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<HTML>非常非常欣赏RABBIT的乐观精神。
冬天总会过去的。而冬天过去了，春天还会远吗？：)
下面仅向HELLO提一些面试的建议。
OK, I'll go for the English. Typing Chinese is really a pain.
6 months ago, I was trained by the HR manager for the interviewing skills. I can't recall which guide she gave to me, but clearly it is said in the booklet, asking for Canadian experience is prohibited either in the job ad or during the face to face interview. You may say this is a transparent lie, OK, I sort of agree with you. What I do not agree is, when someone fails the interview, s/he always use the Canadian experience as an excuse. As a matter of fact, if you can get the interview, that means the hiring manager is really interested in your background (no matter where), at that stage, it's all up to you, show him/her your technical know-how, your work attitude, your easy-going personality as a team player and blah blah...
If you fail this time, then go back, sit down, make a cup of tea, then check, if the failure is due to
1) You lie too much in the resume(right, resume is supposed to be a lie, but not a big lie) and get caught by the technical questions. To solve it, go to Carleton U or OU, take some courses to update your knowledge, or lie modestly in your next version resume.
2)Your communication skill is poor. When you apply for a technical position,e.g. developer, and your resume shows all your experience are all in China. I would say before the interview, the interviewer would expect your English might be a little bit broken, but not too much. Think about this, if you can't show the projects you have done clearly in a one hour process, or you can't understand what s/he says, how can you convince him/her you are the right person who will work with him in the future? To quickly solve it, try to practise the interview procedure with a friend again and again untill you feel confident. Not like talking in a pub, the topics are random. After all, in the interview, mostly you're talking about what you know.
3) Do you ask too much? The salary is important, but not that important. For the first job, you normally don't have some strengths for bargining. Asking a modest pay may put you in a good position.
OK it is too late, got to go to bed. We do have some positions for VC++ developer, keep an eye on the citizen.
Good Luck for your job hunting, Hello! </HTML>
<HTML>非常非常欣赏RABBIT的乐观精神。
冬天总会过去的。而冬天过去了，春天还会远吗？：)
下面仅向HELLO提一些面试的建议。
OK, I'll go for the English. Typing Chinese is really a pain.
6 months ago, I was trained by the HR manager for the interviewing skills. I can't recall which guide she gave to me, but clearly it is said in the booklet, asking for Canadian experience is prohibited either in the job ad or during the face to face interview. You may say this is a transparent lie, OK, I sort of agree with you. What I do not agree is, when someone fails the interview, s/he always use the Canadian experience as an excuse. As a matter of fact, if you can get the interview, that means the hiring manager is really interested in your background (no matter where), at that stage, it's all up to you, show him/her your technical know-how, your work attitude, your easy-going personality as a team player and blah blah...
If you fail this time, then go back, sit down, make a cup of tea, then check, if the failure is due to
1) You lie too much in the resume(right, resume is supposed to be a lie, but not a big lie) and get caught by the technical questions. To solve it, go to Carleton U or OU, take some courses to update your knowledge, or lie modestly in your next version resume.
2)Your communication skill is poor. When you apply for a technical position,e.g. developer, and your resume shows all your experience are all in China. I would say before the interview, the interviewer would expect your English might be a little bit broken, but not too much. Think about this, if you can't show the projects you have done clearly in a one hour process, or you can't understand what s/he says, how can you convince him/her you are the right person who will work with him in the future? To quickly solve it, try to practise the interview procedure with a friend again and again untill you feel confident. Not like talking in a pub, the topics are random. After all, in the interview, mostly you're talking about what you know.
3) Do you ask too much? The salary is important, but not that important. For the first job, you normally don't have some strengths for bargining. Asking a modest pay may put you in a good position.
OK it is too late, got to go to bed. We do have some positions for VC++ developer, keep an eye on the citizen.
Good Luck for your job hunting, Hello! </HTML>
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<HTML>Thank you so much for all of you.Anyway.Sometimes I think in jobseeking there is a lot of tricks and cheating.so do in forums.but thanks anyway.
