在中国生活近20年美国人对比中美病毒爆发:为什么有点不对劲呢?

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“这不是一场阴谋,这只是一次悲剧。”2月5日,自称在华生活近20年的意大利裔美国人马意骏(Mario Cavolo)在社交媒体领英上撰写题为“各位,这里有点儿不对劲:对比美国2009年H1N1病毒与中国2020年新型冠状病毒”的文章引得不少网友关注。

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文章将美国2009年暴发的甲型H1N1流感疫情与中国此次新型冠状病毒肺炎疫情进行对此,对中国在面对疫情时采取的积极行动予以称赞,并对那些恶意攻击中国的言论予以驳斥。

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【“这不是一场阴谋,这只是一次悲剧”】

文章开头,马意骏开门见山地提起美国2009年暴发的甲型H1N1流感。

2009年美国暴发甲型H1N1流感疫情,美国政府宣布进入紧急状态。世界卫生组织宣布疫情为“国际关注的突发公共卫生事件”,并将全球流感大流行警戒级别升至6级,这是世卫生组织40年来第一次把传染病警戒级别升至最高。马意骏在文中表示,这场流感最终确诊感染病例达6000万,并在当年导致至少18449人死亡。然而,该文提到,实际情况远比这更糟糕,根据2012年报告最终统计,死亡病例接近30万。

“在2009年H1N1流感暴发期间,我不记得全球各地有发生仇外反美的攻击事件,你记得吗?事实上,你还记得美国花了6个月才宣布全国进入紧急状态吗?从2009年4月开始到2010年4月结束,包括6月H1N1被宣布为流感大流行(世卫组织将其警戒级别提升至6级),有哪个(国家)政府曾向公民发出离开美国的通知?对美国游客关闭边境?没有,丝毫没有。”文章说。
马意骏接着写道,“就像我说的,各位,这里有点儿不对劲。我读到对中国政府的恶毒攻击,声称他们故意隐瞒感染人数,然而无论在哪个国家,类似的疫情暴发情况总是如此,疾病预防控制中心的报告清楚地说明了这一点。美国H1N1猪流感的数据被大大低估了,直到三年后才更新,亲爱的朋友们,因为这就是这种病毒爆发的本质,不管它们暴发自哪个国家。从来都没有足够的人力,没有足够的检测方法,没有足够的药品或医疗用品(能够跟得上)。中国并没有试图掩盖这些困难,所有难点皆为人知,每天都出现在中国的新闻报道里。”
因此,马意骏表示,“这不是一场阴谋,这只是一次悲剧。”
【“各位,这里有点儿不对劲”】
与那些指责中国的恶意攻击声相反,马意骏还认为,世界反而应为中国面对危机时的反应而喝彩。
“各位,这里有点儿不对劲。世界应该为中国前所未有的、广泛的、积极的反应而喝彩。(世界卫生组织官员以及世界各地许多其他政府和卫生官员都应如此。)我站在中国的土地上品读着、亲眼目睹着,无论以什么标准来衡量,这(反应)都相当令人难以置信,更不用说巨大的经济牺牲了。”
不仅如此,马意骏还表示,在疫情爆发一段时间后,仍有言论指责武汉官员没有更早反馈信息。“每个人都有犯错的时候,希望正义能得到伸张,但这并不是要对整个国家政府进行控诉。”马意骏反驳说。
【追问世界:美国可曾受此排挤?】
面对此次疫情,美国政府带头制造和散播恐慌。马意骏不断追问,美国是否曾经受过类似的“待遇”。
在2009年H1N1流感疫情暴发期间,“是否有过任何时长内进出美国的旅行禁令?中国、德国、日本或其他国家是否对美国游客关闭边境?”
“在美国的英国公民是否收到了离开美国的通知?没有。”
“世界是否建议我们孤立美国?关闭美国边境!?没有。”
“美国人是否像现在的中国人一样,受到了排外情绪的攻击和打击?唔,没有。”
因此,马意骏说,“如果你是目前在中国的外籍人士,先不说在武汉,只要你待在这里,而不是马上离开,事实是,你很可能会更安全、更平静、更稳定。你在这个国家里再安全不过了,在这里,几乎每个人都待在家里,尽职尽责地有意识隔离自己。更不用说中国政府决心保护社会、家庭和人民,正付出数千亿的经济代价。”
【新冠病毒不叫“中国病毒”,春天的欢乐终将到来】
“今天,社会中存在一种奇怪的、毫无意义的恃强凌弱的极端主义和激进主义,你应该尽最大努力避免它。”马意骏表示,那些令人发指的荒唐行为是由一小群极端主义激进分子煽动起来的,并不为社会主流所支持。
马意骏还在文章中普及了一些有关新型冠状病毒的知识和信息。他表示,新型冠状病毒不叫“中国病毒”,H1N1也不叫“美国病毒”。马意骏呼吁停止对中国的恶意排挤、抹黑和攻击。
他说,疫情终将过去,春天的欢乐也终将到来。
截止发稿前,这篇文章阅读量仍在不断上涨。
有评论认为,“我想问那些认为这篇文章表达了一种社会立场的人——你们认为怎样的回应是审慎且合理的?你们认为怎样的批评是公平且合理的?从希腊时代开始,谴责行为以及抨击那些谴责者的行为都很容易,部落主义也盛行。(然而)我希望有一天我们能超越它。”
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但文章也获得了更多网友的点赞。↓
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“感谢你有这样非常平衡的观点……我完全同意……”
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“我们需要更多这样不带偏见的声音。谢谢你!”
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“真棒,马意骏,谢谢你写这篇文章。病毒是敌人,但中国人不是。没有人想传播病毒,没有人想成为受害者,相信中国政府,相信中国人民。
 
