香港又来了,撤回管用吗。

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  2. Hong Kong police fired rubber bullets, tear gas and pepper spray on Friday to clear protesters outside a subway station on the densely populated Kowloon peninsula, the latest clash in 14 weeks of sometimes violent anti-government demonstrations.

    Hundreds of protesters, many of them masked and dressed in black, took cover behind umbrellas and barricades made from street fencing. Some had broken through a metal grill to enter the station where they pulled down signs, broke turnstiles and daubed graffiti on the walls.

    "We're angry at the police and angry at the government," said Justin, 23, dressed in black and wearing a hoodie. "Police were very brutal with us at this station. We cannot let them get away with it."

    Protesters had gathered outside Prince Edward station in Mong Kok, one of the world's most densely populated regions, where police had fired beanbag guns and used pepper spray to clear demonstrators this week.


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    Riot police walk near a fire set by protesters in Prince Edward, an area in northern Kowloon district. (Tyrone Siu/Reuters)
    They withdrew when police fired rubber bullets, but regrouped in smaller pockets to light fires in the street from wooden pallets, cardboard boxes and other debris. Firemen were dousing the flames.

    "The police will use appropriate force to conduct a dispersal operation and warn all protesters to stop all illegal acts and leave immediately," police said in a statement.

    There was no immediate official word of arrests or injuries. Both Mong Kok and Prince Edward stations were closed.


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    A police officer fires rubber bullets at protesters gathered outside the Mong Kok Police station on Friday. Pro-democracy protesters have continued demonstrations across Hong Kong despite news this week that the Hong Kong leader will withdrawal a controversial extradition bill. (Chris McGrath/Getty Images)
    Hong Kong leader Carrie Lam announced measures this week to try to restore order in the Chinese-ruled city, including the formal withdrawal of a bill that triggered the demonstrations. The law would have allowed extraditions to mainland China, despite the city having an independent judiciary dating back to British colonial rule.

    But the demonstrations, which began in June, had long since morphed into a broader calls for more democracy and many protesters have pledged to fight on, calling Lam's concessions too little, too late.

    "No China" was daubed over walls along the key north-south artery of Nathan Road.

    "The four actions are aimed at putting one step forward in helping Hong Kong to get out of the dilemma," Lam told reporters during a trip to China's southern region of Guangxi. "We can't stop the violence immediately."

    Apart from withdrawing the bill, she announced three other measures to help ease the crisis, including a dialogue with the people.

    Protest to target airport transit
    Demonstrations have at times paralyzed parts of the city, a major Asian financial hub, amid running street battles between protesters and police who have responded with tear gas, pepper spray and water cannons. Violent arrests of protesters, many in metro stations, have drawn international attention.

    The crowds were expected to swell into the night, as the city braces for weekend demonstrations aiming to disrupt transport links to the airport.


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    Protesters stand near burning items during a protest in Mong Kok district. (Kin Cheung/The Associated Press)
    The airport announced that only passengers with tickets would be allowed to use the Airport Express train service on Saturday, boarding in downtown Hong Kong. The train would not stop en route, on the Kowloon peninsula. Bus services could also be hit, it said.

    The measures are aimed at avoiding the chaos of last weekend, when protesters blocked airport approach roads, threw debris on the train track and trashed the MTR subway station in the nearby new town of Tung Chung in running clashes with police.

    Credit rating downgrade
    Global credit rating agency Fitch Ratings on Friday downgraded Hong Kong's long-term foreign currency issuer default rating to AA from AA-plus.

    Fitch said it expects public discontent is likely to persist despite the concessions to certain protester demands.

    German Chancellor Angela Merkel raised the issue of Hong Kong with Chinese Premier Li Keqiang in Beijing, saying a peaceful solution was needed.

    "I stressed that the rights and freedoms for [Hong Kong] citizens have to be granted," Merkel said.

    'Return to order'
    Li told a news conference with Merkel "the Chinese government unswervingly safeguards 'one country, two systems' and 'Hong Kong people govern Hong Kong people'".

    Beijing supported the territory's government "to end the violence and chaos in accordance with the law, to return to order, which is to safeguard Hong Kong's long-term prosperity and stability," Li added.

    Hong Kong returned to China in 1997 under the "one country, two systems" formula which guarantees freedoms not enjoyed on the mainland. Many Hong Kong residents fear Beijing is eroding that autonomy.

    China denies the accusation of meddling and says Hong Kong is its internal affair. It has denounced the protests, warning of the damage to the economy and the possible use of force to quell the unrest.

