[分享]The Closing of Student Forums in China

[如假包换的马甲]

最初由 smallguy 发布
people build the system. it is still the problem of chinese people.
they bend for the authority. there is no right and wrong... only cowards behave obediently...

that is not the fault of any Party.

Don't really agree.

System also builds people. People have to have the opportunities to know better, to see better in order to have the idea to change the system at all. This is call educational opportunity.

So, what you are saying? Chinese people are born inferior? they deserved this? My belive is that people are all the same, regardless of their race. People differ not because they are born differ but because they are taugh differ.

I think it's a vicious cycle. system and people influent each other. It's a chicken and egg problem.

 

[如假包换的马甲]

最初由 ～摇曳～ 发布
不是党不对，是党里边的人做事不厚道。。~‘

So, chicken comes first or the egg first???

 

[～摇曳～]

最初由 如假包换的马甲 发布


So, what you are saying? Chinese people are born inferior? they deserved this? My belive is that people are all the same, regardless of their race. People differ not because they are born differ but because they are taugh differ.

寒，鸡和蛋。。。。。||
反正共产主义就是说着好听，却办不到的东西。。
强烈歧视国内的贪官etc.

 

[iam_freefall]

除了抱怨,你们还有什么???
你为什么不问加拿大的政府是否有真的为纳税人服务??!
好像这年头凡是沾上中国的,中央的,中华民族的就非得被置疑非得被说得穷途末路,一无是处!置疑一下,攻击一下就显不出您的客观冷静清醒大智大慧??真是无聊透顶!

 

[～摇曳～]

。。难道加拿大没有为纳税人服务？
你的免费医疗是哪里来的？
孩子的牛奶金是哪里来的？
12年级制义务教育又是怎样实现的？
你每天开的高速公路，怎么没见像国内似的有那么多收费口？


难道爱国就必须说中国什么都是好的？
水木清华这么一个好论坛，因为所谓的‘思想教育’问题就被关了。
国内大学的论坛大部分都不能从外部访问了。
明显的是试图把学生封闭起来（I doubt it'll work though)
防止他们接触太多外界的思想

现在国内许多论坛、ED,BT服务器等等都在提心吊胆，一见敏感话题马上删、锁，怕被政府抽查到，杀人灭口。
cfc上有这么多聊敏感话题的，如果cfc的服务器在国内，也早就被砍了

 

[smallguy]

最初由 如假包换的马甲 发布


Don't really agree.

System also builds people. People have to have the opportunities to know better, to see better in order to have the idea to change the system at all. This is call educational opportunity.

So, what you are saying? Chinese people are born inferior? they deserved this? My belive is that people are all the same, regardless of their race. People differ not because they are born differ but because they are taugh differ.

I think it's a vicious cycle. system and people influent each other. It's a chicken and egg problem.

yes, they deserve this.
those difference has beem deeply injilled into our gene.
people are not all the same, not at all.
tell me why black people are more dangerous than the whites, even educated in America?

 

[～摇曳～]

楼上的racist啊..

no I don't think black people are more dangerous than white people, not at all
but myth do turn into truth if enough people believe in it...

 

[cqlan]

Shame on the current Chinese government!

 

[胡说之]

２１世纪还有这种教育部长，堪称国耻。

 

[outauais]

中国现在正走在一条“走自己的路，让别人说去吧”的路上。
发展是硬道理，这是对的。
中国就这现状，谁也不能吹一口仙气把它立刻调整好。
国内经济发展迅速，人民生活每日都在改变。铁的事实摆在眼前，不能闭着眼瞎说。

 

[cqlan]

最初由 outauais 发布
中国现在正走在一条“走自己的路，让别人说去吧”的路上。
发展是硬道理，这是对的。
中国就这现状，谁也不能吹一口仙气把它立刻调整好。
国内经济发展迅速，人民生活每日都在改变。铁的事实摆在眼前，不能闭着眼瞎说。

INTERNET在缺乏新闻自由的中国的作用，大家想必都明了。在江的时代，INTERNET一步一步发展起来，对中国在政治经济科技文化各方面的进步起到了不可替代的作用。现在胡锦涛站稳了脚跟，大家看到的却是在此事上的大踏步倒退！

没有人天真到希望他老先生“能吹一口仙气把什么都立刻调整好。”但要求他不要退步，不是什么不得了的高标准吧？

 

[cqlan]

江刚上台时为元老所迫也有一阵子倒退，胡也许也是由于此种原因？但愿这不是我等
反华分子的一厢情愿。

 

[cqlan]

最初由 胡说之 发布
２１世纪还有这种教育部长，堪称国耻。

周应该只是个执行的喽罗。但身为教育部长，并且怎么说也混了个院士，却一点知识分子的风骨也没有，也实在是很丢海龟们的人了。

 

[adware]

最初由 cqlan 发布


周应该只是个执行的喽罗。但身为教育部长，并且怎么说也混了个院士，却一点知识分子的风骨也没有，也实在是很丢海龟们的人了。

知识分子?海龟?
just look around
what kind of ppl back to china?
heheh

 

[adware]

最初由 adware 发布

知识分子?海龟?
just look around
what kind of ppl back to china?
heheh

i mean most of them