熙尔批杜鲁多:为啥干预兰万灵却不干预孟晚舟?

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    熙尔批杜鲁多:为啥干预兰万灵却不干预孟晚舟?
     22 评论加国无忧 51.CA2019年10月10日 12:08来源:本网编译作者:VEST

    周二,熙尔发表了新的指责杜鲁多言论,他认为杜鲁多及其团队在兰万灵丑闻事件中的表现,加剧了加拿大和中国之间的糟糕关系。

    一场专门面向少数族裔媒体的圆桌会议,周二在大多伦多地区密西沙加举行。在回答记者提问时,熙尔表示,杜鲁多在兰万灵事件和孟晚舟事件中表现得出尔反尔,进一步损害了加拿大与中国的关系。
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    自去年12月,加拿大应美方要求逮捕了华为高管孟晚舟以来,中加两国的外交关系迅速恶化。中方以“间谍罪”为名,逮捕了两名加拿大人,杜鲁多称这种行为完全是出于报复,而且是任意妄为。

    此外中方还禁了加拿大的油菜籽和猪肉,给加拿大农场主带来不小的困扰。北京方面坚称,加拿大逮捕孟晚舟是出于政治目的,因此才做出了制裁加方的举动。但是时任总理杜鲁多一再强调,加拿大当局遵守法律,做法没毛病。
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    “美国政府通缉孟晚舟,罪名是银行欺诈,美国有充分的证据表明,为了逃避美国对伊朗的制裁,孟晚舟向银行撒谎。”杜鲁多看似言之凿凿,熙尔却质疑他,这么秉公执法,在兰万灵案时为什么要干预司法?

    今年8月,联邦道德专员Mario Dion发布了一份报告,明确指出杜鲁多违反了《利益冲突法》(Conflict of Interest Act),因为在调查兰万灵事件时,特鲁多曾“不当地”向前司法部长王州迪(Jody Wilson-Raybould)施压,要求她撤销对兰万灵腐败案的指控。
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    然而在孟晚舟事件当中,杜鲁多一再向中国政府传达的信息是,他不能干涉法庭案件。当涉及刑事法庭程序时,加拿大有一套独立的系统。在熙尔看来,杜鲁多这是典型的双标,“他一边义正言辞,一边又转身去干预另外一个刑事法庭案件,仅仅是为了自己的私人政治目的。”

    事实上,熙尔不是第一个质疑杜鲁多在这两件事情上表里不一的人。今年3月,中国外交部发言人陆慷在例行记者会上也遇到了这个问题。有记者问他,是否认为杜鲁多在兰万灵和孟晚舟案的立场互相矛盾?陆慷回答说,“我很喜欢你这个问题,但我认为你应该去问问加拿大政府。”
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    不过杜鲁多一直否认他在兰万灵事件中有不当行为,他表示,自己的所作所为都是为了保护加拿大的就业机会。

    熙尔还说,加拿大需要重启与中国的关系。“我想和中国建立良好的关系,我想加强我们的贸易关系,对加拿大的出口商和进口商来说有很多机会值得争取。”熙尔承诺,如果他赢得大选,将会努力解决中加之间的争端,同时还要为两名被监禁的加拿大人、农民和整个加拿大的国家利益挺身而出。
     
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    https://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-pmn/canada-news-pmn/scheer-argues-trudeau-hurt-canada-china-relations-with-snc-lavalin-affair

    Scheer argues Trudeau hurt Canada-China relations with SNC-Lavalin affair
    upload_2019-10-11_17-2-16.png Conservative leader Andrew Scheer takes part in a round table discussion during a campaign stop in Mississauga, Ont. Tuesday, October 8, 2019.JONATHAN HAYWARD / THE CANADIAN PRESS

    MISSISSAUGA, Ont. — Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer told a roundtable of journalists from ethnic media outlets that Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau caused further damage to Canada’s standing with China following the SNC-Lavalin affair.

    Scheer made the argument Tuesday as he fielded questions — including several on Canada’s strained relationship with China — from a couple of dozen journalists in suburban Toronto.

    Canada has been in a diplomatic dispute with China since the arrest last December of Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou in Vancouver on an extradition request from the United States.

    In the days that followed, China detained two Canadians on espionage allegations, moves that Trudeau has called “arbitrary.” China has also rejected key Canadian imports, including canola and pork.

    Beijing has argued that Meng’s arrest in Canada was politically motivated, but Trudeau says Canadian authorities have been following the law: Meng is wanted in the U.S. on bank-fraud charges, related to allegations she lied to banks in an effort to get around American sanctions against Iran.