My English ,In fact is not so bad.Maybe in some ways of expression and confidence.Or I can't lie at all.I will feel guilty when I'm lying.:|.So I always guess others will know i am lying.even I can explain what I wrote in resume.Can anybody give a suggestion?</HTML>
<HTML>Thank you so much for all of you.Anyway.Sometimes I think in jobseeking there is a lot of tricks and cheating.so do in forums.but thanks anyway.
My English ,In fact is not so bad.Maybe in some ways of expression and confidence.Or I can't lie at all.I will feel guilty when I'm lying.:|.So I always guess others will know i am lying.even I can explain what I wrote in resume.Can anybody give a suggestion?</HTML>
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Senior engineers have chance
<HTML>It seems that most of the companies only want senior engineers in all fields right now. I feel it is extremely hard for junior/intermediate guys to get a job now. But, it is not very possible for guys with only chinese experience to be regarded as senior engineer by local recruiters.</HTML>
<HTML>It seems that most of the companies only want senior engineers in all fields right now. I feel it is extremely hard for junior/intermediate guys to get a job now. But, it is not very possible for guys with only chinese experience to be regarded as senior engineer by local recruiters.</HTML>
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RE: hello
<HTML>看到两天以来,大家在这里沸沸扬扬这么久的吵闹,我们看到了很多不同的观点和意见.这是必然的现象,也是很好的开端.
对于hello,你的现状我们也可以理解,我们也有经历过seeking job的困惑和彷徨.包括这个网站,也是我们在找工作期间为了学习新知识,结交新朋友建立的.
我觉得,你首先应该摆正的是2+经验算什么?只是本地IT届招人的基本要求,记得以前去招聘会,进去之前总有个人先看看你的简历是否达到2+经验.这已经是去年的黄历了,在今年这样的经济形势下面,5+经验才是各个还在招人的公司需要的.当年我主要指渥太华的通讯行业.其实看来你的专业,如果把面看得宽一点,试试多伦多或者其他小城市,也许在你的专业上有一些发展机会.
其次,就是你说的,你觉得你的英语不是很差.我知道大部分中国新移民过来,语言水平实在不敢恭维.记得我在考雅斯的时候刚换了一间新公司,那时我拿到的雅斯口语成绩是6分,只是so so.新公司里面我的直接领导是个英语很标准的法国MM,记得我进去的时候已经被她夸奖英语很不错了,结果我还是化了三个月才适应了公司内部所有的communication,包括meeting,presentation全部是英语的要求.而且当时毕竟是在国内,他们是外国人,他们对于中国人的英语要求绝对比这里的要求低得多.我觉得这里LNIC分级的口语要求比雅斯大约还要严一些,因为我的口语评定只有6+.我只是希望你明白如果有可能,好好学学英语无论在什么时候都是很重要的.
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<HTML>看到两天以来,大家在这里沸沸扬扬这么久的吵闹,我们看到了很多不同的观点和意见.这是必然的现象,也是很好的开端.
对于hello,你的现状我们也可以理解,我们也有经历过seeking job的困惑和彷徨.包括这个网站,也是我们在找工作期间为了学习新知识,结交新朋友建立的.
我觉得,你首先应该摆正的是2+经验算什么?只是本地IT届招人的基本要求,记得以前去招聘会,进去之前总有个人先看看你的简历是否达到2+经验.这已经是去年的黄历了,在今年这样的经济形势下面,5+经验才是各个还在招人的公司需要的.当年我主要指渥太华的通讯行业.其实看来你的专业,如果把面看得宽一点,试试多伦多或者其他小城市,也许在你的专业上有一些发展机会.
其次,就是你说的,你觉得你的英语不是很差.我知道大部分中国新移民过来,语言水平实在不敢恭维.记得我在考雅斯的时候刚换了一间新公司,那时我拿到的雅斯口语成绩是6分,只是so so.新公司里面我的直接领导是个英语很标准的法国MM,记得我进去的时候已经被她夸奖英语很不错了,结果我还是化了三个月才适应了公司内部所有的communication,包括meeting,presentation全部是英语的要求.而且当时毕竟是在国内,他们是外国人,他们对于中国人的英语要求绝对比这里的要求低得多.我觉得这里LNIC分级的口语要求比雅斯大约还要严一些,因为我的口语评定只有6+.我只是希望你明白如果有可能,好好学学英语无论在什么时候都是很重要的.
