我还以为拿大的公务员收入算高的了，看看这个国家体制内和体制外收入差距，这差距年轻人不靠公都见了鬼了

[metropolis]

你说的这些企业都是国企，在这里就是crown coporation，比如hydro ottawa之类的，他们通过公权力垄断市场，它们对特权的操纵和对社会公平的的破坏比公务员更甚

Grok 3 的回答：

Hydro Ottawa is not a government or Crown corporation. It is a private company, incorporated under the Business Corporations Act (Ontario), and wholly owned by the City of Ottawa. It operates as a municipal utility, delivering electricity to over 335,000 homes and businesses in Ottawa and Casselman, and is governed by an independent Board of Directors appointed by the City of Ottawa. Its distribution rates and services are regulated by the Ontario Energy Board, a provincial government agency, but it is not classified as a Crown corporation, which would be directly owned by the provincial or federal government.

 

[welcomelm]

Grok 3 的回答：

Hydro Ottawa is not a government or Crown corporation. It is a private company, incorporated under the Business Corporations Act (Ontario), and wholly owned by the City of Ottawa. It operates as a municipal utility, delivering electricity to over 335,000 homes and businesses in Ottawa and Casselman, and is governed by an independent Board of Directors appointed by the City of Ottawa. Its distribution rates and services are regulated by the Ontario Energy Board, a provincial government agency, but it is not classified as a Crown corporation, which would be directly owned by the provincial or federal government.

owned by the City of Ottawa 他们通过公权力垄断市场，区别是这边的公权力不会给自己发多出私企一倍的工资。

Hydro Ottawa salaries vary by position, with some positions like Conseiller(ère) en Assurances earning around $56,663 annually, while others like Gestionnaire de Parc Automobile can earn up to $84,177. New graduates can expect to start in the $70K - $80K range. Engineers at Hydro Ottawa see an average of $83,288 per year.

Detailed Salary Ranges:

• Conseiller(ère) en Assurances: $56,663 per year.
• Gestionnaire de Parc Automobile: $84,177 per year.
• New Graduates:$70K - $80K.
  • Engineers: $83,288 per year.

 

[metropolis]

owned by the City of Ottawa 他们通过公权力垄断市场，区别是这边的公权力不会给自己发多出私企一倍的工资。

Hydro Ottawa salaries vary by position, with some positions like Conseiller(ère) en Assurances earning around $56,663 annually, while others like Gestionnaire de Parc Automobile can earn up to $84,177. New graduates can expect to start in the $70K - $80K range. Engineers at Hydro Ottawa see an average of $83,288 per year.

Detailed Salary Ranges:

• Conseiller(ère) en Assurances: $56,663 per year.
• Gestionnaire de Parc Automobile: $84,177 per year.
• New Graduates:$70K - $80K.
  • Engineers: $83,288 per year.

你想说明什么？Hydro Ottawa 到底是破坏了社会公平，还是工资合理，不比私企多一倍，工程师年薪才83K。

它是owned by the City of Ottawa，同时也是私企。

你说的这些企业都是国企，在这里就是crown coporation，比如hydro ottawa之类的，他们通过公权力垄断市场，它们对特权的操纵和对社会公平的的破坏比公务员更甚

 

[zzhome]

2024年全国城镇非私营单位和私营单位就业人员年平均工资分别为124110元和69476元；私企比公务员收入差一倍，能想象吗？

https://www.stats.gov.cn/sj/zxfb/202505/t20250516_1959826.html

这些东西都不能以偏概全，我朋友在国企和私企，私企反而工资高

 

[welcomelm]

这些东西都不能以偏概全，我朋友在国企和私企，私企反而工资高

我给的是国家统计局的综合数据，你跟我说你朋友怎么样，反过来说我以偏盖全，有脑子吗

 

[zzhome]

我给的是国家统计局的综合数据，你跟我说你朋友怎么样，反过来说我以偏盖全，有脑子吗

国家统计局数据你认为都是真的？非私营企业数据直接可以从系统里调，私营企业规模大的，正常缴税的可以查，还有些小企业甚至个人你怎么查？那些摆摊的小商贩不少挣，但是系统里他们的收入就是零，因为他们不交税，还有那些网络主播，自媒体，你知道他们挣多少吗？国家那里数据也都是查不到，这些数据都是不算在系统里的，而且都作为私营企业平均数给平均了，你简单得出来私营企业工资低，来显示国营企业或者是直接讽刺公务员工资高，实在可笑