大选之后,草原省份要揭竿而起闹独立?

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    Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe says the federal election results confirm there’s a fire of frustration burning in Western Canada and it’s time for a “new deal” with Ottawa.

    Moe is renewing his calls for Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to cancel the federal carbon tax, to rework the equalization formula and to get oil pipelines built to open up international markets.

    The Liberals secured a minority mandate in Monday’s vote, but did not retain a single seat in Saskatchewan or Alberta.

    Moe likens his plan to a fire extinguisher and says it’s up to Trudeau to douse western Canadian frustration.
     
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    Abexit! Why did they vote yesterday?
     
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    BCexit, Sakexit, Manexit, Ontexit, Quexit...
     
  5. 照出个妖妖

    照出个妖妖 新手上路 ID:178281

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    都是极右翼在做怪,等着接受大围剿吧。
     
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    ccc 难得糊涂 ID:6614 管理成员 VIP

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    西部牛仔。

    萨省也就是学婴儿,哭叫要奶吃。
     
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    gocanoeing 知名会员 ID:72273

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    阿省萨省真独了的话,保守党再少50席,那还有执政的可能吗

    所以这个问题还是请保守党去处理比较好
     
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    uglyducking 从前有座山 ID:13040 VIP

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    赶紧独立,下次去板斧也算是出了国了:zhichi:。穷人只能在加拿大境内玩儿,老委屈了:shy::crying::crying::crying:
     
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    If Scheer had said "We accept our defeat and will work with the gov't" like the NDP?Greens/Bloc have done this would have helped his party. Instead he made nothing but negative confrontational comments
     
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    一看就是自由党的粉。如此撕裂不是自由党干的好事?毫无原则啊!
     
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    SFU 知名会员 ID:75962

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    wexit
     
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    这个怎么说呢,应该是不论是人或党都是要先考虑自身利益的

    比如说如果阿省的34席一大半都是投的自由党,自由党没有阿省的席位就很难组成(多数)政府,那么自由党是不是会对阿省另眼相看,如同对魁省一样?

    所以说阿省萨省习惯不投自由党,又要抱怨自由党不对他们特别照顾,真没什么意义,谁都不是圣人
     
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    地坛北里 初级会员 ID:173084

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    分了好,已后自由党就只領导安省和东三省吧,什麼時候安省也exit?魁省借東風也独立了最好!政府工就不需CCC了
     
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    New Person 本站元老 ID:11416

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    A new deal with Canada? How about a new deal FOR Canada

    Canada's 2019 federal election is over, and the results reveal a concerning split between west and east, rural and urban.

    "There is no escaping the fact that this is a country divided," concluded the CBC's Chris Hall in his post-election analysis.

    In all major eastern cities, the Conservative vote share declined. Of the 50 seats in Toronto, the Liberals won all but five.

    In the three Prairie provinces, the Liberals were almost completely shut out. Of the 48 seats in Alberta and Saskatchewan, the Conservatives won all but one.

    In response, the Premier of Saskatchewan, Scott Moe, wasted no time in calling for "a new deal with Canada." In an open letter, he makes three demands:

    1. Cancel the federal carbon tax.

    2. Commit to negotiate a new equalization formula that is fair to Saskatchewan and Alberta.

    3. Commit to develop a plan to ensure Saskatchewan and Alberta can get our exports to international markets. This means pipelines.
    In voicing these frustrations, the premier is not alone.

    Regional alienation — primarily in the West — is on the rise. In recent polling from Environics, 45 per cent of Canadians feel their province isn't "treated with the respect it deserves in Canada." In Alberta, this sentiment is shared by a staggering 71 per cent.

    But it's hard to think of more divisive policies to focus on if the goal is to strengthen national unity.

    Of course disagreement and debate is natural. And federal policies will always affect different regions differently. Such disagreements, though, should be seen for the family squabbles that they are. Important to hash out, but not at the expense of the whole.

    Provinces don't need a "new deal with Canada," but the federal government may need a new deal for Canada.

    Instead of the three demands laid out by Premier Moe, consider three others: improve internal trade, ease labour mobility, and expand federal transfers to better protect provinces in need.

    With concrete improvements in these areas, Canada can kill two birds with one stone: improve national unity and increase prosperity at the same time.

    Internal trade
    Much has been written about the damaging effects of barriers to inter-provincial trade (see, for example, the recent report from the Senate of Canada.)

    I won't rehash that, but instead I'll make another point: if our trade linkages were stronger, economic shocks to one province (both good and bad) would spread to other provinces.

