国家广电总局真丢脸！:bad:

[如假包换的马甲]

最初由 水果刀 发布
国家广电总局总算做回好事了

Exactly.

 

[魔鬼筋肉人]

最初由 水果刀 发布
国家广电总局总算做回好事了

此话不假，也是时候停止一味地引进国外文化了，要有选择的筛选，不值得浪费钱的片子不用多说

 

[Kurt]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 国家广电总局真丢脸！:bad:

最初由 wuwei 发布



披着麻袋没有深意的破烂片子？你大概是觉得李安是行贿买通全球所以才在全球范围的电影节获奖吧？
《英雄儿女》，<上甘岭>, 〈奇袭白虎团〉等影片在美国上映了么？这个问题问得很有水平，不过问错人了，你应该去问美国人去，最好要有骨气一点，老美不学中文咱也不希罕学英文，就拿中文问他们。

大哥，我对李安没成见呀！！！ 我想要指出的是CENSORSHIP 和 气度没关系！！！！！！！ MUCH MORE HAS TO DO WITH "POWER AND KNOWLEDGE", "INCLUSION AND EXCLUSION".
懂了？？?

 

[Aurora Borealis]

公司春节前的年会，摊到我们部门的节目由从小练习舞蹈的秘书出，她准备的是日本伞扇舞，排练的时候我看了，跳的相当好，和服也很漂亮。没两天，我们部门准备的是日本舞的消息就在公司传开了，大家嘴上不好说，心里却都很别扭。公司里年轻人居多，在年会上冒出个日本舞，不是给大家添堵找不痛快吗。结果呢，幸亏我们部门的秘书先开口说如果不合适就不演了，主持人也就趁机把这个节目取消了。

为了让大家心理舒坦，有些事是没道理可讲的，广电禁Geisha也一样。 其实Geisha的盗版我看过， 单从片子本身讲，很女性化，拍得比较细腻，挺不错的。但广电公映Geisha，必须掂量掂量老百姓大众的感受，大家不喜欢甚至反感，最好就识趣点儿，不要放，放了也是遭骂。所以呢，支持禁Geisha

去年公司年会的时候曾经有部门唱了屠洪刚的《精忠报国》，非常喜欢，这里和大家分享一哈，希望大家也喜欢。

http://www.qq986.com/Player/jingzhongbaoguo_49601.htm

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龙起卷马长嘶剑气如霜
心似黄河水茫茫
二十年纵横间谁能相抗
恨欲狂长刀所向
多少手足忠魂埋骨它乡
何惜百死报家国
忍叹惜更无语血泪满眶

马蹄南去人北望
人北望草青黄尘飞扬
我愿守土复开疆
堂堂中国要让四方
来贺

（链接不上的就google或baidu吧，真的不错，很阳刚 ）

 

[wuwei]

没有理由担心老百姓大众的感受，陈凯歌的“无极"不是有日本男人和中国女人么？还不是照样在国内很流行？张艺谋不是也请了个日本人高仓健来演“千里单骑”吗？网上还说过高仓健前两年帮日本极右派演过一部电影呢。为什么请鬼子来但针对自己同胞章子一？

Geisha故事背景是日本的，断臂山是同性恋题材，但这些都不重要，重要的是这两部电影是关于人类的电影，非常严肃地看待人生的电影，特别是断臂山，美国的故事美国的电影，中国文化来演绎，看那极为有力结尾就知道了。

前两天我和一位台湾来的同学电话里说到李安，这位同学说李安领奖时用中文致谢了，据说大陆方面不高兴，我说没有呀我们都很高兴呀，这位同学说是吗？哦，那一定是台联那些人给大陆抹黑了，他说我知道台湾有些喜欢给大陆造谣抹黑。

精忠报国，怎么报？精忠报国不是无限上纲上线，本来不沾边的事硬被炒作成大是大非的问题，恐怕这样真正原则问题反而被当作炒作。我们都希望祖国统一，光靠枪炮就可以统一祖国吗？这样的胸怀你是台湾人你敢“回归祖国吗“？

广电禁黑市照样卖网上照样可以当，实际上中国开放得很，问题都是网上炒出来的，理由根本站不住脚，可悲的是这成了国家政策。前面有人问禁这两部片和禁cfc有什么区别？禁cfc也就对我们和国内的交流有影响而已，禁这两部片等于在全世界丢脸。

 

[洲际]

最初由 wuwei 发布
前面有人问禁这两部片和禁cfc有什么区别？禁cfc也就对我们和国内的交流有影响而已，禁这两部片等于在全世界丢脸。

其实理由是一样的，不能让中国人民接触到政府不喜欢的信息。

 

[如假包换的马甲]

最初由 wuwei 发布
没有理由担心老百姓大众的感受，陈凯歌的“无极"不是有日本男人和中国女人么？还不是照样在国内很流行？张艺谋不是也请了个日本人高仓健来演“千里单骑”吗？网上还说过高仓健前两年帮日本极右派演过一部电影呢。为什么请鬼子来但针对自己同胞章子一？

Because why? Most people think she is a slut, could you prove otherwise?

