没想到克林顿时代的美国有这么厉害呀!

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有红利也得会利用啊。至少说明克林顿把红利用得风生水起,利益达到极致。如果当时换个总统,说不定一手好牌也能打烂呢。
说的没错。
但是这里头有先后问题, 有轻重问题。
 
本来就不复杂。你说的冷战红利没有错。但是如果没有国家干预,利益完全被财团截流,变成资本输出到中国,美国的中产和穷人不能受益,美国不可能繁荣,更不用说消灭赤字。

吼吼吼, 你看问题也太简单化了
 
所以,希拉里有得吹啊,my husband blah, blah。:D
 
本来就不复杂。你说的冷战红利没有错。但是如果没有国家干预,利益完全被财团截流,变成资本输出到中国,美国的中产和穷人不能受益,美国不可能繁荣,更不用说消灭赤字。
那当然。 这里头各种因素很复杂的。
单单提哪个都不能说明问题。

利益分配当然很重要, 可我觉得冷战红利,比起利益分配来说, 对于小克那段时间繁荣的boost作用更大。
 
所以,希拉里有得吹啊,my husband blah, blah。:D
我可以理解的是希拉里不敢在电邮门上扯淡。。。可一提比尔克林顿八年,她也没底气。。估计是陆文斯基弄的。:D
 
所以,希拉里有得吹啊,my husband blah, blah。:D
感觉像是富二代在吹自己老爷子的风光。
 
靠大呼幽2000问题,全世界从美国买硬件,软件。
 
当总统这样的事,老婆可以向老公请教的吗?:p阿bill, 这个伦家不会啦,你教教伦家嘛~” :monster:
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当总统这样的事,老婆可以向老公请教的吗?:p “阿bill, 这个伦家不会啦,你教教伦家嘛~” :monster:
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当总统这样的事,老婆可以向老公请教的吗?:p “阿bill, 这个伦家不会啦,你教教伦家嘛~” :monster:
那是你这么想。。。希拉里是这么想的:比尔,当年要是没我背后垂帘支招,你能那么牛么?你能有空露文斯基么。。。
 
如果说多一点,美国下坡有3个原因, 第一是减税,这个实际上是中产富人的零和博弈。表面看富人中产都减税。实际结果是富人更多资本投向世界各地,逃脱了对美国的回报责任。而中产虽然一时也有税务好处,但最终要承担国家债台高筑的后果。财务上讲,不过是资产变成更多负债的把戏。 第二是全球化切了美国中产饼,资本家分了大头,后进国家的工人分了小头。 这个还是削弱中产。削弱中产的后果必然是削弱美国。 第三才是战争亏损
 
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如果说多一点,美国下坡有3个原因, 第一是减税,这个是中产富人的零和博弈,富人有更多资本投向世界各地,而中产最终讲承担国家债台高筑的后果。第二是全球化切了中产饼,资本家赚大头,后进国家的工人赚小头。这个还是削弱中产。削弱中产的后果必然是削弱美国。 第三才是战争亏损
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我可以理解的是希拉里不敢在电邮门上扯淡。。。可一提比尔克林顿八年,她也没底气。。估计是陆文斯基弄的。:D

那个,美国人还真没当回事儿。看看有几个美国总统有艳史:

The 10 Juiciest Presidential Sex Scandals
You know about Bill & Monica, but what about James & William? Dwight & Kay? Franklin & Lucy?
posted on Sept. 25, 2013, at 11:44 a.m.

Jessica Misener

BuzzFeed Staff

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1. James Buchanan
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President Buchanan

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Sen. William Rufus King

The only bachelor president, James Buchanan was rumored to be homosexual, which in the 19th century earned him much derision. He lived for 15 years with William Rufus King, a senator from Alabama whom Andrew Jackson dubbed “Miss Nancy,” and the pair allegedly were lovers. Aaron V. Brown, who served as U.S. postmaster general while Buchanan was president, reportedly referred to King as Buchanan’s “wife.”

2. George W. Bush
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Amidst gossip about his alleged DUI and cocaine use, No. 43 also faced a few sexual allegations. One involved a criminal complaint and rape charge by Margie Denise Schoedinger, a Texas woman who later committed suicide. The second was an accusation by Tammy Phillips, a former stripper, of having an 18-month affair with Bush that ended in 1999.

