional District. Several candidates with socialist leanings lost their primary bids in Aug. 7 voting, however, raising doubts about the depth of Democrats' embrace of socialism.

The current survey is the fourth time Gallup has measured Americans' overall views of capitalism and socialism in this format. The question wording does not define "socialism" or "capitalism" but simply asks respondents whether their opinion of each is positive or negative.

Democrats' and Republicans' sharply contrasting views of the two economic systems are not unexpected, given the history of the two parties. Republicans and Republican-leaning independents have notably positive views of capitalism and negative views of socialism. Democrats, by contrast, are less unified in their views, but by 10 percentage points are more positive about socialism than about capitalism.

Fewer Than Half of Young Americans View Capitalism Positively

Americans aged 18 to 29 are as positive about socialism (51%) as they are about capitalism (45%). This represents a 12-point decline in young adults' positive views of capitalism in just the past two years and a marked shift since 2010, when 68% viewed it positively. Meanwhile, young people's views of socialism have fluctuated somewhat from year to year, but the 51% with a positive view today is the same as in 2010.

Older Americans have been consistently more positive about capitalism than socialism. For those 50 and older, twice as many currently have a positive view of capitalism as of socialism.

Views About Capitalism and Socialism: by Age
Positive view of capitalism Positive view of socialism
%
%
18-29
2018
45 51
2016 57 55
2012 56 49
2010 68 51
30-49
2018
58 41
2016 54 37
2012 65 42
2010 58 36
50-64
2018
60 30
2016 69 27
2012 64 36
2010 64 31
65+
2018
60 28
2016 63 24
2012 57 26
2010 54 30
GALLUP
Taken as a Whole, Americans More Positive About Capitalism

A majority of Americans have retained a positive view of capitalism over the past eight years, but this year's 56% positive rating is by four points the lowest recorded since 2010. This modest drop in positive attitudes toward capitalism was driven, as reviewed above, by the less positive attitudes among Democrats.

Despite the increasing prominence of socialism in the public discourse in recent years, little has changed in Americans' attitudes toward the concept at the national level. Americans' positive views of socialism have varied only between 35% and 39%, with this year's reading of 37% right at the trend average.

pax6tzkzsuu0aoizdj9rnw.png

Americans Remain Most Positive About Small Business, Entrepreneurs

The Gallup question asking Americans about their views of capitalism and socialism included five other entities: big business, small business, entrepreneurs, the federal government and free enterprise.

As in the past, Americans are most positive about small business, entrepreneurs and free enterprise, and less so about big business. Views of the federal government are, along with views of socialism, the least positive of any of the seven concepts measured.

Americans' positive views of several of the eight items tested are slightly less positive this year than in 2016, including a six-point drop in positive views of free enterprise.

Just off the top of your head, would you say you have a positive or negative image of each of the following?
% Positive
2016 2018 Change
%
% pct. pts.
Small business
96 92 -4
Entrepreneurs 87 86 -1
Free enterprise 85 79 -6
Capitalism 60 56 -4
Big business 53 50 -3
The federal government 44 39 -5
Socialism 35 37 +2
GALLUP
As might be expected, Republicans are significantly more positive than Democrats about free enterprise and big business, consistent with their more positive views of capitalism. There are smaller differences in partisan views of small business and entrepreneurs (both groups are quite positive toward these) as well as the federal government (with well less than half of both groups holding positive views).

Bottom Line

A majority of Democrats have viewed socialism positively each time Gallup has measured the concept since 2010, and -- despite the increased visibility given to the concept this year -- those views have not changed substantively. But the drop in Democrats' positive views of capitalism this year has for the first time left Democrats more positive about socialism as a concept than about capitalism.

It's possible that the drop in Democrats' positive views of capitalism is related to Donald Trump's presidency. Trump is an enthusiastic capitalist, and his administration's efforts to roll back regulations on business and industry, as well as the tax cut law that is advantageous to businesses and corporations, may have caused Democrats to view the entire capitalist enterprise with less positive eyes.

The talk about the Democratic Party moving more toward socialist policies in its platforms in this year's midterm elections was muted with the failure of several socialist candidates to capture their party's nomination in recent primary voting. And, although a majority -- even if not an overwhelming one -- of Democrats nationwide react positively to the word "socialism," the strong antipathy toward socialism among Republicans and Republican-leaning independents suggests a political campaign favorable to socialism would not play well in a general election.

Socialism as a concept is open to many interpretations. Gallup was describing socialism in questions asked in the 1940s in terms of government ownership of businesses -- something that Sanders, Ocasio-Cortez and most other left-leaning Democratic candidates have not advocated. Instead, socialism today seems to embody sets of programs by which the government helps regulate and in some instances run and pay for social programs focused on basic population needs in health, education, housing and employment.

Socialism clearly sounds better as a concept to young people than to those who are older, as it has over the past eight years. Evidence for this is found in the strong support younger voters gave Bernie Sanders during his 2016 presidential campaign (despite his septuagenarian status) and in the candidacy of Ocasio-Cortez (who is herself 28 years old). Whether the appeal of socialism to young adults is a standard function of idealism at that age that dissipates as one grows older, or will turn out to be a more permanent part of the political beliefs held by the cohort of millennials who have come of age over the past decade, remains to be seen.
这些参加POLL的人真能搞清楚什么是社会主义/资本主义?
川普嘴里的那些搞社会主义的人,提过所有制的改变吗?
 
Winston Churchill 邱吉爾 曾經这樣説过:”Any man who is not a socialist at age 20 has no heart. Any man who is still a socialist at age 40 has no head.”

这个poll ,好像証明他的說法是对的。
 
这些参加POLL的人真能搞清楚什么是社会主义/资本主义?
川普嘴里的那些搞社会主义的人,提过所有制的改变吗?

Capitalism vs. Socialism
Formal economies operate within limits of established and monitored policies and regulations. Capitalism and socialism are formal economies.

The major differences between capitalism and socialism revolve around the role of the government and equality of economics. Capitalism affords economic freedom, consumer choice, and economic growth. Socialism, which is an economy controlled by the state and planned by a central planning authority, provides for a greater social welfare and decreases business fluctuations.
 
Capitalism vs. Socialism
Formal economies operate within limits of established and monitored policies and regulations. Capitalism and socialism are formal economies.

The major differences between capitalism and socialism revolve around the role of the government and equality of economics. Capitalism affords economic freedom, consumer choice, and economic growth. Socialism, which is an economy controlled by the state and planned by a central planning authority, provides for a greater social welfare and decreases business fluctuations.
这不正是我今天才重新认识的什么是社会主义/资本主义。所以,这些参加POLL的人没搞清楚什么是社会主义/资本主义。川普嘴里的那些搞社会主义的人也并没有真正要搞社会主义。
 
你过虑了。多数人知道什么是社会主义。
两者的区别不是绝对的,但是方向却是截然不同的。20岁看问题,觉得社会主义好。但是。。。。

这不正是我今天才重新认识的什么是社会主义/资本主义。所以,这些参加POLL的人没搞清楚什么是社会主义/资本主义。川普嘴里的那些搞社会主义的人也并没有真正要搞社会主义。
 
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