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“这不是一场阴谋,这只是一次悲剧。”2月5日,自称在华生活近20年的意大利裔美国人马意骏(Mario Cavolo)在社交媒体领英上撰写题为“各位,这里有点儿不对劲:对比美国2009年H1N1病毒与中国2020年新型冠状病毒”的文章引得不少网友关注。

7b168c3ace6a4d6597585d081434f8e5.png


文章将美国2009年暴发的甲型H1N1流感疫情与中国此次新型冠状病毒肺炎疫情进行对此,对中国在面对疫情时采取的积极行动予以称赞,并对那些恶意攻击中国的言论予以驳斥。

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【“这不是一场阴谋,这只是一次悲剧”】

文章开头,马意骏开门见山地提起美国2009年暴发的甲型H1N1流感。

2009年美国暴发甲型H1N1流感疫情,美国政府宣布进入紧急状态。世界卫生组织宣布疫情为“国际关注的突发公共卫生事件”,并将全球流感大流行警戒级别升至6级,这是世卫生组织40年来第一次把传染病警戒级别升至最高。马意骏在文中表示,这场流感最终确诊感染病例达6000万,并在当年导致至少18449人死亡。然而,该文提到,实际情况远比这更糟糕,根据2012年报告最终统计,死亡病例接近30万。

