请问一下打H1N1疫苗是打Adjuvanted 还是 unadjuvanted的好?
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谢谢 zaoqi，unadjuvanted vaccine 上个星期已经开放给所有人了
根据recommendations: http://ottawa.ca/residents/health/c...eventing_germs/vaccine_safety_en.html#P8_1203, 我是属于:
Age 10 years to 64 years
Healthy people
1 dose either adjuvanted* or unadjuvanted vaccine
可以选择 adjuvanted 或 unadjuvanted , 有打过unadjuvanted 的吗？
根据recommendations: http://ottawa.ca/residents/health/c...eventing_germs/vaccine_safety_en.html#P8_1203, 我是属于:
Age 10 years to 64 years
Healthy people
1 dose either adjuvanted* or unadjuvanted vaccine
可以选择 adjuvanted 或 unadjuvanted , 有打过unadjuvanted 的吗？
unadjuvanted 有效率副作用小于 Adjuvanted
得了H1N1会死掉的机率很小(X%%%)，而且多数是并发症。打了疫苗产生有效免疫力也只有40-70%。你有幸属于X%%%会死掉；打了疫苗后3周，又没有被H1N1感染；又属于40-70%产生有效免疫力的那一类；小命可以保住。这是好的。
另一方面，打了疫苗后很多人的反映就象是感冒。其实本来你未必定会有H1N1，真有H1N1症状也可能很轻微。打了疫苗后，需要3周才有H1N1的免疫，其间仍然会得得H1N1。而且因为短期内体质下降。得感冒（包括得H1N1），症状反而会加重。更不用说疫苗的毒副作用是未经充分临床检验的。
好好休息，保重身体。吃饱撑的，打疫苗去。
不知道您疫苗产生有效免疫力的数据从哪来？
According to the Ontario Agency for Health Protection and Promotion, in clinical studies, the immune response and blood markers of protection against the pH1N1virus following vaccination in healthy subjects aged 18-60 years were 85%/94% for the unadjuvanted and 97%/100% for the adjuvanted vaccine （http://www.ottawa.ca/residents/heal...preventing_germs/unadjuvanted_vaccine_en.html）
打疫苗是为了减少得病的机率，照您这么说，什么疫苗都不用打了。
现在的疫苗10天左右就能有免疫了。 短期内体质下降不知道您的根据是什么？
According to the Ontario Agency for Health Protection and Promotion, in clinical studies, the immune response and blood markers of protection against the pH1N1virus following vaccination in healthy subjects aged 18-60 years were 85%/94% for the unadjuvanted and 97%/100% for the adjuvanted vaccine （http://www.ottawa.ca/residents/heal...preventing_germs/unadjuvanted_vaccine_en.html）
打疫苗是为了减少得病的机率，照您这么说，什么疫苗都不用打了。
现在的疫苗10天左右就能有免疫了。 短期内体质下降不知道您的根据是什么？
哈哈，官方数据以政治为目的，那你瞎编的数据也是为了证明不打好吧。 怪不得声望是负的
H1N1危险性不大? 你怎么知道我没打普通流感疫苗？
就一两天体质下降，算不上短期，能够换来一年左右的免疫我还是会去打的
H1N1危险性不大? 你怎么知道我没打普通流感疫苗？
就一两天体质下降，算不上短期，能够换来一年左右的免疫我还是会去打的
别介。老大不小的，怎么一开口就是“你骗人，你骗人”。
政府的数据可能全部是真的。但对这些数据的解释和宣传则完全是出于政治考量。天下乌鸦一般。到那里都不能拿党和政府的话太当真。数据其实很不好编的。数据实在太多，有效也的标准不同。放狗搜了一个给你。就到这里
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/vaccineeffect.htm
你的数据编 from the data for elderly persons?
今天已达24例了。
http://healthandfitness.sympatico.ca...=abc&date=True
PHAC confirms 24 cases of anaphylaxis across Canada after H1N1 flu shots
25/11/2009 6:29:00 PM
Helen Branswell, Medical Reporter, THE CANADIAN PRESS
TORONTO - There have been 24 confirmed cases of a type of severe allergic reaction called anaphylaxis in Canadians who have received an H1N1 flu shot, including one person who died after getting vaccinated, the head of the Public Health Agency of Canada said Wednesday.
http://healthandfitness.sympatico.ca...=abc&date=True
PHAC confirms 24 cases of anaphylaxis across Canada after H1N1 flu shots
25/11/2009 6:29:00 PM
Helen Branswell, Medical Reporter, THE CANADIAN PRESS
TORONTO - There have been 24 confirmed cases of a type of severe allergic reaction called anaphylaxis in Canadians who have received an H1N1 flu shot, including one person who died after getting vaccinated, the head of the Public Health Agency of Canada said Wednesday.
