中国最近公布的九天无人机母舰好像有明显弱点

[dreamland]

同意下面博主的观点，这个超级巨舰，亚音速，不隐身，很多防空系统或高级战机都是可以把它打下来。

中国搞这个干啥呢? 弱点太明显了


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIDczZ52cN0

 

[rottenmelon]

吸引火力 对方导弹比无人机值钱多了

 

[dreamland]

吸引火力 对方导弹比无人机值钱多了

九天母舰是一个控制几百个小无人机的中枢，还能发空空，和空地导弹，这东西不便宜，比一个PL-15 导弹至少贵一个数量级。
从九天上发出的无人机就便宜，完全是耗材。

 

[草头将军]

同意下面博主的观点，这个超级巨舰，亚音速，不隐身，很多防空系统或高级战机都是可以把它打下来。

中国搞这个干啥呢? 弱点太明显了


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIDczZ52cN0

“这架“母舰”能够飞行至15,000米高空，使其能够处于大多数防空系统的射程之外。”

 

[dreamland]

这九天的使用有个很大的前提，就是自己把对方的空军，高空防空力量基本全部摧毁或压制下，用这个东西去快速投送火力，大规模消灭对方人员和目标。

 

[dreamland]

“这架“母舰”能够飞行至15,000米高空，使其能够处于大多数防空系统的射程之外。”

很不少防空系统或战机都能涉及15000米高空。

这东西使用场合，就是假设对方的涉及高空的空军和防空军全部被摧毁或压制的情况下，需要快速投送火力，摧毁对方人员和地面或海面目标。

感觉几个适用场景
- 台海战争，共军已经把台军的空军和高空防空军基本摧毁或压制后，但海路或登陆的火力不够时，出动这东西还是会有很大效果
- 中印战争，印军陆军人数占优，但空军和防空军和共军有不少差距，假如中印直接打起来，空军和防空军碾压印军不成问题，陆军人数不够，必须要有类似这种九天增加火力精准快速投送
- 或其他和相对弱小国家


和美军打，这东西基本没有上场机会。空军和美军可以相当，当做不到完全压制或摧毁

 

[闲人甲]

印巴空战是全数据链+超视距空战，九天可以用作远程对空对地导弹的投送载具，摧毁或压制对方防空火力。
又可以伴飞高价值的预警加油机，提供防卫。

 

[dreamland]

用美国的AI 查了一下，目前全球有12 款战机能打击15000米以上目标

Here’s a list of fighter jets currently in service worldwide that can reach an altitude of 15,000 meters (49,212 feet) or higher, based on available data:

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1. Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor​

• Service Ceiling: 20,000 m (65,617 ft) 36
• Features: 5th-gen stealth, supercruise (Mach 1.82 without afterburner), advanced avionics, and sensor fusion.

2. Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II (All Variants: A/B/C)​

• Service Ceiling: 15,000 m (49,212 ft) 63
• Features: 5th-gen multirole stealth fighter, advanced sensor fusion, and network-centric warfare capabilities.

3. Chengdu J-20 "Mighty Dragon"​

• Service Ceiling: 20,000 m (65,617 ft) 36
• Features: Chinese 5th-gen stealth fighter, supercruise-capable, designed for air superiority and strike missions.

4. Sukhoi Su-57 "Felon"​

• Service Ceiling: 20,000 m (65,617 ft) 36
• Features: Russian 5th-gen stealth fighter, thrust vectoring, supermaneuverability, and advanced radar.

5. Mikoyan MiG-31 "Foxhound"​

• Service Ceiling: 20,600 m (67,600 ft) 8
• Features: High-speed interceptor (Mach 2.83), long-range radar, and hypersonic missile capability.

6. Boeing F-15EX Eagle II​

• Service Ceiling: 18,300 m (60,000 ft) 8
• Features: Upgraded 4.5th-gen fighter, advanced avionics, and high payload capacity.

7. Dassault Rafale​

• Service Ceiling: 15,240 m (50,000 ft) 8
• Features: 4.5th-gen multirole fighter, AESA radar, and nuclear strike capability.

8. Eurofighter Typhoon​

• Service Ceiling: 16,765 m (55,000 ft) 8
• Features: Agile air superiority fighter, supercruise-capable, and advanced PIRATE IRST.

9. Saab JAS 39E/F Gripen​

• Service Ceiling: 15,240 m (50,000 ft) 8
• Features: Lightweight 4.5th-gen fighter, advanced EW systems, and low operating cost.

10. Shenyang J-16​

• Service Ceiling: 15,000 m (49,212 ft) (estimated)
• Features: Chinese 4.5th-gen strike fighter, derived from Su-30, with AESA radar and long-range missiles.

11. Shenyang J-35​

• Service Ceiling: 18,000+ meters (59,000+ ft) (estimated) 19.
• Max Speed: Mach 1.8–2.2 (varies by source; F-35 competitor) 714.
• Range/Combat Radius: 1,200–1,350 km (750–840 miles) 914.

12. Chengdu J-10C "Vigorous Dragon"​

• Service Ceiling: 18,000 meters (59,055 ft) 3.
• Max Speed: Mach 1.8 (~2,200 km/h) 6.