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Rule is rule, "friendship" is bullshit. Ruin the rule just for big "harmony", it will not get any respect from international community. It will only raise more question marks. Why give in? Is there anything fishy elsewhere?
It is a very good topic to debate on.
It would be much appreciated if anyone could post any Britich media reaction to see if China's give in get anything respectfuly from U.K?
Actually there was an incident that a British bronze medal winner insulted a Chinese Female official before medal ceremony by dropping water on that Chinese female offcial's head. Why didn't I hear any strong voice from organizer?
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陈中遭改判无奈无缘奖牌 陈立人:一切以大局为重
2008-08-24 02:54:22 来源: 网易体育 作者：网易奥运报道联盟专稿 网友评论 0 条 进入论坛
特派记者 林大为
就昨天发生的陈中遭改判无缘卫冕冠军事件，记者采访了中国跆拳道队温籍总教练陈立人，陈立人说，中国队之所以未提出申诉，完全是出于比赛圆满结束的大局考虑。
在昨天的跆拳道女子67公斤以上级的四分之一决赛中，陈中以1比0战胜了英国选手史蒂文森，但赛后，英国队提出上诉，他们认为英国选手的一记下劈踢到了陈中头部，应该得到2分。裁判委员会经过观看录像回放，认为英国选手史蒂文森进攻有效，因为跆拳道比赛中击中对手头部将得到2分，因此比赛改判为英国选手2比1获胜。
但史蒂文森在随后的半决赛中负于墨西哥选手，使陈中失去了争夺铜牌的机会，而她在此后的比赛中获得了胜利，赢得了英国历史上第一块奥运会跆拳道奖牌。
赛后记者采访了中国跆拳道队温籍总教练陈立人，他说，他从事跆拳道十多年了，从未见过比赛结束后还要改判，他还透露跆拳道跟其他项目一样，场上裁判的判决是最终的判决。那中国队未何不提出申诉呢？陈立人说，完全是为了比赛能圆满结束。“如果我们提出申诉，比赛就不能按时完成，这就会影响大局，我们是东道主啊。如果这场比赛是外国比，我们肯定会提出申诉的。再说中国代表团已夺得了这么多金牌，也不缺这一块金牌。只是委屈了陈中。”
言语中，陈立人也隐隐透露，裁判有帮英国队的意思，英国队是下届奥运会的东道主，从未夺得过奥运会跆拳道的奖牌，而中国队本届奥运会已夺得一金一铜，为了平衡，也为了英国跆拳道的发展，裁判敢冒天下之大不韪，进行赛后改判。“如果是赛中改判，以陈中的实力还是有机会扳回来的。当然，我们自己也有不足，如果大比分领先，这2分改判也就无济于事了。”
“基本完成任务”
谈到本届奥运会中国跆拳道队的成绩，陈立人说：“女子争取金牌，男子实现奖牌突破，我们基本完成任务，但没有像举重、体操、跳水等项目那样超额完成任务。”
从跆拳道2000年悉尼奥运会成为正式比赛项目后，中国队是一届一个台阶，悉尼获得一金，雅典夺得两金，本届奥运会虽然只获得一金一铜，但这一金是女子小级别第一次夺冠，而一铜是男子的第一枚奖牌。如果不是陈中遭改判，中国队可以拿到二金一铜，这样的成绩就更完美了。
对于中国跆拳道队近三届奥运会取得的成绩，陈立人说，主要原因是中国队充分发挥了团队精神，“另外我们坚持走自己的路，还有就是发扬创新精神。”有了这样的成绩，陈立人对中国跆拳道更加有信心了，他说，相信在年轻教练的带领下，中国队会扩大优势的。
“先好好休息一下”
从陈立人的语气中，记者听出了他已荫生退意。从1987年做中国拳击队主教练至今，陈立人已在教练一线干了20多年，“我已参加过5届奥运会，是该休息休息了。”陈立人说。
1991年出任中国跆拳道队主教练，1995年升任总教练来，陈立人一直致力于中国跆拳道运动的普及和发展，从当初的一穷二白到如今国家队里人才济济，而跆拳道热也遍布大江南北，陈立人可以安心地离开了。至于自己的去向，陈立人说：“奥运会刚刚才结束，还没来得及仔细考虑，先好好休息一段时间再说吧，到时回温州我们再慢慢聊吧。”
以下是连接 http://2008.163.com/08/0824/02/4K331TQ6007425UH.html
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Once he had recovered, he found himself being dragged away from media interviews by overzealous Chinese marshals. A scuffle broke out, in which Davies’s coach Kevin Renshaw, and Michael Scott, Britain’s performance director, shouted at the marshals to “keep your hands off him – do not touch him.” The female marshal then shouted at Davies, who broke off from being interviewed to say: “Just shut up!” She did no such thing but before she knew it, Davies had splashed water in her face from the drinks bottle he was carrying. Scott joked: “He was just shaking a champagne bottle, nothing more than that.”
