有关联邦自由党的一些传言

[wpolar_bearx]

总是觉得现任联邦自由党的行事风格同Jean Chrétien, Paul Martin 的联邦自由党的风格有相当的不同。Trudeau想干啥就干啥没有什么制约。内阁除了Ralph-Goodale还能算有经验的, 别人也就那么回事。比Chrétien时的内阁真差的多。

近来听魁北克知道点的人讲: Stéphane Dion 是被Trudeau 远远的踢到EU去的。Dion是Chrétien用的人。他在打击魁独提出Clarity Act 维护加拿大统一帮联邦自由党政府渡过困难时刻出过大力。在Paul Martin时期Dion接的是环境部。在制定Kyoto implementation strategy时保护了加拿大的油气产业, Dion是有功劳的。

Trudeau一黄口小儿不识天高地厚把老大们没放眼里, 老大们也拿他没办法。但老大们的人脉和资源Trudeau也就沾不上边了。

 

[无耻的校长]

反党言论! 反自由党?





山东大学教授孙文广在接受美国之音采访的时候，中国8名警察破门而入
http://bbs.comefromchina.com/threads/1642643/

 

[无耻的校长]

抹黑加国元首，如果在reddit上发表，会不会被变成泼墨女



Montreal man charged with posting hate messages on social media, threatening Justin Trudeau
https://nationalpost.com/news/canad...es-on-social-media-threatening-justin-trudeau
A Verdun resident has been charged with posting hate messages on social media, while also uttering threats toward Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

Jacques Roy, 47, appeared before a Quebec Court judge on Saturday after he turned himself in to the Montreal police on June 30, said Montreal police spokesperson Constable Jean-Pierre Brabant. Roy was released after agreeing to follow a series of conditions, and his case is scheduled to return to court on Oct. 3.

Brabant said the investigation began on March 26 after someone contacted the Montreal police and reported statements they had read on a social media page. The police investigated and found statements that were hateful toward Muslims, Islam and people from Syria. The author of the statements included Trudeau in some of what he posted, Brabant said.

An arrest warrant was issued on June 16 and the Montreal police were able to contact Roy for the first time last week. He agreed to turn himself in, with a lawyer, and was detained before he appeared in court.

The arrest warrant was made public at the Montreal courthouse over the weekend. In the warrant, Roy is accused of “encouraging hatred against an identifiable group.” The charges are based on statements Roy allegedly made between Feb. 1 and March 26, in a manner “other than a private conversation.” He is also accused of criminal harassment and uttering a threat toward Trudeau and “a member of his family” within the same time frame.

In February 2013, Roy was charged with assaulting a police officer. The charged was placed under a stay of proceedings the day after it was filed. On that same date, Roy pleaded guilty to willfully obstructing police in the execution of their duty. He was sentenced to one year of probation. Later on, in November 2013, Roy pleaded guilty to drug possession, and his sentence involved an unconditional discharge.

Montreal Gazette

 

[YINGWA]

总是觉得现任联邦自由党的行事风格同Jean Chrétien, Paul Martin 的联邦自由党的风格有相当的不同。Trudeau想干啥就干啥没有什么制约。内阁除了Ralph-Goodale还能算有经验的, 别人也就那么回事。比Chrétien时的内阁真差的多。
近来听魁北克知道点的人讲: Stéphane Dion 是被Trudeau 远远的踢到EU去的。Dion是Chrétien用的人。他在打击魁独提出Clarity Act 维护加拿大统一帮联邦自由党政府渡过困难时刻出过大力。在Paul Martin时期Dion接的是环境部。在制定Kyoto implementation strategy时保护了加拿大的油气产业, Dion是有功劳的。

Trudeau一黄口小儿不识天高地厚把老大们没放眼里, 老大们也拿他没办法。但老大们的人脉和资源Trudeau也就沾不上边了。

New book reveals Trudeau’s frosty relationship with Stéphane Dion
https://nationalpost.com/news/polit...ls-his-frosty-relationship-with-stephane-dion
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OTTAWA — A book lambasting Justin Trudeau’s approach to foreign policy and exposing his frosty relationship with Stéphane Dion has been making waves in Quebec.

