地球联盟党加拿大政治的第二主张：试验新型民主制度，平息阿富汗战乱，节省纳税人的钱，加士兵不能白白牺牲

[wushuren]

阿富汗开孔子学院，试验新型民主制度，平息阿富汗战乱，节省纳税人的钱，加拿大士兵不能白白牺牲。

只是用民主自由和枪炮子弹，必然搞不定阿富汗。那里的宗教传统是根深蒂固的。以基督教为背景的民主自由和枪炮子弹是远远不够搞定那里的。唯有试验新型民主制度，采用中国的儒家思想渗透，调和基督教和伊斯兰宗教和文明冲突的对立性，才能彻底平息阿富汗的战乱。在这点上，必须和中国合作。而不应采取围堵和在中国周围设钉子的战略。要把中国文化请到阿富汗教育系统中去。单纯的中华文化也不足以搞定那里，必须加上民主自由。这与中国是否是共产国家无关，而应该采取务实的态度而不是对抗的态度，利用一切资源。既然参与了阿富汗的行动，就应该求得自己的最大利益和取得胜利。

地球联盟党关于加拿大的第二个政治主张。有关外交。

 

[roaring mouse]

Re: 阿富汗开孔子学院，试验新型民主制度，平息阿富汗战乱，节省纳税人的钱，加拿大士兵不能白白牺牲。

最初由 wushuren 发布


地球联盟党关于加拿大的第二个政治主张。有关外交。

your 第二个政治主张 is as flatly wrong as your first one. When one considers solutions to a military problem, one has to weigh geopolitical risks. Why would US/Canada/NATO give up Afghanistan to Chinese influence? If Afghanistan comes into US/Canada/Nato's fold, it will become a sword that threatens Russia, China and Iran/Middle East at the same time, that is where the future of the world holds in terms of energy hegemeony and emergent superpowers like China and Russia. British failed there, USSR failed there and US/Canada/Nato will follow suit.

Three important neighbors China wuold/should not give up: Burma, Korea and Afghanistan. Korea is the gateway to control over China and Siberia and China will not let it fall into enemy hands. Burma offers an escape from the curse/hold on its oil shipping line. Afghanistan is the spring board to the vast energy reserve of the world. It is in China's interests to see US/Canada/NATO fail there. So forget your dreaming solution.

 

[wushuren]

Re: Re: 阿富汗开孔子学院，试验新型民主制度，平息阿富汗战乱，节省纳税人的钱，加拿大士兵不能白白牺牲。

最初由 roaring mouse 发布


your 第二个政治主张 is as flatly wrong as your first one. When one considers solutions to a military problem, one has to weigh geopolitical risks. Why would US/Canada/NATO give up Afghanistan to Chinese influence? If Afghanistan comes into US/Canada/Nato's fold, it will become a sword that threatens Russia, China and Iran/Middle East at the same time, that is where the future of the world holds in terms of energy hegemeony and emergent superpowers like China and Russia. British failed there, USSR failed there and US/Canada/Nato will follow suit.

Three important neighbors China wuold/should not give up: Burma, Korea and Afghanistan. Korea is the gateway to control over China and Siberia and China will not let it fall into enemy hands. Burma offers an escape from the curse/hold on its oil shipping line. Afghanistan is the spring board to the vast energy reserve of the world. It is in China's interests to see US/Canada/NATO fail there. So forget your dreaming solution.

您没看懂我说的什么，中国文化结合民主自由才能够搞定阿富汗那种地方。如果我是加拿大总理，我当然要控制阿富汗，但是我会从中国文化中吸取自己的力量，加上民主自由。如果不放过中国，那么加拿大不是没有中国文化，也没有必然让中国政府参与。中国文化不是多元化中的装饰品，而能够为民主制度再进化找到解决方案。如果中国也能够认清这点，结合民主自由和中国文化进化民主制度，我当然可以去和中国做盟友。如果中国不这么干，那么我就用己之矛攻己之盾。
在国际政治中，世界上没有永远的敌人，只有永远的利益。

 

[wushuren]

换句话说，西方国家如果用东西方结合的新型民主制度稳定住了阿富汗，牢牢控制了中亚。而中国还是原来的那套政治体系，中国输定了。而且是绝妙的讽刺，因为新型的民主制度竟然有中国文化的影子。

 

[roaring mouse]

最初由 wushuren 发布
换句话说，西方国家如果用东西方结合的新型民主制度稳定住了阿富汗，牢牢控制了中亚。而中国还是原来的那套政治体系，中国输定了。而且是绝妙的讽刺，因为新型的民主制度竟然有中国文化的影子。

君君臣臣父父子子. That is the essence of Chinese culture. Will they accept that? Do also not forget Afghanistan is a tribal society. Can you just modernize the country by forcing another culture and another political system into the country? Before you do that, there has to be bloodshed.

 

[wushuren]

最初由 roaring mouse 发布


君君臣臣父父子子. That is the essence of Chinese culture. Will they accept that? Do also not forget Afghanistan is a tribal society. Can you just modernize the country by forcing another culture and another political system into the country? Before you do that, there has to be bloodshed.

中国古代和中原征战的游牧民族也都是部落社会，评书中就号称三川六国九沟一十八寨，嘟嘟贝勒，最后都被融入。中国也有很多的穆斯林。

君君臣臣父父子子，古代的儒家思想就曾经是消天下雄气的作用。只不过活人君主会退化，造成定期崩溃。

而这里的“君”在新型民主制度下便成为法律为王，已经不是活人君主。法律面前人人平等。安拉之下人人平等。大概其差不离。

不是给他们那些部落改信宗教。君君臣臣父父子子的儒家思想现代化是最合适的。基督教是不可能完成这个任务的。伊斯兰和基督教最后的命运都是被儒化，或者是中国化。最后，大家才能从文明宗教冲突背景上解脱出来，变成一家人。中国文化和民主自由结合进化出更先进的民主制度，这是唯一的道路和解决。

 

[roaring mouse]

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中国古代和中原征战的游牧民族也都是部落社会，评书中就号称三川六国九沟一十八寨，嘟嘟贝勒，最后都被融入。中国也有很多的穆斯林。

that has taken thousands of years; still today you will find dissents in muslims in China and Tibetans in Tibet. your claim 被融入 is kind of untrue. the minorities or tribespeople still retain their distinct culture and habits; the best you can say is intermixing. melting is like one losing one's own identity in the process.

 

[wushuren]

最初由 roaring mouse 发布


that has taken thousands of years; still today you will find dissents in muslims in China and Tibetans in Tibet. your claim 被融入 is kind of untrue. the minorities or tribespeople still retain their distinct culture and habits; the best you can say is intermixing. melting is like one losing one's own identity in the process.

汉族本身就不是单一血统的民族，他带着中国历史上消失的各个民族和部落的基因。中国的回族实际上就是信奉伊斯兰教的汉族。除了宗教，他们和汉族根本就没有区别。满族基本上已经名存实亡了。

intermixing 更准确一些，本人不认为阿富汗那种地方会迅速融合，那确实需要很长时间。但是，合适的政策会造成更快地稳定下来，达到和谐，这些政策必须是有深度的思考作为背景的。

像现在这种办法，只靠武力弹压和西方的民主自由，是不行的。加拿大士兵会在阿富汗白白死去。