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Brishti Basu · CBC News · Posted: Oct 20, 2023 4:00 AM EDT | Last Updated: October 20
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Dr. Ben Thomson, a nephrologist at Mackenzie Richmond Hill Hospital, has posted opinions on social media about the war between Israel and Hamas. Earlier this month, he was handed a one-month suspension, but the health authority said that 'it is false to suggest Dr. Thomson was suspended for his views.' (CBC)

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An Ontario doctor has been suspended from his job, threatened and had his address shared online after he posted pro-Palestinian views on social media.
Dr. Ben Thomson, a nephrologist at Mackenzie Richmond Hill Hospital, north of Toronto, has been sharing information and opinions on his X social media account, formerly known as Twitter, since brutal attacks by militant group Hamas in Israel on Oct. 7 and the ensuing Israeli bombing of Gaza.
On Oct. 12, Mackenzie Health posted a statement on its Facebook and X accounts saying it is "addressing social media posts from a few physicians and staff that do not reflect our views or values as an organization."
Some Facebook comments in response to this post called for Thomson to be fired. Internal emails seen by CBC News show that the doctor was handed a one-month suspension without pay the next day. But in a statement to CBC News, Mackenzie Health said that "it is false to suggest Dr. Thomson was suspended for his views," without elaborating.
The health authority's actions follow a number of complaints about the doctor's social media posts by colleagues online who disagreed with him, according to several doctors at the hospital. They also follow a threat made to the hospital on Thursday, a spokesperson for Mackenzie Health said.
The threat was made over the phone and recorded by hospital staff. A copy of this recording was shared with CBC News.
"This message is for Dr. Ben Thomson. Remove your post regarding Israel," a man's voice is heard saying in the recording. "It is disgusting, you are a disgusting human being, you do not know what you're saying, and if you do not remove it, I advise you and the rest of your staff to stay out of your office."
In addition to this threat, Thomson's home address was posted on a website where patients can rate physicians, along with further threats. These posts have since been deleted after Thomson made a request to the website for their removal, but they have prompted a police investigation and forced Thomson to leave his home on the advice of police.

Accusations on social media​

The X post that garnered controversy among Thomson's colleagues and appears to have played a role in his suspension involves his reply to another X post by the Centre for Israel and Jewish Affairs that claimed babies had been beheaded and women raped during the Hamas attack on several communities in southern Israel.
"No babies were beheaded, there have been no confirmed reports of rapes. You repeat this nonsense out of racism," Thomson wrote on Oct. 10. "In the meantime, Palestinians are experiencing genocide and war crimes and you are silent. History will judge you very badly."
Two days after his post, the White House, major media outlets and Israeli officials walked back their earlier reports of babies being beheaded at the hands of Hamas, saying these reports were unverified. Then two days after that, Israeli military teams said they found signs of rape and torture among Hamas's victims.
A screenshot of a Twitter post that screenshots another post within it.

A screenshot shows a social media post from Dr. Gil Nimni, Thomson's colleague, responding to Thomson's post on X, formerly known as Twitter. Nimni's X account has since been deleted. (Gil Nimin/X)
In response to Thomson's post, a doctor at Mackenzie Richmond Hill Hospital (whose X account is now deleted) accused him of denying the Holocaust, and another Ontario doctor criticized him publicly for denying "the trauma of the victims of these unspeakable crimes."
The post was also shared by an account called Documenting Antisemitism in Canada, which asked, "Do you trust this ghoul to provide safe patient care to Jewish patients?"
"Death of civilians is without a doubt horrible and unacceptable," Thomson wrote in response to one of his colleagues. "However, inciting genocide by dehumanizing Palestinians is also unacceptable."
The Hamas-run Health Ministry in Gaza said on Thursday that 3,785 Palestinians have been killed and 12,500 wounded from Israeli airstrikes. The Israeli government says more than 1,400 people were killed and about 200 taken as hostages to Gaza in the Oct. 7 attack on Israel by Hamas.