    Businesses in Alberta buy from suppliers in Ontario and Quebec. And businesses in Quebec buy from suppliers in British Columbia and Newfoundland. Provinces currently trade more than $370 billion per year with each other. That's about 18 per cent of total GDP in the country.

    These linkages bind economies together, but trade barriers in Canada keep these linkages weaker than they could be.

    Those inter-provincial trade numbers could be larger. Much larger.

    Recently published analysis by the IMF (I was a member of the research team) suggests that if internal barriers to trade between provinces were eliminated, total trade volumes would increase by about $300 billion per year.

    With a near doubling of trade between Canadians in one province and suppliers in another, we could more clearly see how our own success is tied to the success of fellow Canadians elsewhere.

    Labour mobility
    Moving goods and services across provinces is one way to bind economies together. Moving people is another.

    In Newfoundland and Labrador, for example, workers earned roughly $1.1 billion in 2014 from jobs in other provinces. That's nearly 10 per cent of total labour earnings for the entire province.


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    Workers often live in one place but work in another, so reducing economic barriers between provinces will help the country as a whole, says economist Trevor Tombe. (Left: tricanwellservice.com, Right: Associated Press)
    In Quebec, $5.2 billion is earned by work in other provinces. In Ontario and B.C., that amount is roughly $4 billion.

    Nationally, more than $21 billion was earned by nearly half a million workers who lived in one province but worked in another in 2014. And one-third of them chose to work in Alberta.

    But policies make this type of work unnecessarily hard.

    If you are certified to work in one province, you aren't necessarily allowed to work in another. If these restrictions were eased, labour could flow more freely. Opportunities in one region would therefore have a better chance of benefiting others.

    It would bring Canada's extended family closer together.

    Improve federal transfers
    Finally, when talking about equalization reform, Moe is missing the lowest-hanging fruit to both improve federal transfers and bring provinces closer together: better federal insurance for the provinces.

    Federal policy connects our provinces through myriad revenue and spending programs. These programs can be improved, starting with ways to help buffer provincial budgets when revenues suddenly drop.

    The current "Fiscal Stabilization Program," which provides insurance to provinces in sudden need, is weak.

    When oil prices fell, Alberta received only $251 million. Barely a drop in the bucket, due to a $60-per-person limit implemented in 1986 that hasn't been adjusted since.


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    Prime Minister Justin Trudeau looks on as Calgary Mayor Naheed Nenshi speaks during an infrastructure announcement in in May 2018. Economist Trevor Tombe says the federal government could modernize its Fiscal Stabilization Program to better support regions during hard economic times. (Jeff McIntosh/Canadian Press)
    To be clear, Alberta knowingly, willingly, and repeatedly takes known risks in funding public services with volatile resource revenues. This need not be insured. But even insuring declines in non-resource revenue more fully would have seen much more than the $251-million payment Alberta received.

    I estimate that if the federal stabilization program operated as it did originally in 1967, but excluded natural resources, Alberta would have qualified for roughly $2 billion in 2016.

    However the program is improved (and enlarged), tighter fiscal connections between provinces will also help spread one province's gains and losses more equitably among the whole. Canadians already contribute collectively when natural disasters strike. We can similarly share in the burden of economic disasters, too.

    At the very least, it's a conversation worth having.

    A better way forward
    Federal policy affects different regions differently. This is unavoidable.

    We can debate the pros and cons of policies like C-69, C-48, equalization, or whatever else, but on their merits. There is no need to escalate the debate to inflame regional animosity.

    Our focus should be on policies that unite us, not divide us. Improved internal trade, labour mobility, infrastructure, federal transfers, and so on, can and should be higher federal priorities.

    I'm reminded of the words former prime minister John Diefenbaker spoke often on the campaign trail over 60 years ago: "I have come to discuss with you the future of Canada — not just of this section or that — but of the nation as a whole."

    He ran on a platform of "One Country — One Policy — One Canada."

    Today, we have an opportunity to do the same. To boost both national prosperity and national unity.

    We should look, as Diefenbaker said, to the nation as a whole.
     
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    Albertans have been rightfully frustrated by the unfair deal we are getting in the Federation going as far as to even express support for separation

    I don’t want to let @JustinTrudeau push us out of our country

    I’d rather focus on separating him from the Prime Minister’s office pic.twitter.com/AEMq22BrXt

    — Jason Kenney (@jkenney) August 3, 2019
     
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    New Person 本站元老 ID:11416

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    作为省长,可以站在省的立场上。但作为联邦政府,必须站在加拿大国家的立场上。
    这位省长要和加拿大make a new deal,显然自认为已经不是加拿大的一员。
     

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