    Scheer tried to draw connections Tuesday among the China-Canada dispute, the Meng case and a controversy that engulfed Trudeau’s government earlier this year.

    A stinging report in August by federal ethics commissioner Mario Dion concluded that Trudeau violated the Conflict of Interest Act by improperly pressuring former attorney general Jody Wilson-Raybould to stop a criminal prosecution of SNC-Lavalin, a Quebec engineering and construction giant, on corruption charges.

    “I believe that Trudeau really did weaken our position with China as it relates to the SNC-Lavalin scandal,” Scheer said at a restaurant in Mississauga.

    “On the one hand, his message to the government of China with the case of the Huawei executive was that he could not interfere in the court case, that we have an independent proceeding when it comes to criminal-court proceedings.

    “And then he turns around and attempts to interfere in a criminal court case for his own political purposes.”

    A spokesman for China’s foreign ministry suggested the same thing in March, in response to a question from a journalist in a regular briefing. Did Lu Kang think Canadian politicians’ positions on the Meng case and the SNC-Lavalin case were contradictory? the reporter asked, according to a transcript posted to the ministry’s website.

    “I really like your question, yet I think you may need to ask the Canadian government,” Lu answered, and noted that others had raised the idea as well.

    “I believe people can tell right from wrong,” he went on. “In fact, not only the Chinese and Canadian people, but the whole world are very interested to hear what the Canadian government will say.”

    Trudeau has insisted he did not act inappropriately in the SNC-Lavalin affair and that he was standing up for Canadian jobs.

    Scheer said Canada needs “a reset” with China.

    “I want to have good relationships with China, I want to enhance our trade ties,” he said.

    “There are tremendous opportunities for Canadian exporters and for our importers as well.”

    Scheer added that, if he wins the Oct. 21 election, he would work to resolve the dispute — but while standing up for the two jailed Canadians, farmers and for Canada’s interests.

    On Wednesday, Scheer was asked whether he would pursue a meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping as part of resetting relations.

    “If there is a sign that he is willing to live up to international standards of justice, and a meeting would help facilitate that, of course that would be something that I would be interested in,” he told reporters at a campaign stop south of Montreal.

    “But it must be done not just for optics — it must be done with a view to getting those two Canadians released.”

    This report by The Canadian Press was first published Oct. 9, 2019.
     
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    如果你是从中国利益角度出发,都不是好东西。 从加拿大利益出发,其实都差不多的。

    以前看台湾电影说黑社会就像是政客的夜壶,想用的时候拿出来用用,不想要就收起。我们华人也快这样了
     
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    兰万灵事件是美国和保守党为自由党设置的阴阳局。

    第一,美国以兰万灵事件为要挟,要求加拿大小土豆扣押孟晚舟,当然也有可能外加上钢铁税的诱惑。小土豆头脑发热就遵从了。却没有想到掉到了美国和保守党为他设置的陷阱里面。

    第二,当加拿大小土豆意识到孟晚舟事件的严重性,想跟中国交好的时机,美国和保守党就马上抛出兰万灵事件。这就让小土豆左右为难。如果干涉孟晚舟事件就被授人口实,政治干预司法,为兰万灵事件夯实了干涉的基础。所以,小土豆只好放弃和中国交好的机会,而不政治干涉孟晚舟事件,这件事情就一直被拖到现在。

    第三,孟晚舟事件是中加恶化的导火索。美国强压加拿大扣押孟晚舟,间接导致了中加关系的恶化。而又给保守党借口打击自由党搞坏中加关系。如果,小土豆政治干涉孟晚舟事件,同样会被保守党口实,说他们政治干预司法。所以这次孟晚舟事件是美国和保守党为自由党设置的阴阳局。

    至于现在保守党忽悠说什么他会改善中加关系,算了吧,忽悠无知百姓倒是真的。保守党是能把家门口钥匙交给美国政府的人,他会真心搞好中加关系吗?到时候,美国叫他咬谁他就得咬谁。
     
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    希尔对孟晚舟一案曾如何表态?
     
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    Andrew Scheer’s ‘vision’ is Classic Conservative, with an anti-China twist
    Campbell Clark
    Montreal
    Published May 7, 2019Updated May 7, 2019

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    Andrew Scheer, it seems, expects that for Canada, the biggest solution to the turbulent world is that the United States will return to what it was.
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    Forget China, and look for new trade elsewhere. Forge a closer alliance with the United States, because Donald Trump is just a blip. Build the military, and a bigger alliance with like-minded democracies.

