紧急求助！！！！@

[househouse]

very helpful information about appearance in court.
Based your comment on court, it sounds like the fact is not really important. It's more about your experience and expression and behavior in court, which I think is true.

It's not what I said is the same with the teenager, it's I just stated what I have did, and never blame or comment the other party. Probably I gave the impression to the police that I agree whatever he said?

PS,I think the officer assumed I am a female Asian G1 driver, must be all my fault. She never mention this, not even asked "are you on G1 license?" but I know this definitively affected her judgment.

这个问题 3C 和在下都问过, 没有得到回答, 其实,没有回答也是一种回答.

在下不认为LZ naive and sometimes too simple, 比较执着.

既然这么执着,为何最关键的第一时间没和警察说上话?我不认为LZ英文交流有问题,有可能LZ当时说的和对方说得比较一致,警察认为LZ有错. 对方是18岁,很容易让警察认为超速的.

如果事实是LZ车在右道走了一会被撞,根本不可能算LZ错,100%是对方追尾错,都完成换道了,信号根本不是问题

现在似乎是为了上庭而修改口供和事实,那,有意思,有用吗? 诸位上过庭的说有用吗?不要凭想象.

在下和警察打过太多次交道,从开始害怕到后来谈笑风声,有成功(警察放我一马)有失败(上庭),都是超速(太多次了,没办法)

通常上庭时,一帮老外,都很有经验,一看警察来了,法官一问,就说认罚,求减免.如果警察没来,就赢了,我算看明白了,就是赌警察不来. 第一轮法官这么处理完,差不多一小时,

这时有两三个人不服的,警察也来的,换一个庭,小一些,正归一些,法庭会指派一人帮你(不是翻译),这人会劝你认输,说如果你赢不了,可能会罚你更多.在下想来都来了,时间也浪费了,干到地吧,最多多花钱,学点知识.

先是警察走到前面那个位子,按这圣经宣誓,然后非常有经验陈述,靠,我听了都觉得无无懈可击
然后是我,以前也上过庭,但都是第一轮要么警察没来,要么认罚了,这次是真干,一点规矩也不懂,比如问候法官啦,比如倒着走,始终面对法官啦,首先就露了怯,输了一步,后来宣誓也不会,只好法官说一句我说一句,总之,轮到自己陈述时,已经没了那心劲了,最后输了.

另外一老外上去也输了

事后,总结一下,发现,跟本赢不了,警察太专业了,咱们太业余了,嘴巴说没用,你没证据. 还是老外从小在这有经验,在第一轮认罪,然后陈述自己理由,然后减免. 你不认罪,真的进入第二轮(法官也换了),那就是靠证据,如果只是嘴巴说,有戏吗?

 

[ccc]

The accident might have taken place around "1501" Merivale Road as shown in the map below.

 

[househouse]

142 (1) 包括了:

Turn – not in safety
Change lane – not in safety
Fail to signal for turn
Fail to signal lane change 等

我的感觉警察给罚单是基于" 连续变两条线", 否则LZ错的成分不多. 要有充分证据说明没连续变线比较重要.

exactly, that's what the other party told the police. which is not true.

 

[会摇尾巴的狼]

你看了我给出的航拍图了吗？:flaming:

你没有明说事故发生地的准确位置是LZ告诉你的，我只能认为你猜的。你是当事人？


另外，即使没有事故，警察也是可以抓“failling to signal”的

就比如，你在highway上走正选曲线连续换线玩，即使没有事故，警察也是可以给你ticket的。

警察现在是根本不给你谈路权的机会。

这些与本案无关。 不过这类罚单是要抓现行的， 不能用第三方证词。

 

[househouse]

你准备在法庭反控警察种族歧视和性别歧视两大重罪吗？

May I?
Do u think that thing doesn't even exist?

 

[会摇尾巴的狼]

142 (1) 包括了:

Turn – not in safety
Change lane – not in safety
Fail to signal for turn
Fail to signal lane change 等

我的感觉警察给罚单是基于" 连续变两条线", 否则LZ错的成分不多. 要有充分证据说明没连续变线比较重要.

对头， TD 票据是备用的， 是用来反驳对方" 连续变两条线"的指控的。

 

[ccc]

very helpful information about appearance in court.
Based your comment on court, it sounds like the fact is not really important. It's more about your experience and expression and behavior in court, which I think is true.

It's not what I said is the same with the teenager, it's I just stated what I have did, and never blame or comment the other party. Probably I gave the impression to the police that I agree whatever he said?

PS,I think the officer assumed I am a female Asian G1 driver, must be all my fault. She never mention this, not even asked "are you on G1 license?" but I know this definitively affected her judgment.

不客气地讲，到现在你还不得要领。

你上面说的这些，也只能在这里说说而已。对法官说这些，没有任何意义；在法官面前批评警察也未必合适。

你须要搞清楚的和说清楚的是( and I quote "shoppingcart"):

"你应该从情绪化，主观想象或主观判断中走出来。

你应该抛开枝节，针对主题（142(1)）。

你需要在法庭上拿出无可辩驳的直接事实，或逻辑判断（不是主观判断），说服法官，警官的结论是错误，或者警官形成结论的过程/方法是错误的。"

 

[会摇尾巴的狼]

如果事故另一方说搂主没打信号突然减速换线，搂主也自供说：“I turned signal while I turned the ..."呢？

对方必需保持足够车距， 以应对任何突发事件。否则一切责任由后面的车负责。

 

[ccc]

May I?
Do u think that thing doesn't even exist?

你去那里的目的是什么？不是想起诉警员吧？

 

[ccc]

你怎么总是抓不住要点？！

你说说，你是在图中的A点，还是B点，或者其他地方change lane的？

The accident might have happened around "1501" Merivale Road. It would be helpful if you could get a satelite photo further down (south ward) to show the "1501" section of that road. (Many thanks!)

 

[ccc]

对头， TD 票据是备用的， 是用来反驳对方" 连续变两条线"的指控的。

没用!

 

[ccc]

对方必需保持足够车距， 以应对任何突发事件。否则一切责任由后面的车负责。

Didn't you notice this?

"I turned signal while I turned the ..." , which means that LZ failed to signal before ....

 

[会摇尾巴的狼]

因为你和雪美女没有弄懂LZ拥有中线路权在本案中的重要性。

 

[会摇尾巴的狼]

Didn't you notice this?

"I turned signal while I turned the ..." , which means that LZ failed to signal before ....

It does not matter.

It is the other vehicle's solely responsibility to keep enough distance such that he can slow down to avoid any urgent situations.

But if that car is in the right lane, it will be a different case then.

 

[Ayin_Ottawa]

PS,I think the officer assumed I am a female Asian G1 driver, must be all my fault. She never mention this, not even asked "are you on G1 license?" but I know this definitively affected her judgment.

Sound likes that you are more and more confused and confusing, sometimes living in your own imagination.

Please remember in a case where he says and she says, people tend to accept the statement whose explanation makes common sense and tend to accept the basic facts, even though faked, which make common sense.

Anyway, be calm and be firm to CLEARLY state your actions in court, DO NOT suggest that others are racists or sexists unless you want to draw this simple accident into a bigger war.

In the opinion of CFC communities, unfortunately, you lost again. So, good luck in your third try,in court.