3. Warren G. Harding
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Harding allegedly had a 15-year affair with Carrie Fulton Phillips, the wife of a friend. As president, he carried on a relationship with Nan Britton, a woman 30 years his junior who reportedly lost her virginity to the future president at age 20. Britton reportedly gave birth to Harding’s illegitimate daughter, Elizabeth Ann. When Harding died unexpectedly in 1923, rumor circulated widely at the time that his wife, Florence, poisoned him. Britton published a book about her relationship with the president in 1927.


4. Thomas Jefferson
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Jefferson’s relation with Sally Hemings, the mixed-race slave who was his late wife’s half-sister (they had the same father) and with whom he had six children, remains a subject of discussion and disagreement centuries later. Contemporary wealthy Virginia widowers often took enslaved women as concubines, so for Jefferson to also do so would not have been unusual for the time.


5. Dwight D. Eisenhower
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Dwight D. Eisenhower had an affair with his driver, Kay Summersby, who wrote about the relationship in a book published six years after Ike’s death. Although some scholars have disputed the affair, President Harry Truman reportedly told author Merle Miller that in 1945, Eisenhower asked permission from General George Marshall to divorce his wife to marry Summersby. Eisenhower biographer Jean Edward Smith writes, “Whether he and Kay were intimate remains a matter of conjecture. But there is no question they were in love.”


6. Franklin D. Roosevelt
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FDR had a lifelong affair with Lucy Mercer, who was Eleanor Roosevelt’s “social secretary.” The romance between Mercer and Franklin likely began in 1916, when Eleanor and the children were vacationing to avoid the summer heat, while Franklin remained in Washington, D.C. Eleanor discovered a packet of love letters from Mercer in his suitcase in 1918 and subsequently offered her husband a divorce, but the couple remained married, though the first lady focused increasingly on social work and nurturing her own career for the remainder of FDR’s presidency.


7. John F. Kennedy
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JFK’s list of rumored affairs is rampant, including alleged flings with Angie Dickinson, Marlene Dietrich, and Jackie’s press secretary Pamela Turnure, though none are as well-known as the president’s rumored tryst with Marilyn Monroe, with whom JFK purportedly spent a weekend at Bing Crosby’s house in 1962. The White House switchboard also noted calls from her during 1962. FBI director J. Edgar Hoover received regular reports as to Kennedy’s indiscretions. Doctors speculated that the drugs the president required for his Addison’s disease had the side effect of increasing his virility.

According to John F. Kennedy himself, Kennedy father Joe told his sons to get “laid as often as possible.”

8. Grover Cleveland
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During the 1884 presidential campaign, the Buffalo Evening Telegraph published a juicy story about Cleveland’s alleged affair with salesclerk Maria Halpin, whom he allegedly “date raped.” Halpin later discovered she was pregnant. Rumor has it that Cleveland then had her child put in an orphanage and forced her to be treated at a mental asylum, although historians have questioned that detail. Cleveland did admit to paying child support for her son.

9. Bill Clinton
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Yeah, you know about this one. In addition to Clinton’s affair with Monica Lewinsky, the president also faced allegations of sexual misconduct from Paula Jones, Gennifer Flowers, Kathleen Willey, Elizabeth Ward Gracen, and Juanita Broaddrick.


10. Lyndon B. Johnson
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LBJ reportedly had many affairs, including a 21-year relationship with Madeleine Brown. Brown became pregnant in 1950, prior to Johnson being in the White House, and gave birth to a son, Steven. Johnson purportedly set her up in an apartment for their trysts and gave her financial help. Several scholars have refuted these charges.

According to biographer Robert Dallek: “When people mentioned Kennedy’s many affairs, Johnson would bang the table and declare that he had more women by accident than Kennedy ever had on purpose.”
 
如果说多一点,美国下坡有3个原因, 第一是减税,这个是中产富人的零和博弈,富人有更多资本投向世界各地,而中产最终讲承担国家债台高筑的后果。第二是全球化切了中产饼,资本家赚大头,后进国家的工人赚小头。这个还是削弱中产。削弱中产的后果必然是削弱美国。 第三才是战争亏损

这些是小布什犯下的错吧?克林顿可是给大公司和富人加税,给中产以下和小business减税。而且他虽然给大公司加税,但他有很多政策扶持这些公司在国际上的竞争力。
 
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