最初由 wuwei 发布
Geisha故事背景是日本的，断臂山是同性恋题材，但这些都不重要，重要的是这两部电影是关于人类的电影，非常严肃地看待人生的电影，特别是断臂山，美国的故事美国的电影，中国文化来演绎，看那极为有力结尾就知道了。

Most movies are about human nature, right? About life? give me a break! They make movies like this is because Sex/prositiute/gays sort of staff sell!!!
Hollywood is about making money mostly.
You really care about human nature? watch documentary and discouvery channel, those may actually get you somewhere.

最初由 wuwei 发布

精忠报国，怎么报？精忠报国不是无限上纲上线，本来不沾边的事硬被炒作成大是大非的问题，恐怕这样真正原则问题反而被当作炒作。我们都希望祖国统一，光靠枪炮就可以统一祖国吗？这样的胸怀你是台湾人你敢“回归祖国吗“？

精忠报国，怎么报？like you? Worshiping Japanese culture.
无限上纲上线? I think you are the one 无限上纲上线. What is that has to do with TW?

最初由 wuwei 发布
前面有人问禁这两部片和禁cfc有什么区别？禁cfc也就对我们和国内的交流有影响而已，禁这两部片等于在全世界丢脸。

Totally different. The formers are about national dignity and moral values. The latter is about political monopoly and maintain iron grip on power.

I think what really 等于在全世界丢脸 is not to ban those movies. Why can't we maitain our national dignity and moral values? Why do we have to accept others without Discretion? Anything Hollywood make is good? We should accept unconditionally?

If you ask us to forgo our moral values, why don't you ask the muslim or chritian to forgo theirs? Are national values inferior than religion values?

 

[wuwei]

最初由 如假包换的马甲 发布


Because why? Most people think she is a slut, could you prove otherwise?



Most movies are about human nature, right? About life? give me a break! They make movies like this is because Sex/prositiute/gays sort of staff sell!!!
Hollywood is about making money mostly.
You really care about human nature? watch documentary and discouvery channel, those may actually get you somewhere.



精忠报国，怎么报？like you? Worshiping Japanese culture.
无限上纲上线? I think you are the one 无限上纲上线. What is that has to do with TW?




Totally different. The formers are about national dignity and moral values. The latter is about political monopoly and maintain iron grip on power.

I think what really 等于在全世界丢脸 is not to ban those movies. Why can't we maitain our national dignity and moral values? Why do we have to accept others without Discretion? Anything Hollywood make is good? We should accept unconditionally?

If you ask us to forgo our moral values, why don't you ask the muslim or chritian to forgo theirs? Are national values inferior than religion values?

关于What is that has to do with TW既然你还是不明白我就再说一点，胡哥说了，解决台湾问题“寄希望与台湾人民的方针不改变”，因此我们要送熊猫，但光这样就行了吗？当然不行，特别是像你这样将自己同胞骂为slut的野蛮行为都会起负面作用。

别的懒得回你。

 

[bright smile]

最初由 如假包换的马甲 发布


Because why? Most people think she is a slut, could you prove otherwise?



Most movies are about human nature, right? About life? give me a break! They make movies like this is because Sex/prositiute/gays sort of staff sell!!!
Hollywood is about making money mostly.
You really care about human nature? watch documentary and discouvery channel, those may actually get you somewhere.



精忠报国，怎么报？like you? Worshiping Japanese culture.
无限上纲上线? I think you are the one 无限上纲上线. What is that has to do with TW?




Totally different. The formers are about national dignity and moral values. The latter is about political monopoly and maintain iron grip on power.

I think what really 等于在全世界丢脸 is not to ban those movies. Why can't we maitain our national dignity and moral values? Why do we have to accept others without Discretion? Anything Hollywood make is good? We should accept unconditionally?

If you ask us to forgo our moral values, why don't you ask the muslim or chritian to forgo theirs? Are national values inferior than religion values?

no offense to you, but you are a bit narrow minded, like most chinese young people are. that's exactly why these movies have to be banned in china. 禁止放映是不得已的决定。 因为中国的国情。the national pride/spirit in china right now is very strong but also goes a bit extreme. I mean we should be able to appreciate a movie without getting too hyped up because the geisha slept with a few japanese!! japanese in general should be isolated? that's never the answer! there are bad ones, there are good ones. we should be anti-japan extremist/WWII war criminals, but not the common japanese ppl, no? 日本士兵在二战时有一些是战犯，有一些是被迫参战的。geisha loved one of them, even he is a general, can u conclude he is a war criminal but not someone jsut taking orders from eitehr emperor? ask urself one question, would he have a choice? u dont' even know whether he is a war criminal or not. u can't say , jsut becasue geisha loved him, this movie has to be banned. come on, that's just childish and unreasonable.

