If the Chinese government would have taken early precautions, the world would not have been suffering a lot. What are your thoughts?

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Since China announced the epidemic on January 20 and blocked Wuhan on January 23, have other countries made any preparations within 50 days?Let's use logic to analyze.

The Chinese government was the first to learn about the emergence of a new disease on December 28, 2019. (Before that, some doctors encountered some patients, but they did not report to the government. Doctor Zhang Jixian, who first reported the case, encountered such a patient on December 26. She reported to the hospital on the 27th and the hospital to the government on the 28th. )

On December 30, the coronavirus was discovered.

On December 31, the Chinese government reported new diseases to the WHO.

On January 7, 2020, Chinese doctors announced the genetic sequence of the virus.

Until mid-January, epidemiologists in China were debating whether the disease would continue to spread from person to person.

On January 20, the Chinese government announced to the world that the disease will continue to spread from person to person.

So, has the Chinese government concealed the epidemic? Obviously not, you can't announce things that you don't know about yourself, and you can't announce things that medical experts haven't concluded. Chinese epidemiologists are actually investigating a virus that they have never seen before. They didn't know what it was and what nature it was.

The only thing that can prove that China is not doing well is that it took epidemiologists 20 days to confirm that the disease will continue to spread from person to person, and you can claim that they are inefficient.

So even if Chinese epidemiologists are more efficient, maybe they can find that the disease will continue to spread from person to person 10 days in advance. I believe no one can do it more efficiently. You can't fully understand a disease the first day it appears.

So, if the Chinese government declared the disease infectious on January 10, would they be able to avoid a pandemic?

Since China announced the epidemic on January 20 and blocked Wuhan on January 23, have other countries made any preparations within 50 days?

They did nothing, they just laughed at China.

Even if Chinese epidemiologists announced the epidemic on January 10, there might be fewer people sick in China. But for other countries, the results will not be different. The only difference is that they will laugh more at China for 10 days.
 

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Since China announced the epidemic on January 20 and blocked Wuhan on January 23, have other countries made any preparations within 50 days?Let's use logic to analyze.

The Chinese government was the first to learn about the emergence of a new disease on December 28, 2019. (Before that, some doctors encountered some patients, but they did not report to the government. Doctor Zhang Jixian, who first reported the case, encountered such a patient on December 26. She reported to the hospital on the 27th and the hospital to the government on the 28th. )

On December 30, the coronavirus was discovered.

On December 31, the Chinese government reported new diseases to the WHO.

On January 7, 2020, Chinese doctors announced the genetic sequence of the virus.

Until mid-January, epidemiologists in China were debating whether the disease would continue to spread from person to person.

On January 20, the Chinese government announced to the world that the disease will continue to spread from person to person.

So, has the Chinese government concealed the epidemic? Obviously not, you can't announce things that you don't know about yourself, and you can't announce things that medical experts haven't concluded. Chinese epidemiologists are actually investigating a virus that they have never seen before. They didn't know what it was and what nature it was.

The only thing that can prove that China is not doing well is that it took epidemiologists 20 days to confirm that the disease will continue to spread from person to person, and you can claim that they are inefficient.

So even if Chinese epidemiologists are more efficient, maybe they can find that the disease will continue to spread from person to person 10 days in advance. I believe no one can do it more efficiently. You can't fully understand a disease the first day it appears.

So, if the Chinese government declared the disease infectious on January 10, would they be able to avoid a pandemic?

Since China announced the epidemic on January 20 and blocked Wuhan on January 23, have other countries made any preparations within 50 days?

They did nothing, they just laughed at China.

Even if Chinese epidemiologists announced the epidemic on January 10, there might be fewer people sick in China. But for other countries, the results will not be different. The only difference is that they will laugh more at China for 10 days.


Well said.
 

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那时候除了东亚国家,其它地区都没意识到严重性。
 

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美国搞成这样,总统仍然理直气壮地说不是我们的错,是中国的错。几个月前华莱士问过总统,副总统辩论的第一个问题也是:为什么很多其他国家比美国做得好?
 

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实际各国想弄明白的是,病毒究竟从哪里来的,为什么疫情首先在武汉爆发。总是左顾而言它,回避问题,只能引起别人更大的怀疑。如果没有故意隐瞒什么,逻辑上讲,中国应该是最想知道答案的。
 

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世人都想知道答案,

在座的,多数都会有可能横死,如果这一次找不到答案的话。
 
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中国有错,西方也有错。

两种文明都已经腐朽。

要么相互学习,相互转化,交合,
要么一方干掉另一方, 然后继续腐朽。

老闯,就是时势造就的英雄。他的任务实际上已经完成。打破这两种文明的虚伪表象。

现在,很简单,是一方屈服,还是双方都变革。

听说中国有意图部分放开youtube。

这是一个有意思的步骤。

1. 说明中国视频音频分析的AI已经成熟,AI过滤youtube视频已经技术上可行。
2. 说明中国知道,慢慢放开,是不可避免的。
 

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2003年SARS 爆发的短短几个月后,大陆就报道了“毒王”(人人传染的源头)和自然病毒的源头(宿主)果子狸。现在技术和防控手段提高了不少,而且大陆声称已经取得了病毒战役的大胜。

这次病毒爆发已经10个月多了,有人看到过大陆病毒感染第一人(毒王)和宿主(野生动物)的报道?
 

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只有开头是实话,欧美各国从武汉封城开始算根本没当回事。
再往后就是不要脸的拖地了,是老中写的还是老外写的?
 

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看来,这一点,大家都一致。要找事实真相!

以后,谁说不想或者不必找源头宿主,过度物种,零号病人或者实验室源头的。或者直接结论说自然产生,而不去寻找这些路径的证据的,那么,

大家可以一致,管这种不是人的玩意



walking的臭肉, 或者说,狗日的东西。
 

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只有开头是实话,欧美各国从武汉封城开始算根本没当回事。
再往后就是不要脸的拖地了,是老中写的还是老外写的?


关键就是开头。
开头不当回事,后来当回事也晚了,况且川普一直都不当回事。
 

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从去年一波一波美国对中国的攻击,包括贸易战,香港暴乱,新疆台湾等等的对大陆扰乱,哪个没有美国间谍的影子?在中国春节人口大挪移的时候给中国来个病毒战,最大可能仍是美国间谍给中国下的套。美国有没有让其他国家去查查他们研究病毒方面的资料?估计有这个能力和动机的只有美国了。
 

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从去年一波一波美国对中国的攻击,包括贸易战,香港暴乱,新疆台湾等等的对大陆扰乱,哪个没有美国间谍的影子?在中国春节人口大挪移的时候给中国来个病毒战,最大可能仍是美国间谍给中国下的套。美国有没有让其他国家去查查他们研究病毒方面的资料?估计有这个能力和动机的只有美国了。


这个我信。
美国是无所不用其极。
估计查起来很难了。
 

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开头不当回事儿,有几种可能

1. 情报完全失误,西方信息分析彻底失败。这中失败很难说是中国还是美国造成的。毕竟情报界的尔虞我诈,老百姓无从知晓。
2. 傲慢到了,完全忽视第一手信息。主要是那些科学家,医学官僚。长时间错误引导西方防疫。而且,不会用日本军刀。
3. 过于相信WHO,而WHO直接导致延误报警和封边,

第三点,是事实。

第一点和第二点,都有一些。那一点更重要,还要等历史来评价。
 
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