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julianshen, 大华, flingDagger, 华华再生, S_B_LogyBear:
看来关于compiler的事你还不服气。我们不妨先看看 compiler 到底是什么。
大英百科全书是这样说的: http://www.britannica.com/ebc/article?tocId=9361286&query=compiler&ct=
Computer software that translates (compiles) source code written in a high-level
language (e.g., C++) into a set of machine-language instructions that can
be understood by a digital computer's CPU.
Compilers are very large programs, with error-checking and other abilities.
Some compilers translate high-level language into an intermediate assembly
language, which is then translated (assembled) into machine code by an assembly
program or assembler. Other compilers generate machine language directly.
你举的两个例子， 一个是实现0和1之间的加算法， 另一个是将最常用的计算企业财务数据运算表达式转换成.NET的.DLL。这些是严格意义上的 compiler 吗？一个具普遍意义的compiler 能依赖.NET吗？
再看看你现在是怎么吹的：“从我这个编译器要扩展到更高功能的编译器，主要工作就在于构建规则表达式和最后一阶段的IL代码的建立，有多难吗？” 请问从你这些东西 (你的所谓的 compiler )怎么扩展到能编译 C++， JAVA，或者任何其它高级编码语言(you name it)的编译器？
再看看你最开始是怎么吹的：“write a full functional compiler in a few days”。这里动词用的是一般现在时，compiler 的前面是不定冠词。那意思是说在任何的几天时间内能够写出一个具一般性质的,功能齐全的编译器。显然不能是写个小程序作0和1之间的加算法，或者是将几个运算表达式转换成.NET的.DLL 。
说你不懂什么是 compiler，还真没冤枉你。
端谁的碗，就要服谁管。你在职场上混乱这多年， 这点规矩你应该懂吧？我既然重金聘你，写什么 compiler 应该由我说了算！你要是把你花了好几个星期写的将几个运算表达式转换成.NET的.DLL 的小程序来搪塞我， 我现在就裁你。
You are so fired!!!
看来关于compiler的事你还不服气。我们不妨先看看 compiler 到底是什么。
大英百科全书是这样说的: http://www.britannica.com/ebc/article?tocId=9361286&query=compiler&ct=
Computer software that translates (compiles) source code written in a high-level
language (e.g., C++) into a set of machine-language instructions that can
be understood by a digital computer's CPU.
Compilers are very large programs, with error-checking and other abilities.
Some compilers translate high-level language into an intermediate assembly
language, which is then translated (assembled) into machine code by an assembly
program or assembler. Other compilers generate machine language directly.
你举的两个例子， 一个是实现0和1之间的加算法， 另一个是将最常用的计算企业财务数据运算表达式转换成.NET的.DLL。这些是严格意义上的 compiler 吗？一个具普遍意义的compiler 能依赖.NET吗？
再看看你现在是怎么吹的：“从我这个编译器要扩展到更高功能的编译器，主要工作就在于构建规则表达式和最后一阶段的IL代码的建立，有多难吗？” 请问从你这些东西 (你的所谓的 compiler )怎么扩展到能编译 C++， JAVA，或者任何其它高级编码语言(you name it)的编译器？
再看看你最开始是怎么吹的：“write a full functional compiler in a few days”。这里动词用的是一般现在时，compiler 的前面是不定冠词。那意思是说在任何的几天时间内能够写出一个具一般性质的,功能齐全的编译器。显然不能是写个小程序作0和1之间的加算法，或者是将几个运算表达式转换成.NET的.DLL 。
说你不懂什么是 compiler，还真没冤枉你。
端谁的碗，就要服谁管。你在职场上混乱这多年， 这点规矩你应该懂吧？我既然重金聘你，写什么 compiler 应该由我说了算！你要是把你花了好几个星期写的将几个运算表达式转换成.NET的.DLL 的小程序来搪塞我， 我现在就裁你。
You are so fired!!!
Are you guys making fun? I guess that "julianshen" may be young and smart with some skills, but bascially behaves as "baby cow is not afraid of tiger". he may not have a chance to develop a big systems or projects. You guys should encourge hom to continue work hard, or advise him what he is missing. And julianshen can take this chance to undertand himself or others. Fighting is funny but not conclusion can be made.
Don't go through all replies in the topic. I am not a programmer any more (I was a few years ago). It could be saying exerienced or inexperienced programmers, especially those application programmers but it is no way to say who is so so talent. Some people who are working on untilities, system softwares, protocols etc "lower layer" may need more knowledageable. But a programmer is anyway a junior code writer. The people who are taking care the whole system designing, aglorithm(maybe wrong in speeling), or project management in a large core systems may need more intellengence or skills. The people who is writting codes, no matter how much you make, no matter it is junior, senior, more or less experience, don't need to show how intellent you are, don't need to fight with others because they are so pround, just share skills or experience if you like, make some money to live life, enjoy your life in CFC. Don't have to show how talent you are.
Enjoy your time. work your skills. Calm down and relax because it is not helpful at all. Nobody is right or wrong.
Just 2 cents
Don't go through all replies in the topic. I am not a programmer any more (I was a few years ago). It could be saying exerienced or inexperienced programmers, especially those application programmers but it is no way to say who is so so talent. Some people who are working on untilities, system softwares, protocols etc "lower layer" may need more knowledageable. But a programmer is anyway a junior code writer. The people who are taking care the whole system designing, aglorithm(maybe wrong in speeling), or project management in a large core systems may need more intellengence or skills. The people who is writting codes, no matter how much you make, no matter it is junior, senior, more or less experience, don't need to show how intellent you are, don't need to fight with others because they are so pround, just share skills or experience if you like, make some money to live life, enjoy your life in CFC. Don't have to show how talent you are.
Enjoy your time. work your skills. Calm down and relax because it is not helpful at all. Nobody is right or wrong.
Just 2 cents
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