    Andrew Scheer’s “vision” speech for Canadian foreign policy was mostly Conservative Classic, not some new flavour. But it did include one big notion for the new, brutal, two-superpower world: forgetting hopes of a warm relationship with China, recognizing our interests are incompatible with Beijing’s and looking elsewhere in the Indo-Pacific region for trade.

    It’s not surprising that a Conservative leader heading into an election wants to talk tough about China, especially right now, when Beijing has arbitrarily detained Canadians in retaliation for the arrest of Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou. But Mr. Scheer wasn’t just advocating retaliation, but retrenchment: dealing with China warily, not currying favour in pursuit of trade.

    “For decades now, many in Canada have looked to China as a way of diversifying our export markets,” Mr. Scheer said. “But in recent years, it has become clear that China’s adversarial approach to Canada and the Western, democratic world has changed those expectations.”

    It’s worth pointing out that Mr. Scheer’s specific plans to fight Chinese pressure over Ms. Meng won’t exactly bring Beijing to its knees. He has proposed withdrawing a $250-million Canadian contribution to the Chinese-backed Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, but the impact would be symbolic. Launching a World Trade Organization complaint is worth pursuing, but won’t bring quick relief. Mr. Scheer has complained Ottawa has done nothing to stop China from blocking exports of Canadian canola, but he doesn’t really have a solution, either.

    But Mr. Scheer’s speech is still noteworthy for an approach beyond the current dispute: It is, in effect, a call for a wary engagement with China in the future, and that must mean doing less with Beijing, not more. The problem, of course, is that a lot of Canadian companies, and farmers, will fear that means losing business with China. Mr. Scheer suggested looking across the Indo-Pacific for new trade, but that’s no quick, magic solution, either.

    Still for one superpower, at least, Mr. Scheer had a clear diagnosis. This speech to a Montreal luncheon crowd of mostly business people, after all, was supposed to outline for the first time Mr. Scheer’s vision for foreign policy.

    In general, it was standard Conservative fare. It was pro-Israel and pro-military, more about alliances than multilateralism. Mr. Scheer quoted Winston Churchill, rather than Lester Pearson.

    Mr. Scheer reiterated his promise to recognize Jerusalem as capital of Israel, following Mr. Trump, and later told reporters that would mean moving Canada’s embassy from Tel Aviv – a repeat of the promise former PM Joe Clark made in 1979, but later abandoned.

    He took some shots at Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, even though last-minute changes to his draft toned down the personal attacks on Mr. Trudeau as a prima donna. He chastised Mr. Trudeau and his government for being neutral and unwilling to pay the price for standing up for democracy and human rights, but of course, his Liberals have feuded with Saudi Arabia and Russia over both.

    To be fair, Mr. Scheer’s speech, one of five designed to outline the Conservative Leader’s vision for leading the country, can only provide a sense of what kind of leader he would be – not a whole foreign policy.

    But it was he who pointed out “that the world has become a very different place,” so you would have expected his vision for dealing with the other superpower would have said more about dealing with Mr. Trump’s dog-eat-dog approach.

    Mr. Scheer’s U.S. policy is the old Conservative policy: Pull closer to Washington, building stronger security and trade alliances.

    When Mr. Scheer promised that a Conservative government would start negotiating Canada’s entry into the U.S. ballistic missile defence program, it brought to mind Mr. Trump’s likely response: How much will Canada pay?

    The U.S. President, after all, has complained that South Korea is not paying $1-billion of the THADD missile-defence system that is supposed to protect the country from North Korean projectiles, and he regularly expresses the notion that NATO allies should be getting a bill for American protection. So Mr. Scheer might just find that Mr. Trump’s reaction to missile-defence talks is not gratitude, but an invoice.

    The bigger issue is that Mr. Trump, and what he represents, might not vanish so quickly. His term ends in 2021, he might win re-election, and even if he doesn’t, a big chunk of his protectionism and America-first isolationist sentiment might be left behind in U.S politics. Mr. Scheer, it seems, expects that for Canada, the biggest solution to the turbulent world is that the United States will return to what it was.

    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/pol...n-is-classic-conservative-with-an-anti-china/
     
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    Trudeau's 'naive approach' to China at fault in Meng mess: Andrew Scheer
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    Published:December 13, 2018

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    Huawei chief financial officer Meng Wanzhou, leaves her home with a security guard in Vancouver on Wednesday, December 12, 2018.Jonathan Hayward / THE CANADIAN PRESS

    OTTAWA — The dilemma Canada finds itself in with Chinese business executive Meng Wanzhou is a result of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s “naive approach” to China, Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer says.