“在2009年H1N1流感暴发期间,我不记得全球各地有发生仇外反美的攻击事件,你记得吗?事实上,你还记得美国花了6个月才宣布全国进入紧急状态吗?从2009年4月开始到2010年4月结束,包括6月H1N1被宣布为流感大流行(世卫组织将其警戒级别提升至6级),有哪个(国家)政府曾向公民发出离开美国的通知?对美国游客关闭边境?没有,丝毫没有。”文章说。
马意骏接着写道,“就像我说的,各位,这里有点儿不对劲。我读到对中国政府的恶毒攻击,声称他们故意隐瞒感染人数,然而无论在哪个国家,类似的疫情暴发情况总是如此,疾病预防控制中心的报告清楚地说明了这一点。美国H1N1猪流感的数据被大大低估了,直到三年后才更新,亲爱的朋友们,因为这就是这种病毒爆发的本质,不管它们暴发自哪个国家。从来都没有足够的人力,没有足够的检测方法,没有足够的药品或医疗用品(能够跟得上)。中国并没有试图掩盖这些困难,所有难点皆为人知,每天都出现在中国的新闻报道里。”
因此,马意骏表示,“这不是一场阴谋,这只是一次悲剧。”
【“各位,这里有点儿不对劲”】
与那些指责中国的恶意攻击声相反,马意骏还认为,世界反而应为中国面对危机时的反应而喝彩。
“各位,这里有点儿不对劲。世界应该为中国前所未有的、广泛的、积极的反应而喝彩。(世界卫生组织官员以及世界各地许多其他政府和卫生官员都应如此。)我站在中国的土地上品读着、亲眼目睹着,无论以什么标准来衡量,这(反应)都相当令人难以置信,更不用说巨大的经济牺牲了。”
不仅如此,马意骏还表示,在疫情爆发一段时间后,仍有言论指责武汉官员没有更早反馈信息。“每个人都有犯错的时候,希望正义能得到伸张,但这并不是要对整个国家政府进行控诉。”马意骏反驳说。
【追问世界:美国可曾受此排挤?】
面对此次疫情,美国政府带头制造和散播恐慌。马意骏不断追问,美国是否曾经受过类似的“待遇”。
在2009年H1N1流感疫情暴发期间,“是否有过任何时长内进出美国的旅行禁令?中国、德国、日本或其他国家是否对美国游客关闭边境?”
“在美国的英国公民是否收到了离开美国的通知?没有。”
“世界是否建议我们孤立美国?关闭美国边境!?没有。”
“美国人是否像现在的中国人一样,受到了排外情绪的攻击和打击?唔,没有。”
因此,马意骏说,“如果你是目前在中国的外籍人士,先不说在武汉,只要你待在这里,而不是马上离开,事实是,你很可能会更安全、更平静、更稳定。你在这个国家里再安全不过了,在这里,几乎每个人都待在家里,尽职尽责地有意识隔离自己。更不用说中国政府决心保护社会、家庭和人民,正付出数千亿的经济代价。”
【新冠病毒不叫“中国病毒”,春天的欢乐终将到来】
“今天,社会中存在一种奇怪的、毫无意义的恃强凌弱的极端主义和激进主义,你应该尽最大努力避免它。”马意骏表示,那些令人发指的荒唐行为是由一小群极端主义激进分子煽动起来的,并不为社会主流所支持。
马意骏还在文章中普及了一些有关新型冠状病毒的知识和信息。他表示,新型冠状病毒不叫“中国病毒”,H1N1也不叫“美国病毒”。马意骏呼吁停止对中国的恶意排挤、抹黑和攻击。
他说,疫情终将过去,春天的欢乐也终将到来。
截止发稿前,这篇文章阅读量仍在不断上涨。
有评论认为,“我想问那些认为这篇文章表达了一种社会立场的人——你们认为怎样的回应是审慎且合理的?你们认为怎样的批评是公平且合理的?从希腊时代开始,谴责行为以及抨击那些谴责者的行为都很容易,部落主义也盛行。(然而)我希望有一天我们能超越它。”
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但文章也获得了更多网友的点赞。↓
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“感谢你有这样非常平衡的观点……我完全同意……”
70fc85dd4d844bd7a16edb9d615c5ada.png

“我们需要更多这样不带偏见的声音。谢谢你!”
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“真棒,马意骏,谢谢你写这篇文章。病毒是敌人,但中国人不是。没有人想传播病毒,没有人想成为受害者,相信中国政府,相信中国人民。
目前为止我还没看到那个国家的政府指责中国这次应对措施。幸灾乐祸的都是那一部分华人
 
