加拿大的種族歧視真厲害

[Tongjiya]

我邻居很好的一个白人, 说他小孩上大学开始在计算机专业, 后来感觉压力大,就转到商科.

其实这么多华裔小孩涌进computer, engineering,medical, accoutning那都是生存环境逼出来的, 实话实说,这是相对比较公平和稳妥的进入相对高收入的工作的途径.

就跟现在国内流行词"我爸是李钢"那样, 如果我们来这里很长时间拥用很大家业,大片土地和人际关系, 孩子根本不需要为了生存去学这些专业, 如果我有1000万资产, 100亩地. 孩子想学啥专业就学啥专业.

如果又没很大家业,大片土地和人际关系,也没有好的专业,.......

What you said is right on. I totally agree!

 

[BoBoMa]

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by judy_an (绿腰) at 2010.11.12 22:13 (#6362828@0) <!-- articleInfo end -->
作为家长, 我深切关注, Maclean不能这么不负责地放把火就走, 这篇文章的目的是险恶的, 后果是长期的严重的. <!-- title end -->
1.首先是挑起校园种族争端, 把亚裔学生放在其他族裔的对立面, 暗示亚裔学生抢了其他其他族裔的大学机会. 我们的孩子以后在学校会不会被更多暴力歧视的可能?
2. 诱使胁迫各个大学设立招收潜规则, 为亚裔学生设立高入学门槛,以限制人数.我们的孩子能不能得到公平的受高等教育的机会?
3. 无视多元文化的基本宪法, 歧视并排斥亚裔家庭教育和文化背景. 我们的孩子以后怎么来认同自己的本族文化?

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[第N个马甲]

我邻居很好的一个白人, 说他小孩上大学开始在计算机专业, 后来感觉压力大,就转到商科.

其实这么多华裔小孩涌进computer, engineering,medical, accoutning那都是生存环境逼出来的, 实话实说,这是相对比较公平和稳妥的进入相对高收入的工作的途径.

就跟现在国内流行词"我爸是李钢"那样, 如果我们来这里很长时间拥用很大家业,大片土地和人际关系, 孩子根本不需要为了生存去学这些专业, 如果我有1000万资产, 100亩地. 孩子想学啥专业就学啥专业.

如果又没很大家业,大片土地和人际关系,也没有好的专业,.......

Exactly.

If you are a francophone, you can get a nice gov job easily even if you just have a highschool diploma.

Chinese?那都是生存环境逼出来的...

 

[mooncake]

我邻居很好的一个白人, 说他小孩上大学开始在计算机专业, 后来感觉压力大,就转到商科.

其实这么多华裔小孩涌进computer, engineering,medical, accoutning那都是生存环境逼出来的, 实话实说,这是相对比较公平和稳妥的进入相对高收入的工作的途径.

就跟现在国内流行词"我爸是李钢"那样, 如果我们来这里很长时间拥用很大家业,大片土地和人际关系, 孩子根本不需要为了生存去学这些专业, 如果我有1000万资产, 100亩地. 孩子想学啥专业就学啥专业.

如果又没很大家业,大片土地和人际关系,也没有好的专业,.......

那当然了，要是你爸爸是老布什，那你最不济的职业也是州长啊，写程序？太掉价了呗。

 

[mooncake]

一个金发碧眼女人上了飞机在头等舱坐下。空姐过来检票，告诉她：“您的机票是普通舱的，不能坐在这里。女人说：“我是白人，是美女，我要坐头等舱去洛杉矶！”

空姐无奈，只好报告组长。组长对女人解释说：“很抱歉！您买的不是头等舱的票所以只能坐到普通舱里。”“我是白人，是美女，我要坐头等舱去洛杉矶！”美女依然重复着那句话。

组长没有办法，又找来了机长。机长俯身对美女耳语了几句，美女立刻站起身，大步想普通舱走去。

空姐、组长都很惊讶，问机长对美女说了什么。机长回答：“我告诉她头等舱不到洛杉矶。”

 

[第N个马甲]

一个金发碧眼女人上了飞机在头等舱坐下。空姐过来检票，告诉她：“您的机票是普通舱的，不能坐在这里。女人说：“我是白人，是美女，我要坐头等舱去洛杉矶！”