Author Jocelyn Coulon, a prominent figure in Canada’s international affairs community, was an adviser to Dion when he served as Trudeau’s foreign minister.

His French-language book, titled “Un selfie avec Justin Trudeau,” has attracted significant attention in Quebec media over the past few days. It landed Coulon on popular talk show Tout le monde en parle (“everybody’s talking about it”) on Sunday, which draws more than a million viewers every week.

The Post’s Marie-Danielle Smith has compiled the most interesting tidbits.
Trudeau and Dion didn’t get along, or even talk to each other

Un selfie avec Justin Trudeau by Jocelyn Coulon. Handout
he frosty relationship between Dion and Trudeau — “glacial,” as Coulon puts it — goes way back.

Quoting from Trudeau’s own autobiography, Coulon theorizes that in 2006, then-leader Dion’s chilly reception to Trudeau’s political candidacy left wounds that would never heal. Dion rebuffed Trudeau’s first attempt at securing a nomination in the Montreal riding of Outremont. Then he stood in the way again with a second attempt in Papineau — but this time Trudeau succeeded, ultimately getting elected.

The two would never be close. And in the early days of the Trudeau government, the rumour about town, Coulon says, was that Dion’s convictions and combative style led to much sparring around the cabinet table, bringing some of the other ministers — described by Coulon as Trudeau acolytes — to tears.

The only private meeting Trudeau had with Dion was when he fired him

The not-so-friendly relationship resulted in a highly unusual situation: the prime minister never privately spoke with his first foreign minister about the direction of the country, Coulon writes, and even seemed to consider it a symbolic appointment.

All of Dion’s attempts to schedule a rendez-vous with Trudeau failed. There were multiple rifts between Dion and other officials on the wording of speeches. During one of the only conversations that Coulon recalls Dion and Trudeau having — on a government jet, with others present — Trudeau is described as “irritated” by Dion’s strong opinions on foreign policy, and in particular his insistence on rapprochement with Russia.

The only private meeting they had, on Jan. 6, 2017, lasted five minutes. Coulon reconstructs the scene. Trudeau offered Dion, who had worried for weeks that he would be ousted, dual ambassadorship to Germany and the European Union — a “stupid idea,” Coulon writes, which raised immediate backlash. (Eventually the EU position would be minimized to a “special adviser” role.) When Dion asked why he was being sidelined, Trudeau said he needed “change.”
After that encounter, Dion sent away his driver and hopped on a bus back to Montreal. Upon hearing this news, his mentor, former PM Jean Chrétien, was “furious.” But he didn’t succeed in changing Trudeau’s mind.

In his TV appearance Sunday, Coulon downplayed a question about other concerns around Dion — his less-than-perfect English, for example — and said that Trudeau’s reasons for the dismissal were “totally absurd.”

Trudeau and his inner circle don’t seem to care about foreign policy
Coulon describes Trudeau as a man “incurious about the affairs of the world,” and a leader more influenced by surveys and media than by the advice of his ambassadors and diplomats.

Trudeau leaned heavily on his first foreign policy adviser, the University of Ottawa’s Roland Paris, Coulon writes. But when Paris didn’t seem to fit in with his inner circle, he was shuffled out within a year.

That crowd of insiders, by Coulon’s estimation, care “not at all” about questions of international policy.

A UN Security Council seat is going to take a lot of work

Coulon sat in meetings with Dion and about 30 foreign ministers as Canada began its campaign, early on in the Trudeau government, to seek a temporary United Nations Security Council seat in 2020-21. A solid half of the ministers offered a positive response to the Canadian attempt, he writes. But there were also “a lot of negative and indecisive responses.”

The previous Conservative government, under Stephen Harper, lost Canada a seat on the council for the first time since 1946. When he was elected, Trudeau promised to do things differently enough that this wouldn’t happen again. But the Trudeau government has shown more continuity than rupture, Coulon opines, with its predecessor.