Doctor's public record with college is clean​

Doctors at Mackenzie Richmond Hill Hospital are not allowed to talk to the media without approval from their public relations team, but three who spoke to CBC News on condition of not being named said the atmosphere at the hospital is tense. They said they were all surprised by Thomson's abrupt suspension.
"I don't think Dr. Thomson was given a chance to defend himself or what, if any, due process was carried out," said one doctor who has worked with him for two years." Another said, "Doctors are being silenced for having an otherwise factual dialogue that is devoid of any hate. I find that to be very problematic."
Dr. Tarek Loubani, who works at London Health Sciences Centre in London, Ont., has known Thomson for more than a decade — both have worked in Gaza for periods of time, and Loubani was among 19 medics shot by the Israeli military in Gaza in 2018.
Prior to last week, he said, he had never heard any complaints against Thomson, let alone complaints about antisemitism.
"It would be so out of character because he's a person who's not connected in any way to the Israel-Palestine cause," Loubani told CBC News. "His connection is through his humanitarianism, which has led him to other parts of the world where he's run some very impressive projects, like his work in Uganda, his work obviously in Gaza and his work also with Indigenous communities in northern Canada."
Thomson's public record with the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario is also clean, with no complaints, allegations or disciplinary actions listed. The college said it would not answer questions about Thomson's suspension "due to confidentiality restrictions."
WATCH | Worldwide protests after deaths of Israeli and Palestinian civilians:

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Rallies are held across the globe for Israelis and Palestinians​


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Duration0:58
Demonstrators continue to gather in countries like Norway, Brazil and Greece in support of Israel following Hamas's deadly attacks on Oct. 7, while in places like France, the United States and here in Canada, crowds are standing in solidarity with Palestinians and criticizing Israel's military response.

Heightened security​

Mackenzie Health would not acknowledge or answer questions about Thomson's suspension other than its brief statement. In messages with CBC News, Thomson said he cannot comment on his suspension because "there is an active legal case around this."
However, the health authority said it has taken steps to strengthen security at the hospital as a result of this threat and because of "media reports of global online threats against the Jewish community."
"This included increasing the presence of security officers and restricting access to our hospitals to select entrances for patients and visitors," it wrote in a statement.
York Regional Police confirmed in an email to CBC News that "an investigation commenced regarding a report of a threat made against a doctor at a hospital" in York Region but would not share further information about the investigation.
After Thomson's address was posted online alongside threatening messages like "We know where you live and work pal. One eye open," he said police advised him to create a safety plan that includes staying away from home.
"I'm currently not staying at home due to my home address being posted with threats of violence, as well as the York Regional Police agreeing that not staying at home was a good idea, during discussions of a safety plan created as a result of the phone threats of violence and the online threats," Thomson wrote in a message sent through Signal, an encrypted messaging service, as a safety precaution.
"We stayed in a hotel the first night ... but have now moved into an apartment indefinitely, until we learn more regarding the outcome of the York Police investigation."
WATCH | Toronto groups mobilize to send aid to the Middle East:

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These Toronto organizations are lending their efforts to send aid to the Middle East​


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Duration2:09
As the Israel-Gaza conflict continues to unfold, aid groups in Toronto are responding to the worsening crisis. Tyler Cheese spoke to the leaders of two local organizations about what they’re doing to help — and the challenges they're facing.
Loubani said the swift action by the hospital is a rare occurrence reserved for egregious circumstances.
"The only time we ever see these sudden-death suspensions is when there's a criminal charge on a serious criminal offence, [like] sexual assault, murder, attempted murder," he said. "What I fear for other physicians is that they'll see Dr. Thomson's case, and they'll think to themselves, 'This means I should never say anything.'"
In the aftermath of Thomson's suspension and doxing, non-profit group Canadians for Justice and Peace in the Middle East organized a letter writing campaign demanding Thomson's reinstatement, garnering more than 2,000 responses.
In the meantime, Loubani said he and 17 of Thomson's colleagues are pitching in to cover Thomson's salary for the duration of his suspension.