翻译：8月21日，英国选手戴维·戴维斯在顺义奥林匹克水上公园进行的北京奥运会男子10公里马拉松游泳比赛中获得第二名。爬上岸后，戴维斯整个人瘫倒在岸上，好似昏睡过去。奥运会医护人员赶紧过来检查，然后把他抬上担架。过了一段时间，戴维斯恢复过来，说自己没事儿。此时，已经有很多英国媒体记者为上来采访。戴维斯精神头来了，说自己上岸后只是想躺下来睡会儿，没想到“中国佬竟把自己弄到担架上去了”。
这时比赛早已结束，原定11:50的颁奖仪式也耽误了，所有的人都在等候戴维斯一人。义务工作人员催促了好几次，偏偏戴维斯兴致来了，还对着众多英国媒体喋喋不休。一位女义工以为戴维斯没听到，上前轻拉他的衣袖，这可惹恼了一旁的教练Kevin Renshaw，和英国队的主管Michael Scott。两人大叫“放开手，不许碰他!”(keep your hands off him – do not touch him)。
女义工继续催促，要戴维斯停止采访去参加颁奖仪式。这回可惹火了戴维斯，转身冲着女义大叫“闭嘴”(Will you shut up?)。戴维斯觉得还不解气，顺手一瓶水全浇在女工的脸上，惹得旁边一群人哈哈大笑。戴维斯这才结束采访，乐呵呵地去参加颁奖仪式。
英国水上项目主管Michael Scott笑称，“没什么，这瓶水只当是庆祝胜利的香槟。” （He was just shaking a champagne bottle, nothing more than that.）
Davies makes a splash in more ways than one - Aquatics, Olympics - The Independent
After taking on board sugar, Davies was ready to face the press. He was speaking happily and articulately in the “mix zone” about his experience when an official - a Chinese woman for whom the adjective “overzealous” might have been invented - barked repeatedly in his ear in Chinese and tried to manhandle him away.
“Will you shut up, please?” he asked her at first. More hassling followed. More barking. Then a tug on Davies' arm. “Will you take your hands off me, please?” asked Davies.
The official wanted him to head to the nearby podium but the medal ceremony was still 10 minutes away and Davies talked on. He was grabbed again. “Touch me one more time,” the mild-mannered Davies warned. And then the official touched him one more time, barking louder.
Davies had a plastic bottle of Evian in his hand. He turned. A moment later his bottle was less full. It was raining hard, but not all the water on the official's head was rain. No complaints were made. And certainly not from any spectators.
Rule is rule, "friendship" is bullshit. Ruin the rule just for big "harmony", it will not get any respect from international community. It will only raise more question marks. Why give in? Is there anything fishy elsewhere?
It is a very good topic to debate on.
It would be much appreciated if anyone could post any Britich media reaction to see if China's give in get anything respectfuly from U.K?
Actually there was an incident that a British bronze medal winner insulted a Chinese Female official before medal ceremony by dropping water on that Chinese female offcial's head. Why didn't I hear any strong voice from organizer?
=========================================
陈中遭改判无奈无缘奖牌 陈立人:一切以大局为重
2008-08-24 02:54:22 来源: 网易体育 作者：网易奥运报道联盟专稿 网友评论 0 条 进入论坛
特派记者 林大为
就昨天发生的陈中遭改判无缘卫冕冠军事件，记者采访了中国跆拳道队温籍总教练陈立人，陈立人说，中国队之所以未提出申诉，完全是出于比赛圆满结束的大局考虑。
在昨天的跆拳道女子67公斤以上级的四分之一决赛中，陈中以1比0战胜了英国选手史蒂文森，但赛后，英国队提出上诉，他们认为英国选手的一记下劈踢到了陈中头部，应该得到2分。裁判委员会经过观看录像回放，认为英国选手史蒂文森进攻有效，因为跆拳道比赛中击中对手头部将得到2分，因此比赛改判为英国选手2比1获胜。
但史蒂文森在随后的半决赛中负于墨西哥选手，使陈中失去了争夺铜牌的机会，而她在此后的比赛中获得了胜利，赢得了英国历史上第一块奥运会跆拳道奖牌。
赛后记者采访了中国跆拳道队温籍总教练陈立人，他说，他从事跆拳道十多年了，从未见过比赛结束后还要改判，他还透露跆拳道跟其他项目一样，场上裁判的判决是最终的判决。那中国队未何不提出申诉呢？陈立人说，完全是为了比赛能圆满结束。“如果我们提出申诉，比赛就不能按时完成，这就会影响大局，我们是东道主啊。如果这场比赛是外国比，我们肯定会提出申诉的。再说中国代表团已夺得了这么多金牌，也不缺这一块金牌。只是委屈了陈中。”
言语中，陈立人也隐隐透露，裁判有帮英国队的意思，英国队是下届奥运会的东道主，从未夺得过奥运会跆拳道的奖牌，而中国队本届奥运会已夺得一金一铜，为了平衡，也为了英国跆拳道的发展，裁判敢冒天下之大不韪，进行赛后改判。“如果是赛中改判，以陈中的实力还是有机会扳回来的。当然，我们自己也有不足，如果大比分领先，这2分改判也就无济于事了。”
