I feel so dull here

guest · 2001-06-23

<HTML>That is exactly waht I feel these days here.
Look the formal message I left.Some one gave me such a mass questions titled so called interview questions which really a crap. Do you think it is a funny give person like me some hit in confidence?
And some people told me you have to improve your english just because it's the demand for some business positions or Sr.developers.I never doubt this ---But,I don't aim at those.
And so many dull things.
Can chinese here speak some real words no matter in Chinese,half baked english or self deemed mature english ?</HTML>

guest · 2001-06-24

<HTML>我觉得最重要的，英文到现在你还不够重视，这样是绝对不对的。我在前面的帖子里说过，无论你花多少时间在英语上都不为错，即使你junior developer又怎样？经验越是不足，越是要靠语言补。记得我以前在国内有个同事经验很丰富，但是语言是大问题，有时开会无法表达自己的意见，很辛苦。幸好是在国内，所以鬼子老板们很nice,让他跟我们(中国的工程师)讲清楚后，请我们转达他的意见。当时他跟我一样的薪金，但我才毕业一年，我想也只是语言的强式帮了我忙。更何况你现在是在以英语为官方语言的国家，你以为你一辈子都用这么烂的英文可以吃得开吗？你就从来以为有份简单工作就好，不需要进一步得到senior的位子了？我认识一个人，在这里呆了六年，他的英文无论语音语调都是无可挑剔的，现在是某间小公司的founder之一。你说你只有2+经验，说明你也很年轻，用点心，一口实在的英文真的很重要。
至于对与你的专业，我不是很了解具体的需求。现在的经济低谷，大家都很辛苦，多少很有经验的本地人和很优秀的中国移民也在失业阶段。2+经验必然是有些浅了，谁都希望找个经验非常丰富的programmer，因为coding有很多地方是相通的，有多点别的经验值，就多很多竞争的优势。但是我也相信在这个坛子上给你意见的人都是热心人，你这样的态度只会冷落人心，也许就会丧失很多潜在的机会。你真的需要好好反省自己，态度不端正，什么事情都做不好的。</HTML>

guest · 2001-06-24

<HTML>我想大家也确实真心的想帮助你，但是也只能帮到这一步了，没有人能说，你按我说的这样做，就一定能找到工作，对吧？
现在的时机不好，好多人也找不到工作，而且人和人的情况差别很大，不能一刀切的。其实只有你自己能帮到自己，看看市场需求，看看自己的不足，提高，尝试。这是我们可以做的，是吧？</HTML>

guest · 2001-06-25

<HTML>Hello,

你的精神状态，或者说心态，已经出了问题。

我 posted 这些问题是因为你说你有2年Java 和2年C++ 经验，
而我的公司又迫切需要OO developer。这些问题并不是很难，
但除了第一个外，答案只能来自于经验。如果对这些OO 概念不
清楚的话，是难以胜任System Analyst以上的工作的。看来我
是估计过高了。

工业界需要的是专才。你不必精通五、六种计算机语言。在一门
语言上有专家级知识，足够使你拥有一份高薪的工作。

我们为什么不需要 Entry-Level 的Programmer？因为这类人
只能写 Code，有时甚至要给他们写好 pseudo-code。如果Job
market 实在太热，那只好找一些有潜力的，边做边 training。

语言的问题，大家都说了。我只想说一点，documentation
是 system development 中很重要的一部份。

如果你觉得这些话不中听，可以 ignore it。

对于你以后的心态贴子，我将不再回贴，请谅解。</HTML>

guest · 2001-06-25

<HTML>hello, you really need to work on your English.</HTML>

guest · 2001-06-26

Dont be hurry please

<HTML>I read his questions too. And I think they are reasonable, although in China we have no chance to meet this kind of questions. In my opinion, OO in Canada is not exactly the same as in China. We said we know OO because we installed a VC in computer. But here it is not so simple. Anyway, we all need to improve ourselves, both in English and in technology. I have 5 years of programming exp and I am looking for a job too. What friends here can help us is giving us advice and information, I think. Do you think so? Any that's what they are doing.
After all, "Add oil and good luck" for both of us. and all the new comers.

BTW: who can tell me how to say "ADD OIL" in english? I think you know what I mean.</HTML>

guest · 2001-06-26

RE: Dont be hurry please

<HTML>ADD OIL= Keep going? Maybe not 100% match.
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guest · 2001-06-26

RE: Dont be hurry please

<HTML> add oil=Never say die. Sounds not a perfect translation.</HTML>

guest · 2001-07-09

RE: Dont be hurry please

<HTML>add oil = Go xx Go (e.g. "Go Leaf Go" during a hockey game).</HTML>

guest · 2001-07-10

RE: Dont be hurry please

<HTML>add oil = Go Nick Go (e.g. "Go Leaf Go" during a hockey game).</HTML>

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