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医院回应这个suspension 只是处于安全考虑。一旦没有安全风险,那个医生随时复工。
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Ontario doctor suspended, his address published after pro-Palestinian social media posts​

Threats surfaced online and in a call to the hospital, prompting police investigation​

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Brishti Basu · CBC News · Posted: Oct 20, 2023 4:00 AM EDT | Last Updated: October 20
A sign that says Mackenzie Richmond Hill Hospital, and Emergency

Dr. Ben Thomson, a nephrologist at Mackenzie Richmond Hill Hospital, has posted opinions on social media about the war between Israel and Hamas. Earlier this month, he was handed a one-month suspension, but the health authority said that 'it is false to suggest Dr. Thomson was suspended for his views.' (CBC)

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An Ontario doctor has been suspended from his job, threatened and had his address shared online after he posted pro-Palestinian views on social media.
Dr. Ben Thomson, a nephrologist at Mackenzie Richmond Hill Hospital, north of Toronto, has been sharing information and opinions on his X social media account, formerly known as Twitter, since brutal attacks by militant group Hamas in Israel on Oct. 7 and the ensuing Israeli bombing of Gaza.
On Oct. 12, Mackenzie Health posted a statement on its Facebook and X accounts saying it is "addressing social media posts from a few physicians and staff that do not reflect our views or values as an organization."
Some Facebook comments in response to this post called for Thomson to be fired. Internal emails seen by CBC News show that the doctor was handed a one-month suspension without pay the next day. But in a statement to CBC News, Mackenzie Health said that "it is false to suggest Dr. Thomson was suspended for his views," without elaborating.
The health authority's actions follow a number of complaints about the doctor's social media posts by colleagues online who disagreed with him, according to several doctors at the hospital. They also follow a threat made to the hospital on Thursday, a spokesperson for Mackenzie Health said.
The threat was made over the phone and recorded by hospital staff. A copy of this recording was shared with CBC News.
"This message is for Dr. Ben Thomson. Remove your post regarding Israel," a man's voice is heard saying in the recording. "It is disgusting, you are a disgusting human being, you do not know what you're saying, and if you do not remove it, I advise you and the rest of your staff to stay out of your office."
In addition to this threat, Thomson's home address was posted on a website where patients can rate physicians, along with further threats. These posts have since been deleted after Thomson made a request to the website for their removal, but they have prompted a police investigation and forced Thomson to leave his home on the advice of police.

Accusations on social media​

The X post that garnered controversy among Thomson's colleagues and appears to have played a role in his suspension involves his reply to another X post by the Centre for Israel and Jewish Affairs that claimed babies had been beheaded and women raped during the Hamas attack on several communities in southern Israel.
"No babies were beheaded, there have been no confirmed reports of rapes. You repeat this nonsense out of racism," Thomson wrote on Oct. 10. "In the meantime, Palestinians are experiencing genocide and war crimes and you are silent. History will judge you very badly."
Two days after his post, the White House, major media outlets and Israeli officials walked back their earlier reports of babies being beheaded at the hands of Hamas, saying these reports were unverified. Then two days after that, Israeli military teams said they found signs of rape and torture among Hamas's victims.
A screenshot of a Twitter post that screenshots another post within it.

A screenshot shows a social media post from Dr. Gil Nimni, Thomson's colleague, responding to Thomson's post on X, formerly known as Twitter. Nimni's X account has since been deleted. (Gil Nimin/X)
In response to Thomson's post, a doctor at Mackenzie Richmond Hill Hospital (whose X account is now deleted) accused him of denying the Holocaust, and another Ontario doctor criticized him publicly for denying "the trauma of the victims of these unspeakable crimes."
The post was also shared by an account called Documenting Antisemitism in Canada, which asked, "Do you trust this ghoul to provide safe patient care to Jewish patients?"
"Death of civilians is without a doubt horrible and unacceptable," Thomson wrote in response to one of his colleagues. "However, inciting genocide by dehumanizing Palestinians is also unacceptable."
The Hamas-run Health Ministry in Gaza said on Thursday that 3,785 Palestinians have been killed and 12,500 wounded from Israeli airstrikes. The Israeli government says more than 1,400 people were killed and about 200 taken as hostages to Gaza in the Oct. 7 attack on Israel by Hamas.