“基本完成任务”
谈到本届奥运会中国跆拳道队的成绩，陈立人说：“女子争取金牌，男子实现奖牌突破，我们基本完成任务，但没有像举重、体操、跳水等项目那样超额完成任务。”
从跆拳道2000年悉尼奥运会成为正式比赛项目后，中国队是一届一个台阶，悉尼获得一金，雅典夺得两金，本届奥运会虽然只获得一金一铜，但这一金是女子小级别第一次夺冠，而一铜是男子的第一枚奖牌。如果不是陈中遭改判，中国队可以拿到二金一铜，这样的成绩就更完美了。
对于中国跆拳道队近三届奥运会取得的成绩，陈立人说，主要原因是中国队充分发挥了团队精神，“另外我们坚持走自己的路，还有就是发扬创新精神。”有了这样的成绩，陈立人对中国跆拳道更加有信心了，他说，相信在年轻教练的带领下，中国队会扩大优势的。
“先好好休息一下”
从陈立人的语气中，记者听出了他已荫生退意。从1987年做中国拳击队主教练至今，陈立人已在教练一线干了20多年，“我已参加过5届奥运会，是该休息休息了。”陈立人说。
1991年出任中国跆拳道队主教练，1995年升任总教练来，陈立人一直致力于中国跆拳道运动的普及和发展，从当初的一穷二白到如今国家队里人才济济，而跆拳道热也遍布大江南北，陈立人可以安心地离开了。至于自己的去向，陈立人说：“奥运会刚刚才结束，还没来得及仔细考虑，先好好休息一段时间再说吧，到时回温州我们再慢慢聊吧。”
以下是连接 http://2008.163.com/08/0824/02/4K331TQ6007425UH.html
====================================================
Once he had recovered, he found himself being dragged away from media interviews by overzealous Chinese marshals. A scuffle broke out, in which Davies’s coach Kevin Renshaw, and Michael Scott, Britain’s performance director, shouted at the marshals to “keep your hands off him – do not touch him.” The female marshal then shouted at Davies, who broke off from being interviewed to say: “Just shut up!” She did no such thing but before she knew it, Davies had splashed water in her face from the drinks bottle he was carrying. Scott joked: “He was just shaking a champagne bottle, nothing more than that.”
翻译：8月21日，英国选手戴维·戴维斯在顺义奥林匹克水上公园进行的北京奥运会男子10公里马拉松游泳比赛中获得第二名。爬上岸后，戴维斯整个人瘫倒在岸上，好似昏睡过去。奥运会医护人员赶紧过来检查，然后把他抬上担架。过了一段时间，戴维斯恢复过来，说自己没事儿。此时，已经有很多英国媒体记者为上来采访。戴维斯精神头来了，说自己上岸后只是想躺下来睡会儿，没想到“中国佬竟把自己弄到担架上去了”。
这时比赛早已结束，原定11:50的颁奖仪式也耽误了，所有的人都在等候戴维斯一人。义务工作人员催促了好几次，偏偏戴维斯兴致来了，还对着众多英国媒体喋喋不休。一位女义工以为戴维斯没听到，上前轻拉他的衣袖，这可惹恼了一旁的教练Kevin Renshaw，和英国队的主管Michael Scott。两人大叫“放开手，不许碰他!”(keep your hands off him – do not touch him)。
女义工继续催促，要戴维斯停止采访去参加颁奖仪式。这回可惹火了戴维斯，转身冲着女义大叫“闭嘴”(Will you shut up?)。戴维斯觉得还不解气，顺手一瓶水全浇在女工的脸上，惹得旁边一群人哈哈大笑。戴维斯这才结束采访，乐呵呵地去参加颁奖仪式。
英国水上项目主管Michael Scott笑称，“没什么，这瓶水只当是庆祝胜利的香槟。” （He was just shaking a champagne bottle, nothing more than that.）
Davies makes a splash in more ways than one - Aquatics, Olympics - The Independent
After taking on board sugar, Davies was ready to face the press. He was speaking happily and articulately in the “mix zone” about his experience when an official - a Chinese woman for whom the adjective “overzealous” might have been invented - barked repeatedly in his ear in Chinese and tried to manhandle him away.
“Will you shut up, please?” he asked her at first. More hassling followed. More barking. Then a tug on Davies' arm. “Will you take your hands off me, please?” asked Davies.
The official wanted him to head to the nearby podium but the medal ceremony was still 10 minutes away and Davies talked on. He was grabbed again. “Touch me one more time,” the mild-mannered Davies warned. And then the official touched him one more time, barking louder.
Davies had a plastic bottle of Evian in his hand. He turned. A moment later his bottle was less full. It was raining hard, but not all the water on the official's head was rain. No complaints were made. And certainly not from any spectators.