about the gay movie, i would say it's very unfair and irresponsible for you to say," it's for making money, gay material sell". that is so not true! gay movies don't sell, that's common sense! li An had a lot of pressue when he filmed this story.Oscar usually don't give gay movie any credit. but this time, it's really his directing scored. you just can't deny it ok? how many movie festivals top prize has he gotten by far? 6, baby, 6!! it's a breakthrough. it's a pride for all chinese, although he is from taiwan. but he was very humble when he's giving the thank-you speech on golden globe. he owns it!

as for zhang zi yi, you are JUDGING her unfairly when you say she is a slut. again it's not responsible for u to say that.she is not great great, but hey, she earns her honor and got lucky that's all. no need to be so hard on her. dont' be too negative. she is just a girl that need to move up, get successful. all in all, geisha movie is not a anti china movie. relax and chill.

wheewww...jsut off my chest...peace!

 

[contractor]

禁，禁，禁，禁得好

仅仅封这两部电影还不够，所有沾日本的东西都要禁，最终要达到，"日"和"本"这两个字，也不得使用。

强烈要求将张艺谋的<千里走单骑>也禁了，因为这是一部使用日本人做主角的影片，高仓健的爷爷，或者爷爷的爷爷，肯定支持过对华战争，所以要禁。

 

[bright smile]

lol...nice sarcasm

 

[sinoquebec001]

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[Aurora Borealis]

其实“禁”字用得不合适，就象楼主题目中用“真丢脸”引来一些同学不满一样，中文太丰富了，一不留神用过了，里面包含的感情色彩也就变了。 (希望没有冒犯楼主，我们一直很友好的哦 ) 还有，“伎”非“妓”，“艺伎”非“艺妓”，可惜大多数国人是分不清的，反感在所难免，咱又犯不着为了放映Geisha现普及“艺伎”知识。

不就是没进口两部片子吗，太普通了，广电每年不进口的片子多了去了，凡是进口的国外片，都是经过精挑细选，保证能有上座率，大家喜欢看的，比如春节我去看《金刚》，场场爆满，第三天提前两小时才弄到票。拷贝太贵，不用票房着补回来，哪能每部大片都买得起。所以不是“禁”，而是考虑票房，经过筛选，没进口而已，小意思啦。 所以也谈不上广电丢脸不丢脸，因为跟丢脸不相关。

挺不喜欢张艺谋整的《千里走单骑》，活脱脱用一对可怜的中国农村的父子关系去衬托一对日本父子的关系。陈凯歌也是，找日本演员也就算了，偏弄个diao3 er2 lang1 dang1 的真田小队长演中国的大将军，也是脑子突然短路的主儿。怪不得网友抱怨《无级》无聊，却为《馒头》叫好。呵呵，感受国内年轻人中的某些情绪有一阵子了，多少可能也受了影响。

不过《精忠报国》这首歌还是很好听的哦，每次听都会不由自主地想象岳将军纵马飞驰、马蹄南去、北上抗金的场景，然后无限感慨千百年前那种很朴素的大汉民族的男儿气概。

当然啦，现在是和平年代，用不着纵马扬鞭，不过很喜欢细细体味年轻一代、特别是男性中那种静静的抗争，你会突然觉得那种抗争源自他们优秀的祖先。:glowface:

言语如有得罪，请原谅。:thanks:

 

[如假包换的马甲]

最初由 wuwei 发布



关于What is that has to do with TW既然你还是不明白我就再说一点，胡哥说了，解决台湾问题“寄希望与台湾人竦姆秸氩桓谋洹保?虼宋颐且?托苊ǎ??庹庋?托辛寺穑康比徊恍校?乇鹗窍衲阏庋??约和??钗?lut的野蛮行为都会起负面作用。

别的懒得回你。

Can't you read my words carefully?? Did I ever said she is a slut? I don't know for sure, so I can't make that conclusion. What I said was"Most people think she is a slut" Isn't that true? Isn't most people in China think that way. So I think that's probably, because most people think that way. I am not saying that's definitely true. remember"Probable".

BTW, I totally dislike any war against TW under Any circumstances. I think that's totally wrong. I am more of a humantarian than a nationlist, so human life value more to me than the name of Nation.

 

[如假包换的马甲]

最初由 wuwei 发布

特别是像你这样将自己同胞骂为slut的野蛮行为都会起负面作用。

Why is that a babarian behaviour?(assume I did say it) what if it's true? so, what you mean is that she can do it, but we can't say it?

See, you can't say that's babarian behavior, Unless you can prove she hasn't done those things.

Be logical, man!

I can't prove she did those things, so I didn't say she is a slut, instead, I said "people think...."

See, you have to be careful with words!