“Every day that passes reveals the decreasing weight of Canada in the world,” he writes in the book’s conclusion. ” It is not by repeating slogans on the benefits of the status quo and by staying passive in front of the world that Canada will make itself essential.”
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Justin Trudeau’s ‘peoplekind’ remark draws ridicule in U.S. and U.K. media

https://globalnews.ca/news/4009843/justin-trudeau-peoplekind-piers-morgan/
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Ivison: Trudeau may feel like Achilles, but his heel of entitlement was pierced after conflict of interest ruling

https://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/j...ling/wcm/bde3d406-a599-498b-ba48-b88858d65ea8
( Interesting Reference: http://www.parli.ca/im-entitled-to-my-entitlements/)
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"Get the fuck out of my way": Trudeau, Mulcair, others in Commons uproar
http://www.southcoasttoday.ca/content/get-fuck-out-my-way-trudeau-mulcair-others-commons-uproar

 

[GuardianAngel]

总是觉得现任联邦自由党的行事风格同Jean Chrétien, Paul Martin 的联邦自由党的风格有相当的不同。Trudeau想干啥就干啥没有什么制约。内阁除了Ralph-Goodale还能算有经验的, 别人也就那么回事。比Chrétien时的内阁真差的多。

近来听魁北克知道点的人讲: Stéphane Dion 是被Trudeau 远远的踢到EU去的。Dion是Chrétien用的人。他在打击魁独提出Clarity Act 维护加拿大统一帮联邦自由党政府渡过困难时刻出过大力。在Paul Martin时期Dion接的是环境部。在制定Kyoto implementation strategy时保护了加拿大的油气产业, Dion是有功劳的。

Trudeau一黄口小儿不识天高地厚把老大们没放眼里, 老大们也拿他没办法。但老大们的人脉和资源Trudeau也就沾不上边了。

Trudeau 的联邦自由党没法同Jean Chrétien, Paul Martin 时的联邦自由党比。

一个卖国，一个爱国。
一个地下，一个天上。

 

[GuardianAngel]

与土豆有接触的工作人员说他是jerk, 說他是双臉人。在media 前见的土豆，与他在政府內部工作及开会的工作人员面前，是判若两人，講粗口，一奌都不斯文。

一点不奇怪。

 

[A Special Day]

总是觉得现任联邦自由党的行事风格同Jean Chrétien, Paul Martin 的联邦自由党的风格有相当的不同。Trudeau想干啥就干啥没有什么制约。内阁除了Ralph-Goodale还能算有经验的, 别人也就那么回事。比Chrétien时的内阁真差的多。

近来听魁北克知道点的人讲: Stéphane Dion 是被Trudeau 远远的踢到EU去的。Dion是Chrétien用的人。他在打击魁独提出Clarity Act 维护加拿大统一帮联邦自由党政府渡过困难时刻出过大力。在Paul Martin时期Dion接的是环境部。在制定Kyoto implementation strategy时保护了加拿大的油气产业, Dion是有功劳的。

Trudeau一黄口小儿不识天高地厚把老大们没放眼里, 老大们也拿他没办法。但老大们的人脉和资源Trudeau也就沾不上边了。

保守党看好他是理所当然。如果他继续当自由党的头，哈勃再赢一届毫无疑问。

 

[A Special Day]

这是CBC新闻? 批土豆算了，竟然挺 保守党。
土豆到了墙倒众人推的情节了，自己队伍都要反水了。

浏览附件777772

CBC又不是THE REBEL.