    Canadian entrepreneur Michael Spavor and former diplomat Michael Kovrig were arrested Monday in Beijing on suspicion of “engaging in activities that endanger the national security” of China, shortly after Canada arrested Meng in response to a request from American authorities who want her on suspicion of bank fraud.

    “We now find ourselves in a situation where we have Canadian citizens on foreign soil detained and a government that has pursued a policy of appeasement, putting us in a position where we don’t have the leverage that we might otherwise have,” said Scheer, who urged the government to send a “very high-level message.”

    He called on the Trudeau government to “unequivocally denounce any type of repercussions to Canadians on foreign soil.”

    Canada’s mishandling of China, in Scheer’s view, includes Trudeau’s indecision on whether Huawei — the Chinese telecom company where Meng is a senior executive — should be permitted to supply technology for Canada’s next generation 5G networks. The U.S. alleges Huawei is an organ of Chinese intelligence and should be banned.

    Canada still has not been granted consular access to the two detained Canadians, said a government source, speaking on the condition of anonymity citing the sensitivity of the case.

    One of President Donald Trump’s top economic advisers says the arrests of the two Canadians were plainly a response to Meng’s arrest.

    “Of course it is,” Peter Navarro, the president’s top trade adviser, told Fox Business Network on Thursday when asked whether the arrests amounted to a tit-for-tat response by the Chinese. “That’s the Chinese playbook and again the problem we always have with China is when we launch legitimate concerns over whatever it is, China comes back and does these kinds of actions.

    “So, they’re very hard to deal with in a Western way.”

    Many questions have been raised about the legitimacy of the Meng case following U.S. President Donald Trump’s musing this week that he would be willing to intervene on her behalf if it would help him strike a trade deal with China. Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland is to travel to Washington on Friday along with Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan for a meeting with their counterparts, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Defence Secretary James Mattis.

    Manwhile, legal experts say Canada’s faulty extradition system will be on full international display as the world closely watches Meng’s case unfold.

    Defence lawyer Donald Bayne said Canada’s Extradition Act essentially gives judges no discretion, which means practically everybody gets extradited no matter how flimsy the evidence against the accused person.

    “It’s a terrible and defective system … (the judge is) a rubber stamp,” Bayne said Thursday in an interview. “And now we’re going to be the victims of our own defective system.”

    Bayne represented Hassan Diab, who was extradited to France years ago on charges he’d bombed a Paris synagogue in 1980, even though the Ottawa judge presiding over the extradition case acknowledged the evidence was too weak to have led to a conviction in Canada.

    The case took six years to make its way through Canadian courts before Diab was sent to France. Last January, after Diab spent years in a French jail, the French dropped all the charges against him for lack of evidence and he returned to Canada.

    Robert Currie, a professor of international law at Dalhousie University in Halifax, said the Diab case illustrates the flaws with Canada’s extradition system. He said the current system is too fully tilted towards the Crown.

    “Even countries that we trust, as having recognizable justice systems can have politicized prosecutions. That much is clear in Diab’s case,” said Currie. “And it is definitely a suggestion in the case of Ms. Meng, now that we have seen President Trump’s remarks about her being a bargaining chip.”

    Bayne, and other experts, have called for a review of the Extradition Act to ensure the process is much more than a rubber stamp.

    It was a high-profile extradition case — but Meng’s situation has already attracted significant worldwide attention.

    And because of it, Canada now finds itself entangled in a diplomatic crisis with its second-largest trading partner.

    On Wednesday Freeland said Meng could use Trump’s remark to help fight her extradition. Freeland said any comments made in the U.S. could be used by Meng’s lawyers before Canadian courts.

    Bayne said because of the high-stakes nature of Meng’s case, federal Justice Minister Jody Wilson-Raybould could block the extradition — although he believes such a step would be a first in Canada.

    He believes the stakes of this case are so high for Canada that it’s possible Wilson-Raybould will step in to prevent the extradition.

    “We get caught as the filler of the sandwich between these two giant superpowers and we’re constrained by our own Extradition Act,” he said. “China’s looking very hard at what we do here and if our extradition system works in its normal way… The world is looking at our process here.”

    He added that ministers have intervened in extradition cases in the past, but only to attach conditions — not to prevent people from being extradited. For example, such moves have been used in cases where the individual is being sent to a jurisdiction with the death penalty, Bayne said.
     
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    印象比政府更强硬,他大概是说如果当选,他要standup for 那两个加拿大人。
     
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    上面的中文稿走样了。
     
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    中文稿一般都会走样,或故意遗漏
     

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