进了美国nursing home,竟然只能活一年,中位数只有5个月。2010年。进去就是等死的说法还真是没错啊。

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现在估计就更短了。不进去,也许能多活几天。​

Length of stay for older adults residing in nursing homes at the end of life​

Anne Kelly 1, Jessamyn Conell-Price, Kenneth Covinsky, Irena Stijacic Cenzer, Anna Chang, W John Boscardin, Alexander K Smith
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Abstract​

Objectives: To describe lengths of stay of nursing home decedents.
Design: Retrospective cohort study.
Setting: The Health and Retirement Study (HRS), a nationally representative survey of U.S. adults aged 50 and older.
Participants: One thousand eight hundred seventeen nursing home residents who died between 1992 and 2006.
Measurements: The primary outcome was length of stay, defined as the number of months between nursing home admission and date of death. Covariates were demographic, social, and clinical factors drawn from the HRS interview conducted closest to the date of nursing home admission.
Results: The mean age of decedents was 83.3 ± 9.0; 59.1% were female, and 81.5% were white. Median and mean length of stay before death were 5 months (interquartile range 1-20) and 13.7 ± 18.4 months, respectively. Fifty-three percent died within 6 months of placement. Large differences in median length of stay were observed according to sex (men, 3 months vs women, 8 months) and net worth (highest quartile, 3 months vs lowest quartile, 9 months) (all P <.001). These differences persisted after adjustment for age, sex, marital status, net worth, geographic region, and diagnosed chronic conditions (cancer, hypertension, diabetes mellitus, lung disease, heart disease, and stroke).
Conclusion: Nursing home lengths of stay are brief for the majority of decedents. Lengths of stay varied markedly according to factors related to social support.
© 2010, Copyright the Authors. Journal compilation © 2010, The American Geriatrics Society.
 
那你还留在这里? 这么可怕的死地你还不跑?
 
那你还留在这里? 这么可怕的死地你还不跑?
跑哪儿去,我说的是医疗商业化,护理商业化。

哪里有孝子贤孙?给我指个明路。



这是医疗护理圈子的普遍问题。中产阶级干一辈子,全交给养老,但是得到的呵护,只有看运气了,碰见个好的护理员,好的护工nurse。

这里面有贪婪的医疗护理产业,有nurse的问题,有管理的问题, 更有医学科学本身的问题。

问题太多。
 
这地方应该是老到不能生活自理的人才进去。

这结果是不是说老人从生活不能自理到过世平均是5个月的时间 ?
 
有没有retirement home的数据?平均能活多长时间?

Nursing home 和所谓的养老院,可能进去的人都已经差不多要完了。
 

现在估计就更短了。不进去,也许能多活几天。​

Length of stay for older adults residing in nursing homes at the end of life​

Anne Kelly 1, Jessamyn Conell-Price, Kenneth Covinsky, Irena Stijacic Cenzer, Anna Chang, W John Boscardin, Alexander K Smith
Affiliations expand
Free PMC article

Abstract​

Objectives: To describe lengths of stay of nursing home decedents.
Design: Retrospective cohort study.
Setting: The Health and Retirement Study (HRS), a nationally representative survey of U.S. adults aged 50 and older.
Participants: One thousand eight hundred seventeen nursing home residents who died between 1992 and 2006.
Measurements: The primary outcome was length of stay, defined as the number of months between nursing home admission and date of death. Covariates were demographic, social, and clinical factors drawn from the HRS interview conducted closest to the date of nursing home admission.
Results: The mean age of decedents was 83.3 ± 9.0; 59.1% were female, and 81.5% were white. Median and mean length of stay before death were 5 months (interquartile range 1-20) and 13.7 ± 18.4 months, respectively. Fifty-three percent died within 6 months of placement. Large differences in median length of stay were observed according to sex (men, 3 months vs women, 8 months) and net worth (highest quartile, 3 months vs lowest quartile, 9 months) (all P <.001). These differences persisted after adjustment for age, sex, marital status, net worth, geographic region, and diagnosed chronic conditions (cancer, hypertension, diabetes mellitus, lung disease, heart disease, and stroke).
Conclusion: Nursing home lengths of stay are brief for the majority of decedents. Lengths of stay varied markedly according to factors related to social support.
© 2010, Copyright the Authors. Journal compilation © 2010, The American Geriatrics Society.


"The mean age of decedents was 83.3±9.0.Median and mean length of stay before death were 5 months (interquartile range 1-20) and 13.7 ± 18.4 months, respectively". 也就是说平均入院年龄是82岁。这些老人家进院本来就是接受临终关怀为主了。
 
一罗马尼亚朋友的母亲年迈生活不能自理,因工作无法照顾老人,他们把老人送nursing home,几个月后老人走了。
 
是啊。就是这意思,能不进,不进。
 
不进去也不会多活几天。进去,好歹还有人看护,也免得死在家里。
 
不进去也不会多活几天。进去,好歹还有人看护,也免得死在家里。
雇人在家看护的活得时间长的多。
 
如果花钱找人全日在家照顾老人,不知是否可行?

至少得请两个人吧。

另外还要死在家里。
 
雇人在家看护的活得时间长的多。

没意思,那时候活着根本就不是为了自己,那是给别人活着呢。

我要是到了那个状态,巴不得安乐死算了。
 
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