不浅谈,芯片控制和补偿:美国又面临新噩梦

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中国出台1430亿美元芯片补贴。



But why worry about older chip technology?

China, which in 2020 had 9% of the global chip market, has a track record of dominating key technologies by flooding the market with cheaper products and wiping out global competition, say China watchers.
They did it with solar panels and 5G telecom equipment, and could do it with older technology chips, said Matt Pottinger, former Deputy National Security Advisor of the United States during the Trump administration who has been studying chip policy at the Hoover Institution.

“It would give Beijing coercive leverage over every country and industry - military or civilian - that depend on 28 nanometer chips, and that's a big, big chunk of the chip universe," he said.

the concern is that Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corp (0981.HK) and other chipmakers in China could use government subsidies to sell chips at a low price. And a possible new round of financial support from Beijing would increase chip production even further.

“The Chinese could just flood the market with these technologies,” he said. “Normal companies can't compete, because they can't make money at those levels.”

换道竞争,玩不了不玩高阶芯片,把西方传统的老制程芯片用价格打垮

土共九头鸟怪兽,天下经济,唯价格不破
 
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中国只要把28-14纳米做好,就能满足90%需求,先进制程成本高,很多领域不需要。。。
 
老毛早就说了:你打你的,我打我的。
 
除了手机等小巧电子设备,比如航天,汽车等,很多领域不需要几纳米级别芯片,先拿下一块,慢慢最扩展。
 
高端制程用在如电脑cpu, gpu, 手机cpu上,这些产品本来也不是中国设计的,反正需要进口,干脆放弃。
 

中国出台1430亿美元芯片补贴。



But why worry about older chip technology?

China, which in 2020 had 9% of the global chip market, has a track record of dominating key technologies by flooding the market with cheaper products and wiping out global competition, say China watchers.
They did it with solar panels and 5G telecom equipment, and could do it with older technology chips, said Matt Pottinger, former Deputy National Security Advisor of the United States during the Trump administration who has been studying chip policy at the Hoover Institution.

“It would give Beijing coercive leverage over every country and industry - military or civilian - that depend on 28 nanometer chips, and that's a big, big chunk of the chip universe," he said.

the concern is that Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corp (0981.HK) and other chipmakers in China could use government subsidies to sell chips at a low price. And a possible new round of financial support from Beijing would increase chip production even further.

“The Chinese could just flood the market with these technologies,” he said. “Normal companies can't compete, because they can't make money at those levels.”

换道竞争,玩不了不玩高阶芯片,把西方传统的老制程芯片用价格打垮

土共九头鸟怪兽,天下经济,唯价格不破



工信部部长和数名芯片大基金经理被抓,这钱投进去,怎么花的是不言而喻。
 


工信部部长和数名芯片大基金经理被抓,这钱投进去,怎么花的是不言而喻。
泥沙俱下是肯定的,又想马儿跑,又想马儿不吃草,那就回到老毛时代。

中国这种贪污,起码搞砸的人,可以有人被追责。
你看看Intel,拿了大笔补贴,却业绩下滑,股票腰斩,CEO拿了1.78亿红包,还是合法的,说理都没有地方。

Gelsinger took over as CEO of Intel in Feb. 2021, and received a compensation package worth $178.59 million later that year, according to a financial filing.

前铁道部部长都贪污枪毙了,也不影响中国补贴搞成了世界第一的高铁
 
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泥沙俱下是肯定的,又想马儿跑,又想马儿不吃草,那就回到老毛时代。

中国这种贪污,起码搞砸的人,可以有人被追责。
你看看Intel,拿了大笔补贴,却业绩下滑,股票腰斩,CEO拿了1.78亿红包,还是合法的,说理都没有地方。

Gelsinger took over as CEO of Intel in Feb. 2021, and received a compensation package worth $178.59 million later that year, according to a financial filing.

前铁道部部长都贪污枪毙了,也不影响中国补贴搞成了世界第一的高铁

今时不同往日的一点是,高铁那会儿,官员贪,但是老百姓同样日子也不错,大家心气都很高,觉得明天都有希望。现在,就我们家这个大家庭来说,大部分人整天都垂头丧气的,看来要牺牲中产的生活水平来搞举国体制了。
 
今时不同往日的一点是,高铁那会儿,官员贪,但是老百姓同样日子也不错,大家心气都很高,觉得明天都有希望。现在,就我们家这个大家庭来说,大部分人整天都垂头丧气的,看来要牺牲中产的生活水平来搞举国体制了。
老百姓日子不错?我出国那会,拿1千人民币,天天骑自行车,还是非常好的单位,也是凤毛麟角的大学生。
你顶多说那时候老百姓觉得有希望还差不多,比现在日子肯定苦多了。
 
老百姓日子不错?我出国那会,拿1千人民币,天天骑自行车,还是非常好的单位,也是凤毛麟角的大学生。
你顶多说那时候老百姓觉得有希望还差不多,比现在日子肯定苦多了。

刘志军2013判的,你那会儿拿1000?
 
刘志军2013判的,你那会儿拿1000?
我2003年出国的,不过 当时就开始搞铁路高铁了吧,他是2011年倒的,那之前搞了很久,也贪污了很久

2003至2011年任铁道部部长。2011年因涉嫌严重违纪而被免职。
2003年刘志军上任后不久,铁道部会同交通部、国家发改委等部门,制定了中国首个《中长期铁路网规划》,并于2004年1月经国务院常务会议审议通过。规划确定,到2020年全国铁路营业里程要达到10万公里,主要繁忙干线实现客货分线, 复线率和电化率均达到50%。同时,提出了“四纵四横”客运专线的宏伟计划,客运专线总长度达到1.2万公里,客车速度目标值达到每小时200公里及以上[24]。实现《中长期铁路网规划》的总投资达到20000亿元人民币[
 
泥沙俱下是肯定的,又想马儿跑,又想马儿不吃草,那就回到老毛时代。

中国这种贪污,起码搞砸的人,可以有人被追责。
你看看Intel,拿了大笔补贴,却业绩下滑,股票腰斩,CEO拿了1.78亿红包,还是合法的,说理都没有地方。

Gelsinger took over as CEO of Intel in Feb. 2021, and received a compensation package worth $178.59 million later that year, according to a financial filing.

前铁道部部长都贪污枪毙了,也不影响中国补贴搞成了世界第一的高铁
只要习总一声令下,国内的股票还不是想让哪支涨就哪支涨。芯片能不能造出来就是另一回事了。
 
我2003年出国的,不过 当时就开始搞铁路高铁了吧,他是2011年倒的,那之前搞了很久,也贪污了很久

2003至2011年任铁道部部长。2011年因涉嫌严重违纪而被免职。
2003年刘志军上任后不久,铁道部会同交通部、国家发改委等部门,制定了中国首个《中长期铁路网规划》,并于2004年1月经国务院常务会议审议通过。规划确定,到2020年全国铁路营业里程要达到10万公里,主要繁忙干线实现客货分线, 复线率和电化率均达到50%。同时,提出了“四纵四横”客运专线的宏伟计划,客运专线总长度达到1.2万公里,客车速度目标值达到每小时200公里及以上[24]。实现《中长期铁路网规划》的总投资达到20000亿元人民币[
2003年时候拿1000?应该是1993吧?
 
2003年时候拿1000?应该是1993吧?
张嘴就来
1993左右 我拿82 块加几十块奖金。
我2003出国,单位分的房子,卖15万,前几年回国150万。
 
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