an Open Letter to CFC System Administrator

  • 主题发起人 主题发起人 yokel
  • 开始时间 开始时间
its best if controversial topics were not posted
 
To add one more question to the open letter

4. Also, I noticed the function of editing or modifying the content of my comment has been disabled. Could you explain why that was necessary?
 
最初由 Caohaoying 发布
CFC is a private property and the owner does not obliged to give any reason for whatever management issues. Take it easy.
Thanks for your participation and your input.

I wouldn't mind to respond to your comment or discuss with you about what happened or about your argument. But as you can see the open letter was intended for the CFC system administrator. Let me ask you this:

- Are you CFC system administrator?

- Are you working for CRC and you are speaking on behalf of CFC?

- Are you the owner of CFC?

If your answer to any of above question is yes, I'll be more than happy to discuss it with you. Otherwise, you are probably only speaking for yourself, not for CFC. CFC may have a different view from yours on this issue. Maybe it's better for me to wait and see what CFC has to say...:)
 
最初由 mooncake 发布
oh, come on man, it is only your thought. Go talk to your family, they may care what you think.
Gee, this is a dumb statement, no offence...:)

I am not sure if you are able to see or if you are able to realize that most comments posted by people all over the Internet (including CFC) are "people's thoughts" or their personal views including the very one you posted as well as most (if not all) of your CFC comments. Why people have to talked to their family if the comments they posted are "their thought"? How often do you "talk to your family" when you post "your thoughts"?

By the way, what if I don't have anyone to talk to? Would you mind if I talk to you so you can be a some kind of 'psychiatric counselor' for me since yokels sometimes can be wacky. I hope you are qualified, otherwise I could be your psychiatric counselor...:)
 
最初由 cvictor 发布
你想在 CFC 登广告那是很受欢迎的。
Thanks for the invitation...:) But I think most people would be hesitant to spend their hard-earned money on a company if they knew the company treats its potential advertisers, potential clients, potential customers badly...:) Actually I did have the thought of buying CFC ad...:)
 
最初由 contractor 发布
如果真的open and fair,XX功的桶子们也不会闲着的,你希望CFC成为一个宗教网站吗?
If you ask my opinion on this, it doesn't bother me at all.

First of all, the forum is "miscellaneous topics" forum. There have been religious comments all the time. What would be the legitimate reason to stop people posting religion-related comments?

Second, I don't mind if it's Christianity, Catholicism, FLG, CCP's "communist religion", or James Jone's People's Temple as long as they don't preach hatred, racial discrimination, or deliberately flood or spam the forum.

Third, if you don't like whatever they posted you can refuse to read them, or comment, or criticize them as I don't read most of the articles on FLG posted from either sides (for or against) especially those purely propaganda stuff.

Fourth, in the case they do preach hatred, racial discrimination, or deliberately flood or spam the forum with religious articles (which I doubt, I believe most of them are nice and ordinary people like you and me), this is what I will do if I were the forum moderator. I would first politely ask them to modify their behavior. If it doesn't work, a warning would be appropriate. If it still doesn't work, I will delete the comment/articles posted by the worst violator.

Fifth, it's not the end of the world letting people express their views. Only those who are too week, too impotent, too unconfident about themselves are afraid of letting ordinary people express their views. Only those who are afraid of freedom of expression, freedom of press and so on want to control and silence people...

It's just my personal opinion. Oops, maybe I should not post my thought here before "mooncake" has granted his permission... Just kidding...:)
 
I noticed just now my comment seems to be able to go through at this moment. It's still not certain how long this will last. I just tried the editing function and it's still being disabled.

For the partial improvment, I would like to express my thanks to whoever responsible for making the change.
 
最初由 卧虎藏龙 发布
its best if controversial topics were not posted
If that was the problem, why not make some quick changes. Such changes can be:

- change the forum name from "miscellaneous topics" to whatever appropriate

- change the forum charter (if there's one) then the moderator can make a public announcement about the change.

It shouldn't be difficult to do. If some people do not like the change they can set up a new forum. This process is much more open and fair than surreptitiously deleting people's threads, blocking people's comments, disabling some CFC functions without any warning, notification and explaination, or without any legitimate reason which more or less resembles the style of how Chinese government treats ordinary peopoe in China.
 
My suggestion is to take a English writing course before complaining in English. You will feel your voice being stronger, even in your working environment.
 