对中国政府的数字提出质疑的拥有一颗勇敢的心,健康的脑;对华夏民众抹黑攻击的附着肮脏的灵魂,卑鄙的兽体。
 
这个一定要顶! 别得不说,论点适合我们的是” something's not right with the way humanity is responding to what's happening here. “没人反对在这里批评中国各级政府和贪官污吏, 如果对此事发的所以帖子都是揭露谴责中国各级政府, 那是人道和政治本末倒置或别有用心( fomented by a small group of extremist activists。

government has sent out a notice to its government officials pretty much saying that if they are stupid enough to do the same, they will face the wrath of harsh punishment. I don't doubt it for a moment. Lets contrast to what countless western politicians have gotten away with and remain in office to remind all of us that human error, stupidity and greed is not unique to any particular skin color or race or country. 这句也相当精彩。



"Something's Not Right Here Folks" | A Look at USA 2009 H1N1 Virus Compared to China 2020 Corona Virus

  • Published on February 5, 2020


Mario Cavolo
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加油中国!When the United States 2009 H1N1 swine flu emerged, an international emergency, a declared global pandemic, it eventually infected 60 million and initially killed a minimum of 18,449 cases that year. But the final story of the H1N1 global pandemic was far worse than that, with close to 300,000 deaths, according to the final tallies in 2012 reported by the CDC, as you will read below.
Which is why I am scratching my head at how bizarrely negative forces are attacking China and Chinese people as it engages a remarkably aggressive front addressing this Corona virus outbreak which started in Wuhan, central China. I am forced to ask and answer a few questions.
During 2009 H1N1 outbreak, I don't recall xenophobic anti-America attacks across the globe, do you? In fact, do you recall it took six months for the U.S. to declare a national emergency? Did any government from the onset in April 2009 through the end in April 2010, including the month of June, when H1N1 was declared an international emergency global pandemic, then send out a notice to its citizens that they should leave the United States? Close their borders to American travelers? Nope, not a peep.
Like I said, something's not right, folks. I am reading hateful vicious attacks on the Chinese government for their supposed intentional conspiracy to intentionally under report the number of infections, yet that is exactly and always the case with such flu outbreaks no matter what country and the CDC reports illustrate that crystal clear. The U.S. H1N1 swine flu numbers were vastly underestimated and updated three years later, because dear friends, that is the nature of such viral outbreaks which don't care which country they started in. There is never enough man power, there are never enough test kits, there is never enough medicine or medical supplies. China is not trying to hide these hardships, they are well known, they are being reported on the news daily in China. There are always people who die, thousands of them whom we'll never know if they actually died because of a particular virus. Those are the facts, not any problem unique to China's healthcare system or government.
Its not a conspiracy, its just tragedy.
According to the June 27, 2012 research report followup three years later, it gets much more disturbing when you learn about the CDC's final estimate of the H1N1 virus global death toll. You and I find at this at this article at the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy website, the CDC's 18,449 total deaths number was "...regarded as WELL BELOW THE TRUE TOTAL, mainly because many people who die of flu-related causes are not tested for the disease." So during the 2009 outbreak, was anyone accusing the American medical and government authorities of hiding the numbers? Were Americans with hidden cameras strolling into the Mayo Clinic to PROVE how many people were really dying? The absurdity of these vicious attacks are that whether or not a person specifically does have the Corona virus or some other viral bug presenting as pneumonia, the treatment is the same supportive treatment anyway.
Something's not right here folks. The world should be applauding China's unprecedented, broad, aggressive response. (WHO officials and many other government and healthcare officials across the globe are.) I am on the ground here in China READ IT HERE watching with my own eyes and it is quite incredible by any measure, not to mention an enormous economic sacrifice.