空姐无奈，只好报告组长。组长对女人解释说：“很抱歉！您买的不是头等舱的票所以只能坐到普通舱里。”“我是白人，是美女，我要坐头等舱去洛杉矶！”美女依然重复着那句话。

组长没有办法，又找来了机长。机长俯身对美女耳语了几句，美女立刻站起身，大步想普通舱走去。

空姐、组长都很惊讶，问机长对美女说了什么。机长回答：“我告诉她头等舱不到洛杉矶。”

haha...dumb blonde joke

 

[Tongjiya]

In Maclean's article it says

"Sociologist Thomas Espenshade surveyed 10 elite U.S. universities and found that Asian applicants needed an extra 140 points on their SAT scores to be on equal footing with white applicants."
And it also hints in its sub-title
"Worries that efforts in the U.S. to limit enrollment of Asian students in top universities may migrate to Canada"

This "balancing" policy is not fair for hard-working Asians and I hope it will never happen in Canada!

It may not happen at school and university but it has always been the case in the workplace.

 

[Tongjiya]

Exactly.

If you are a francophone, you can get a nice gov job easily even if you just have a highschool diploma.

Chinese?那都是生存环境逼出来的...

The French requirement is a de facto francophone affirmation action; otherwise Quebec would have become independent long time ago. Personally I think it will eventually become independent: Canada is just buying time.

One thing though the French language has very limited market value outside the government. Even in Montreal most jobs require both English and French. In the big picture, the choices are limited if you do not speak English well.

 

[Tongjiya]

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by judy_an (绿腰) at 2010.11.12 22:13 (#6362828@0) <!-- articleInfo end -->
2. 诱使胁迫各个大学设立招收潜规则, 为亚裔学生设立高入学门槛,以限制人数.我们的孩子能不能得到公平的受高等教育的机会?
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Don't want to scare you but I think it has always been the case with professional schools like law and medicine or internship programs like those in accounting firms.

 

[gettomaybe]

诱使胁迫各个大学设立招收潜规则, 为亚裔学生设立高入学门槛,以限制人数.我们的孩子能不能得到公平的受高等教育的机会?

白人不会这么蠢的。人家宁可说为了 promote diversity，要扶助那些 underrepresented ethnic groups。这要好听多了。

 

[Tongjiya]

Last time when people said that they should have affirmative policies for the Blacks and Natives, the whites cried that it was not meritocratic, and now when Asians were admitted in large numbers to universities on pure meritocratic terms, they want affirmative policy!

 

[Tongjiya]

在医学院,护士等专业就已经开始有潜规则了. 看看很多拿到行医和注册护士资格的华人经历就知道了.

医学院,护士等领域, 他们卡亚裔,用语言,或人文,文化等做托词. 工程,计算机,会计设卡就很无耻了. 不就几个 ::, :, ->, ==, =, if, case等等翻来复去的用嘛.

I worked for an employment agency in Vancouver before. There when the clients said that they wanted to hire someone with good "interpersonal skills", it is a coded term meaning that they either wanted someone who was white or spoke accentless English. By the way, the term "Asian" is almost used like a euphemism for Chinese, as if Chinese were a dirty word. I don't know why.

Some clients were so blatant that they would tell us directly that they did not want Chinese or Indian. Quite bad.

 

[newer]

华裔得个什么奖、当个什么官的太少了。英国、法国媒体不需要这么报道英裔或法裔，因为他们得个什么奖、当个什么官的太多了。

华人要把自己的能力变成财富和影响力。好好学学犹太人。

这就是我们中国人很普遍的看问题方式。

听到过哪个英裔或者法裔的人，抱怨哪个总理没有为他们英裔或者法裔干点什么么？

某华裔得个什么奖、当个什么官，我们的媒体在报道的时候，总得在该人的名字前冠以＂华人＂、＂华裔＂。

见过英国、法国媒体这么报道英裔或法裔么？

 

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...。

华人要把自己的能力变成财富和影响力。好好学学犹太人。

不是一代人、两代人就能学会的。

 

[newer]

如果学，不用考虑多久。 华人在加拿大从修铁路开始已经不止一代人、两代人了。

不是一代人、两代人就能学会的。