    In addition to calling for a withdrawal of the extradition bill and the release of those arrested for violence, protesters also want an independent inquiry into perceived police brutality, retraction of the word "riot" to describe rallies and the right for Hong Kong people to choose their own leaders.

    The protests have presented Chinese President Xi Jinping with his greatest popular challenge since he came to power in 2012.
     
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    ccc 难得糊涂 ID:6614 管理成员 VIP

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    never end
     
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    那群愣头青是不懂顺坡下驴的道理的。一定要撞到南墙才回头。
     
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    为啥总要闹公共交通工具?(地铁站,机场)
    影响,绑架更多人撞声势?
     
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    早说过这事港人主导不了,归根到底是香港精英层是废精,把控不住局面。
    管不住愣头青,最后连精英阔老一起拖下水。


     
  8. New Person

    New Person 本站元老 ID:11416

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    从反送中这个口号就可以看出,反修例就是个由头。

    相信大部分香港人是不赞成暴力的。但是他们并不反对或者是同情那些行暴的人,因为他们认为那些人是“自己人”。所以那些行暴的才有恃无恐。
     
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    我说什么来着?
    林郑那个撤回议案简直就是火上浇油。 如果真心要灭火, 当初一开始闹就应该撤, 当时不撤, 说了一句bill is dead来糊弄, 那就应该糊弄到底。 现在应该将错就错, 直接说dead就是撤案了。 这样既占着理儿, 又不会刺激群众。

    结果这个傻大姐居然现在站出来公开说要正是撤回提案。 这不是疯了嘛?那之前你都在忽悠人呢?那幸亏香港人没被你忽悠回家呀, 幸亏香港人持续的抗议啊。

    那你现在站出来说正是撤回, 岂不是为香港人前段时间的上街抗议提供了合法性?你现在这么说, 岂不是鼓励香港人继续斗争?

    这个女人脑子坏掉了吧。
     
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    说实在的,我不敢苟同,这是怪不得她,有没有送中修例,什么时候撤,分几步撤都没用,都只是中间步骤,就是想要独立,其他都是借口。和清君侧一样,清不清都不会撤。
     
  11. gcy1208

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    这冲突还还是先看看规模怎样才好,似乎是说只有几百人参与。
     
    已获得newlife@kanata的支持。
  12. New Person

    New Person 本站元老 ID:11416

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    看周末吧。
     
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    嗯,小打小闹的话就无所谓了。只要群众不被煽动起来就行。想一下子就一点声音都没有了也不太可能。
    希望就这么结束了吧。
     
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    Too Late, Too Little.
     
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    当然怪她。

    从头到尾, 港民无辜, 北京无辜, 完全是因为林郑自己要拍马屁, 才点燃了这场大祸, 而且她有多次平息事态的机会都错过了。 现在又来刺激挑事。 当然应该怪她。

    首先北京根本没有要香港修例的意思, 是林郑自己要拍马屁,才借机搞出来的事情。 这点中联办和港澳办都已经说的清清楚楚了, 始作俑者就是林郑。 你说要不要怪她?

    其次, 香港上下对修改逃犯条例,上下议论纷纷, 已经是民意汹涌了, 她不是借机停止, 而是试图强行通过。 你说要不要怪她?

    第三, 那么多港人都上街抗议了, 她不是顺势就坡下驴, 直接宣布撤回议案, 而是非要顶着汹涌的民意,用寿终正寝来糊弄。你说要不要怪她?

    第四, 既然已经寿终正寝, 而且香港人的抗议中暴乱部分越来越不得人心, 各种舆论正在偏向港府之时, 她突然抛出一段录音, 接着站出来正式宣布要撤回议案。隔了这么就, 才出来说这个话, 等于是宣布之前港人的抗议是合理正确的。 你说要不要怪她?

    第五, 既然都退步了, 那么为什么不多退几步,干脆让这次让步取得平息抗议的成果, 为什么不肯调查港警暴力? 这些举动, 完全就是看见群众运动有气馁之势, 于是上去添把火, 浇点油的行为。 不怪她怪谁?
     
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    月娥同志跟挤牙膏似的,一会儿弄一点...... :D

    港民:五个!
    月娥:0 个!
    ...... 开打 ......
    月娥:半个!
    港民: 五个!
    ...... 接着打 ......
    月娥: 一个?
    港民: 五个!
    ...... 继续打 ......
    月娥: :(
    港民::mad:
    ......
     

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