最初由 不错 发布
My suggestion is to take a English writing course before complaining in English. You will feel your voice being stronger, even in your working environment.
Sorry for not being able to respond sooner. Just a couple of quick points.

"My suggestion is to take a English writing course before complaining in English."

Thanks for your suggestion. It's not a secret that my English is poor and far from perfect. It seems you and I do not completely see eye to eye on how to improve English. I'm the kind of people who believe using English is one of the efficient ways to improve it, not until your English is perfect then starting using it. I believe this opinion is also widely held by many native-tongue English experts. It would be more helpful and I would be more appreciative if you could be more specific either on which part of my English or on which content/argument of my comments that you have problems with...:) You are more than welcome to join the discussion on either my poor English or the content of my or other people's comments.

"You will feel your voice being stronger, even in your working environment."

Thanks for the suggestion again. But actually, I do not feel there's any necessity to raise my voice or make it stronger. After all, it is not a shouting competition. To be honest with you I don't even see that was a complain, because I don't have high expectation for some Chinese sites such as CFC. All my comment did was presenting a couple of facts and asking a couple of questions. That's it. Also, I'm pretty happy with my relaxed, easy-going voice of baritone...:)

By the way, just curious, when volunteering your expert advice or your expert opinions to people on their English on the Internet, are you always saying things like or are you sure it's "A English writing course"? not "AN English..."?:)
 
最初由 Caohaoying 发布
CFC is a private property and the owner does not obliged to give any reason for whatever management issues. Take it easy.
Okay, let's have a little chat...:)

Since you were so quick rushing to defend CFC, it gives me the impression that you may work for CFC. Maybe you do work for CFC, or you ARE the owner of CFC...:) By the way I'm also assuming what you said "does not obliged" meant "is not obliged".

- First of all, about what a private business establishment can do or can not do to its customers. I'm not sure how special or how unique CFC is, or what privileges that CFC may be entitled to, this is my limited understanding of what a private business establishment can do and can not do to its customers. Let me give you an example to show my understanding of it. About several months ago I read (or heard) that a black person walked into a bar and was asked to leave without being given any legitimate reasons. He then filed a complain to the Human Rights Commission. Later he won the case and the bar was ordered to pay him something 10k or 20k (can't remember the exact figure).

I did a quick web search about the report and was not able yet to locate it. I'll try to find the report later and post the URL after I found it. If anyone happens to have found it, please post the URL here. Thanks.

- Second, in a particular sense you are right. The owner of a private business establishment can do whatever he wants to his customers (for example, beating up his customers), but at what cost financially? legally? morally? socially? etc... It's not like in China, in North America, the record of what you have done will follow you anywhere you go.

- Third, About the so called "CFC's management issues", can you tell people or explain to people
1. what CFC management problems or issues did yokel have caused?
2. what CFC management problems or issues CAN yokel cause?
I guess it would be interesting to see...:)

- Fourth, your argument sounds like as if yokel had done something wrong to have caused CFC management problems or issues. Perhaps I can ask you, is it possible that CFC has done something that is not so right in terms of its business practice?...:)

- Fifth, you were asking me to "take it easy". It really sounds funny. Let us take a quick look at it. On one side is this poor and dumb yokel. On the other side is this rich and mighty CFC assumably accusing the yokel of having caused CFC management problems or management issues. deleting his thread which includes many comments contributed by other people, blocking his comment, disabling functions of his account, without giving any explanations or notifications, not even a warning. I guess now it's easier to see who is the one that should take it easy?...:)

- Last, just curious, how many people have received the same treatment as yokel has received? If none, why treating a poor yokel so differently?...:)

I have read some of your comments after you made your above comment. I don't want to say you should take it easy, but you do seem to need to work along that line...:)
 
自己建个网站好了

自己建个网站好了:flaming: 在CFC瞎倒腾干嘛!
好东西自然有人去捧场! 你说呢?
 
Re: 自己建个网站好了

最初由 bbcat_li 发布
自己建个网站好了:flaming: 在CFC瞎倒腾干嘛!
好东西自然有人去捧场! 你说呢?
Thanks for your participation in the discussion.

Are you sure you want me to respond?:) You should be able by now to tell that it won't be difficult for me to respond to your comment which really doesn't seem to make you look very good. Maybe you want to rephrase your comment or take it back. I don't want to give impressions that yokels are people lack of leniencies...:)
 
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