Doctor's public record with college is clean​

Doctors at Mackenzie Richmond Hill Hospital are not allowed to talk to the media without approval from their public relations team, but three who spoke to CBC News on condition of not being named said the atmosphere at the hospital is tense. They said they were all surprised by Thomson's abrupt suspension.
"I don't think Dr. Thomson was given a chance to defend himself or what, if any, due process was carried out," said one doctor who has worked with him for two years." Another said, "Doctors are being silenced for having an otherwise factual dialogue that is devoid of any hate. I find that to be very problematic."
Dr. Tarek Loubani, who works at London Health Sciences Centre in London, Ont., has known Thomson for more than a decade — both have worked in Gaza for periods of time, and Loubani was among 19 medics shot by the Israeli military in Gaza in 2018.
Prior to last week, he said, he had never heard any complaints against Thomson, let alone complaints about antisemitism.
"It would be so out of character because he's a person who's not connected in any way to the Israel-Palestine cause," Loubani told CBC News. "His connection is through his humanitarianism, which has led him to other parts of the world where he's run some very impressive projects, like his work in Uganda, his work obviously in Gaza and his work also with Indigenous communities in northern Canada."
Thomson's public record with the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario is also clean, with no complaints, allegations or disciplinary actions listed. The college said it would not answer questions about Thomson's suspension "due to confidentiality restrictions."
WATCH | Worldwide protests after deaths of Israeli and Palestinian civilians:

protestswrap.jpg

Rallies are held across the globe for Israelis and Palestinians​


25 days ago
Duration0:58
Demonstrators continue to gather in countries like Norway, Brazil and Greece in support of Israel following Hamas's deadly attacks on Oct. 7, while in places like France, the United States and here in Canada, crowds are standing in solidarity with Palestinians and criticizing Israel's military response.

Heightened security​

Mackenzie Health would not acknowledge or answer questions about Thomson's suspension other than its brief statement. In messages with CBC News, Thomson said he cannot comment on his suspension because "there is an active legal case around this."
However, the health authority said it has taken steps to strengthen security at the hospital as a result of this threat and because of "media reports of global online threats against the Jewish community."
"This included increasing the presence of security officers and restricting access to our hospitals to select entrances for patients and visitors," it wrote in a statement.
York Regional Police confirmed in an email to CBC News that "an investigation commenced regarding a report of a threat made against a doctor at a hospital" in York Region but would not share further information about the investigation.
After Thomson's address was posted online alongside threatening messages like "We know where you live and work pal. One eye open," he said police advised him to create a safety plan that includes staying away from home.
"I'm currently not staying at home due to my home address being posted with threats of violence, as well as the York Regional Police agreeing that not staying at home was a good idea, during discussions of a safety plan created as a result of the phone threats of violence and the online threats," Thomson wrote in a message sent through Signal, an encrypted messaging service, as a safety precaution.
"We stayed in a hotel the first night ... but have now moved into an apartment indefinitely, until we learn more regarding the outcome of the York Police investigation."
WATCH | Toronto groups mobilize to send aid to the Middle East:

2023-AC0I4596-GLOBAL-MEDIC-GAZA.jpg

These Toronto organizations are lending their efforts to send aid to the Middle East​


26 days ago
Duration2:09
As the Israel-Gaza conflict continues to unfold, aid groups in Toronto are responding to the worsening crisis. Tyler Cheese spoke to the leaders of two local organizations about what they’re doing to help — and the challenges they're facing.
Loubani said the swift action by the hospital is a rare occurrence reserved for egregious circumstances.
"The only time we ever see these sudden-death suspensions is when there's a criminal charge on a serious criminal offence, [like] sexual assault, murder, attempted murder," he said. "What I fear for other physicians is that they'll see Dr. Thomson's case, and they'll think to themselves, 'This means I should never say anything.'"
In the aftermath of Thomson's suspension and doxing, non-profit group Canadians for Justice and Peace in the Middle East organized a letter writing campaign demanding Thomson's reinstatement, garnering more than 2,000 responses.
In the meantime, Loubani said he and 17 of Thomson's colleagues are pitching in to cover Thomson's salary for the duration of his suspension.

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发表个人言论的时候最好不要显示和职业有关的联系,不然可能会把雇主牵连进来,让人误解个人观点和雇主有关
 

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政治正确是言论自由的底线,哪个国家都一样。没有必要,就不要挑战这条底线。

看一下他的原文,就是他认为107事件没有婴儿被砍头。 他认为那报道言过其实了。历史会有定论之类。 这医生言语中并没有对哈马斯的暴行有任何支持。就是对”受害者“描述的一些现象他认为不符合实际。

这种话,在各种争论中很常见,一方A1 说A2 干了啥大逆不道的坏事, 观众有人说支持A1的人说得不对,没有发生这样的事情。如果医生因为这被解职的话,CFC上和社会上不知道有多少万的人会被解职。

还公布这医生地址,留言语言威胁,身体威胁。。。

如果这不是类似文字狱,那文字狱还是啥呢?