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<HTML>I agree with Jane. Even I am in my company and every one said you work excellent. My manager told me: please improve your English.
I have a weakness: don't want to gossip with my managers. I think most Chinese from China may have the problem. They think they can wait for bosses' order then do. But your bosses want to know what you want to do and what you think of things.
I am not sure how different it is between intervewing a software developer and a system engineer. I think year can't always interpret your experience. If you are strong enough and convict the interviewer, they will not care of how many year you have worked. They only want to find somebody to fix problem.
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<HTML>I agree with Jane. Even I am in my company and every one said you work excellent. My manager told me: please improve your English.
I have a weakness: don't want to gossip with my managers. I think most Chinese from China may have the problem. They think they can wait for bosses' order then do. But your bosses want to know what you want to do and what you think of things.
I am not sure how different it is between intervewing a software developer and a system engineer. I think year can't always interpret your experience. If you are strong enough and convict the interviewer, they will not care of how many year you have worked. They only want to find somebody to fix problem.
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<HTML>System designer's positions are quite few even in the States. So there is quite few people who are persuing them. Frankly, your questions are pretty difficult and too academic. They are almost useless for a programmer. Maybe there is only one position in Ottawa for the guy who can answer these questions correctly. What's more, the guy who can answer these question may not know how to remove space from a string efficiently. HAVE A VISION AND STAND UP.</HTML>
<HTML>System designer's positions are quite few even in the States. So there is quite few people who are persuing them. Frankly, your questions are pretty difficult and too academic. They are almost useless for a programmer. Maybe there is only one position in Ottawa for the guy who can answer these questions correctly. What's more, the guy who can answer these question may not know how to remove space from a string efficiently. HAVE A VISION AND STAND UP.</HTML>
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<HTML>I mean these questions provided by ITConsultant:
1. What is the advantage of polymorphism?
2. Give an example of object factoring
3. What is the double dispatch of a message?
4. Is there any disadvantage of dynamic variable binding?
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<HTML>I mean these questions provided by ITConsultant:
1. What is the advantage of polymorphism?
2. Give an example of object factoring
3. What is the double dispatch of a message?
4. Is there any disadvantage of dynamic variable binding?
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RE Carry On: hello, you may want to question yourself first.
<HTML>Oh yeah, tough guy! Why are you so sensitive to the English representation style in this Forum? I guess you are not from China or you had betrayed China a long long time ago. While we are discussing the poor job situation, you came and challenge every body who had dropped a line here. Do you know who are you? </HTML>
<HTML>Oh yeah, tough guy! Why are you so sensitive to the English representation style in this Forum? I guess you are not from China or you had betrayed China a long long time ago. While we are discussing the poor job situation, you came and challenge every body who had dropped a line here. Do you know who are you? </HTML>
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RE Carry On: hello, you may want to question yourself first.
<HTML>Oh yeah, tough guy! Why are you so sensitive to the English representation style in this Forum? I guess you are not from China or you had betrayed China a long long time ago. While we are discussing the poor job situation, you came and challenge every body who had dropped a line here. Do you know who are you? </HTML>
<HTML>Oh yeah, tough guy! Why are you so sensitive to the English representation style in this Forum? I guess you are not from China or you had betrayed China a long long time ago. While we are discussing the poor job situation, you came and challenge every body who had dropped a line here. Do you know who are you? </HTML>
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RE: RE Carry On: hello, you may want to question yourself first.
<HTML>GSP,
Your posting was misleading people here. Your message seems irrational. Note that this is not referring your English expression. We are talking about job market and job seeking issues. Attacking people is not an appropriate way of discussion.
CarryOn,
I did come from China and Ottawa is my second hometown.
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<HTML>GSP,
Your posting was misleading people here. Your message seems irrational. Note that this is not referring your English expression. We are talking about job market and job seeking issues. Attacking people is not an appropriate way of discussion.
CarryOn,
I did come from China and Ottawa is my second hometown.
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