Minto keeps her 66K down payment......On YouTube
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你亲眼看过你提到的文件吗？上面有Minto具有法律效力的签字吗？
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什么结论啊？PDI 前一天Minto 给 LZ Email过来两张缩水房子的图纸，也就是这个房子真正的图纸，这事大家都知道。这样卖房不合适吧？
好奇问一下：合适或者不合适的标准是什么？
我与阿土同问：“你亲眼看过该文件吗？上面有Minto具有法律效力的签字吗？”
咱们简单一点，只明确一个最基本的问题
LZ和Minto双方签字的房子的名称是什么？
我的许多发言看起来好像不在帮BDW，其实，我只不过是试图找出关键点，这些关键点搞清楚了，才可以判断自己是否有可能赢，也才好作决策如何和Minto争取自己的最大利益
当然啦，如果自己心里清楚合理争取不可能了，已经是满盘皆输了，那就想怎么办就怎么办吧
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to Bdw---
The Don't Quit presentation is based on a famous poem which was written many years ago. The author of this poem is unknown. Sadly, in recent years a number of people have claimed ownership of the poem and some have even claimed to have written it themselves!
Here is the original poem in it's entirety:
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When the road you're trudging seems all uphill,
When the funds are low and the debts are high,
And you want to smile, but you have to sigh,
When care is pressing you down a bit,
Rest, if you must, but don't you quit.
Life is queer with its twists and turns,
As every one of us sometimes learns,
And many a failure turns about,
When he might have won had he stuck it out;
Don't give up though the pace seems slow--
You may succeed with another blow.
Often the goal is nearer than,
It seems to a faint and faltering man,
Often the struggler has given up,
When he might have captured the victor's cup,
And he learned too late when the night slipped down,
How close he was to the golden crown.
Success is failure turned inside out--
The silver tint of the clouds of doubt,
And you never can tell how close you are,
It may be near when it seems so far,
So stick to the fight when you're hardest hit--
It's when things seem worst that you must not quit.
- Author unknown
The Don't Quit presentation is based on a famous poem which was written many years ago. The author of this poem is unknown. Sadly, in recent years a number of people have claimed ownership of the poem and some have even claimed to have written it themselves!
Here is the original poem in it's entirety:
When things go wrong, as they sometimes will,
When the road you're trudging seems all uphill,
When the funds are low and the debts are high,
And you want to smile, but you have to sigh,
When care is pressing you down a bit,
Rest, if you must, but don't you quit.
Life is queer with its twists and turns,
As every one of us sometimes learns,
And many a failure turns about,
When he might have won had he stuck it out;
Don't give up though the pace seems slow--
You may succeed with another blow.
Often the goal is nearer than,
It seems to a faint and faltering man,
Often the struggler has given up,
When he might have captured the victor's cup,
And he learned too late when the night slipped down,
How close he was to the golden crown.
Success is failure turned inside out--
The silver tint of the clouds of doubt,
And you never can tell how close you are,
It may be near when it seems so far,
So stick to the fight when you're hardest hit--
It's when things seem worst that you must not quit.
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以下引自大中报，从这个叙述看，LZ 的APS中是有标准Yorkvill C户型的文字。不知为什么你们说从这篇文章中看不出来，当然如果你不信她的一面之词是另一回事。
http://72.167.54.199/dzgyw/main/news/show.php?contentid=6383
在得到电子邮件的确认后，施认为不应该再担心了。4月13日，施签订了注明Yorkville C户型住宅的房地产买卖合同(APS)。据施称，她还在APS中所含Yorkville C户型的楼层平面图上做了简签。
With that confirmation, Shi felt that she should no longer worry. On April 13, Shi signed the Agreement of Purchase and Sales (APS), on which a dwelling model of Yorkville C was described. According to Shi, she also initialed a floor plan of the Yorkville C model included in the APS.
没错，我看到这段了，那只不过是据施称，我没看到一处是大中报作为第三方看到那个双方签字的合同了，那个非常重要
作为普通网友，没权利要求看到，可作为写报道的大中报，是可以要求看原始文件的，当然给不给大中报看权利在施女士本人
还有，在那个视频，可以让大家看一下合同的名称，不给看细节也是可以的
至少， 在那个视频里可以给大家看一下申请Mortgage时Minto出的资料上销售的房屋户型（名称）是什么
这比光是嘴巴讲什么更简单明了，更有说服力
光给大家看那个房屋Floor Plan， 可以说没有什么实质意义，因为那个Floor Plan 谁都可以从Minto那里拿到。
降字难听
我更愿意用和字， 劝和
从大中报的报道看，你赌对了
从大中报的报道看，Minto态度很明确，还是愿意和BDW合作找个满意的方案，也就是说， Minto和谈大门没有关闭
Minto给大中报记者的Email
“We hold ourselves to the highest standard of integrity in our dealings with each and every customer. It is our desire to work to resolve the issues with Shi through the appropriate channels.”
有个数据很有意思，大中报披露的，Minto自2008年起在Ottawa卖了3600新房屋， 还没有一起Complaint需要Tarion介入的
According to Tarion’s website, Minto, a builder licensed by Tarion, has delivered about 3600 new homes to buyers since 2008, and maintained a record of “zero homes with claims” – indicating that Tarion has never had to step in to directly settle a homeowner’s claim that was unresolved by Minto.
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BDW不是发帖邀请有兴趣的网友看原始文件吗？您这么关心此事怎么没去看一下原始文件？百猜不如一见吗！劳您大驾亲临一阅，一切不都结了吗？要不让BDW 把原始文件送到您的府上？
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我没那么大的热情到要亲自去BDW那里看，我不是陪审团的，我的观点不重要
我是看BDW的视频，给她提点建议， 更有说服力一些，是另外一种帮助（还是那句话帮助的热情也没那么大，没到要亲自出面的地步，因为我感觉BDW不会采纳我的建议）
目前，从大中报看到的Minto的意见，核心是两个，很巧就是我最早第一次在BDW帖子里明确提出的2点
1〉 Minto卖的就是 As Is的房子， 不是完整版的
2〉 BDW没按时签文件，是违约
但是Minto否认施的律师的指控，声称按照合同出售给施的住宅户型与已经建成的住宅别无二致。
But Minto denies the allegations from Shi’s lawyer, stating that the home dwelling it sold to Shi under the APS was exactly the same one it has built.
Minto的律师在回复给施的律师的信中称：“Minto建造了缩水版的住宅户型，出售的也正是这一住宅户型。Minto的立场是，建造的住宅就是按照合同出售的住宅。他在信中强调， 购房者没有购买标准的Yorkville户型，Minto也没有向他们出售这种户型。”
“Minto built a reduced nook dwelling and that is what it sold,” Minto’s lawyer responded to Shi’s counsel in a letter. “And Minto’s position is that the dwelling which was constructed was the specific dwelling which was sold under the APS.” The letter asserts that Shi did not purchase a standard Yorkville model, and that Minto did not sell her such a model.
“你的客户简签的草图并不是合同的组成部分……你的客户在签订合同之前，在销售代表在场的情况下已经全面看过住宅全貌，包括厨房……显然，这些房间的面积从未被改动过。”
“The sketch your client initialled was not part of the APS… Your client fully inspected the dwelling itself, including the kitchen… prior to signing the APS, in the presence of the sales representative, and it would have been obvious that the rooms were the size they are.”
Minto在信中进一步指出，施在交割时违约，因为她“没有在交割当日完成转账和签署所有交割文件”。
Minto further indicated in the letter that it considered Shi in breach of contract, as she “failed to transfer funds and close on the closing date”.