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医生这么穷吗,这才几天没工作就要同事补齐工资度过难关?
 

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如果这医生因为这些话被语言,人身威胁,被公布地址,停薪停职,和中国文革有啥区别呢?

加拿大以后如果拿类似的理由去指责别的国家不民主,不人道,还站得住脚么?
 

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这被停薪停职加拿大医生在加沙曾经的医生同事,10天前才接受英文媒体采访,昨天还是前天全家被炸,大部分家庭成员遇难

 

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医院回应这个suspension 只是处于安全考虑。一旦没有安全风险,那个医生随时复工。
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不过这个雇主也有点不地道
既然是因为安全原因不能让员工上班,那是不是因为工资照发,或者至少发生活费?
 

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不过这个雇主也有点不地道
既然是因为安全原因不能让员工上班,那是不是因为工资照发,或者至少发生活费?
不发薪水是欠妥当。又不是医生不愿上班,是你雇主不让人上班。
 

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美国唯一的巴勒斯坦女议员被受到谴责,这话不能说:从河流到大海。

类似相反的口号,「在大海與約旦河之間只能存在以色列的主權」。

親巴勒斯坦口號「從河流到大海」的歷史與爭議​

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密西根州民主黨眾議員拉什達·特萊布在使用了支持巴勒斯坦的口號「從河流到大海」後,受到了眾議院議員的譴責。
密西根州民主黨眾議員拉什達·特萊布在使用了支持巴勒斯坦的口號「從河流到大海」後,受到了眾議院議員的譴責。 TOM BRENNER FOR THE NEW YORK TIMES

「『從河流到大海,巴勒斯坦將獲得自由』這句話暗示了一種不存在猶太國家的未來願景,但它沒有對猶太人將扮演什麼角色這個問題給出答案,」紐約市立大學教授彼得·貝納特說。但他表示,這句話的含義「應取決於語境」。

「如果是哈馬斯武裝分子說的,那我確實會感受到威脅,」作為猶太人的貝納特教授說道。「如果是一個我認識的、抱有平等和相互解放願景的人,那我並不會感受到威脅。」

這一口號引來如此多憤怒,令許多巴勒斯坦人大失所望,他們認為這是反誹謗聯盟等組織精心策劃的結果,目的是給巴勒斯坦人的動機打上問號,以此破壞他們的建國事業並讓他們噤聲。

「這兩個民族完全都可以在河流與大海間獲得自由,」牛津大學研究員艾哈邁德·哈利迪在談到巴勒斯坦和猶太民族時表示,他曾在上世紀90年代參與巴以和談。「『自由』本身必然帶有種族滅絕性質嗎?我想任何理智的人都會說不是。這句話是在否認河流與海洋之間的猶太人口也能獲得自由這一事實嗎?我想任何理智的人也都會說不是。」

哈利迪指出,納坦尼雅胡總理領導的以色列利庫德集團曾在1977年的初創綱領中提出類似的口號,稱「在大海與約旦河之間只能存在以色列的主權」。他說,這句話也可能被視為「飽含惡意」。

利庫德集團在後來的綱領中刪除了這句話,但該政黨依然反對兩國方案,即讓巴勒斯坦人在以色列旁邊擁有一個得到承認的國家。2018年,納坦尼雅胡的執政聯盟還推動通過了一項法律,將以色列的民族自決權奉為「猶太民族所獨有」。

 

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政治正确是言论自由的底线,哪个国家都一样。没有必要,就不要挑战这条底线。
这叫什么话呢。言论自由是底线,政治正确是言论自由基础上的正确,否则就和独裁专制没两样了。
 

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发表个人言论的时候最好不要显示和职业有关的联系,不然可能会把雇主牵连进来,让人误解个人观点和雇主有关
他应该蒙脸匿名发言吗?那不成了蛤蟆思吗。为什么宪法里言论自由遇到你们这些货被加了这么多限制呢。
 

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加拿大这么缺医生,培养一个医生不容易,过一阵子就要复工了。这个医生一定是善良的人,不像有些医生是自恋者。
 

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加拿大这么一个连大麻同性婚姻都允许的左翼国家都如此支持以色列,就知道哈马斯和支持者有多么不得人心了。
 
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