 

[uglyducking]

说好的言论自由呢？泥马挺土豆就是左媒，批土豆就是反水？cow！

 

[无耻的校长]

x
叫马户hee – haw

近日，47岁的加拿大蒙特利尔男子Jacques Roy被警方逮捕及控罪，原因是他在社交网络上发布了针对总理小杜鲁多的仇恨言论。

3月26日，有人联络蒙特利尔警方称，他们在社交网络上看到针对穆斯林、伊斯兰教和叙利亚难民的言论，于是展开调查。警方发言人Brabant表示，他们在查看此人页面时还发现了有关总理小杜鲁多的一些文字。

6月16日，蒙特利尔警方正式下达了逮捕令。6月底，警方第一次联系上Roy。随后Roy同意自首，并且被拘留。

在逮捕令中，Roy被控“煽动针对特定群体的仇恨”、“对总理极其家庭成员的骚扰和威胁”等罪名。目前，Roy被保释，并将于10月3日再次出庭。

mmj053
2016-07-09
#5
所以说，在加拿大言论自由也是有限制的，只有家园网可以乱喷，因为有乱喷的网管。不中立。

秦砖汉瓦
知名园友
2011-08-12
12,506
23,313
2016-07-09
#9
说好的普世价值呢？说好的言论自由民主自由呢？

韶华竟白头
园友
2015-11-06
46
33
2016-07-09
#26
这个笨家伙相信真有民主、人权、言论自由
http://forum.iask.ca/threads/评论-加拿大男网上骂穆斯林-骂杜鲁多被捕.796978/page-2



在政治正确的大前提下,一切法律都是狗屁

日裔加拿大人囚禁（英语：Japanese Canadian internment）是指第二次世界大戰期間加拿大對日裔加拿大人在哥倫比亞省的囚禁和拘留，於1942年1月開始[1]。日本於1941年偷袭珍珠港后，加拿大联邦政府出于安全理由，同时也是对日本进攻香港的报复（加拿大派遣近2千士兵协助駐港英军，绝大部分殉職），于1942年開始对于日裔进行拘留，有20,881人被关押在集中营或者其他地方，当中75%被关押日裔为加拿大公民。美国亦针对当地的日裔施以类似措施。縱然皇家加拿大騎警和國防部門缺乏證據，加拿大聯邦政府仍然以破壞和間諜活動為理由拘留了他們。[2]:12許多孩子在這些難民營中上課，包括大衞·鈴木、喜悅小川（英语：Joy Kogawa）、三木羅伊（英语：Roy Miki）。加拿大聯邦政府承諾將釋放日裔加拿大人後，能取回自己的財產；然而，加拿大在拍賣中拋售上述資產。[3]

日裔加拿大人囚禁
Japanese Canadian internment

 

[无耻的校长]

http://www.meishij.net/zuofa/qingjiaochaolvrou.html

 

[wpolar_bearx]

保守党看好他是理所当然。如果他继续当自由党的头，哈勃再赢一届毫无疑问。

自由党内的精英们有情绪是很正常的。但能否有人操盘调动党内的传统力量拨乱反正就不好讲了。自由党的百年基业重要还是赢得下届重要? 当前自由党的支持力量是Chrétien时期留下的政治遗产。Trudeau再无节制的闹下去这遗产就被散光了。M-103就是自由党被后座议员带了节奏。
老哈最近没闲着备战大选以然展开。如果Quebec 的 CAQ当选民意就倾向于保守了

 

[A Special Day]

自由党内的精英们有情绪是很正常的。但能否有人操盘调动党内的传统力量拨乱反正就不好讲了。自由党的百年基业重要还是赢得下届重要? 当前自由党的支持力量是Chrétien时期留下的政治遗产。Trudeau再无节制的闹下去这遗产就被散光了。M-103就是自由党被后座议员带了节奏。
老哈最近没闲着备战大选以然展开。如果Quebec 的 CAQ当选民意就倾向于保守了

自由党的百年基业就一定要和赢得下届 对立？哪个党领或者政纲左一点右一点都没什么不正常的。

 

[ccc]

保守党看好他是理所当然。如果他继续当自由党的头，哈勃再赢一届毫无疑问。

Stéphane Dion? 好人，不适合当政客。

 

[A Special Day]

Stéphane Dion? 好人，不适合当政客。

还记得当年想要组建联合政府时他录的那段发言，就像是BASEMENT的产品。