Instead of looking at the will of an entire system of government acting faster than any other government on the planet could, we are one month later, still busy bashing a few local government officials in Wuhan who should have told us a couple weeks sooner. And yes, that is true those local officials screwed up. And by the way, those officials are in deep trouble for it. Just like the recent Puerto Rican politicians who are in trouble when we learned they didn't distribute hurricane emergency supplies that were sent to them to help during last year's terrible hurricane. A disgrace. Individual people screw up all the time and hopefully justice gets served later, but that's not an indictment of an entire country's government. Secondly, on this point, every provincial government has sent out a notice to its government officials pretty much saying that if they are stupid enough to do the same, they will face the wrath of harsh punishment. I don't doubt it for a moment. Lets contrast to what countless western politicians have gotten away with and remain in office to remind all of us that human error, stupidity and greed is not unique to any particular skin color or race or country. "What about..." reactions don't help.
And here's the mic drop for you: "The CDC researchers estimate that the H1N1 2009 pandemic virus caused 201,200 respiratory deaths and another 83,300 deaths from cardiovascular disease associated with H1N1 infections." Total: 284,000 deaths. Shocking, isn't it?
Was there a travel ban for any length of time to and from the United States?
Did China, Germany, Japan or any other country close their border to American travelers?
Today I noticed in the updates that following the United States Department of State policy suggesting U.S. citizens leave China, the United Kingdom embassy just released the same recommendation to subjects of the kingdom.
In 2009, did UK subjects in America get a notice from their kingdom to leave America? No.
Did the world suggest we isolate from America? Close the U.S. borders!? No.
Did Americans get xenophobically attacked and targeted by anti-American sentiments like the Chinese are experiencing now? Um, no.
Fascinating and disturbing to say the least. If you're an expat currently in China, unless you're in Wuhan, fact is that you're most likely safer and more peaceful and more stable by simply staying put than by leaving right now. You couldn't be safer than in this country, where almost everyone is staying home and dutifully isolating themselves with awareness. Not to mention that the Chinese government's decision to safeguard the society, the families, the people, is coming at a devastating economic cost in the hundreds of billions.
I have a friend in Mesa, Arizona. He told me earlier that the big popular China City buffet, a huge busy place, has no customers. Does that make any sense at all?
Let's test our ability to reason, to be rational:
If you were in Miami and you heard that there was a virus outbreak that started in Milan, in central Italy, would you cancel your dinner reservation at the Italian restaurant that night in South Beach? No. Would you buy a pizza next week at Joey's Pizzeria in Delray Beach?
If you were in Singapore and you heard there was a virus outbreak in Dallas, Texas in the central United States, would you stop going to your favorite local Texas southern BBQ restaurant with the owner from Houston, in Singapore?
Would you avoid olive-skinned dark-haired Italian-looking people on the street in Chicago? Would you avoid big guys wearing cowboy hats, cuz they're obviously from Texas in Singapore cuz there's a virus in Dallas and they might have just gotten off the plane? There's a strange senseless bullying extremism and activism in today's society and you should do your best to avoid it and not be a part of it. It is fomented by a small group of extremist activists while definitely not supported by your average mainstream person who is simply exhausted by their outrage-inducing antics.
Finally, here are some straight up, sensible accurate descriptions of this Corona virus which started in Wuhan, China. Its not called the China virus and neither was H1N1 called the America virus. Whether two weeks or two months from now, this flu season type virus will have passed and the joy of Spring will have arrived. Just like every flu season. However, don't misunderstand me. The extra caution and the remarkable response by the Chinese governments and people together to quell the spread of this virus was warranted because, yes it is correct that this corona virus is nastier than the usual annual flu bug, as was H1N1 in 2009. As of now, what we can confidently note the following regarding this Corona virus:
  1. This Corona virus is highly contagious, it spreads quite easily. It binds to lung tissue and so in particular, likes to cause pneumonia, that's what infection of lung tissue is. That's more severe than a respiratory infection which is only in your throat or bronchial tubes.
  2. The Corona virus currently has a 2% death rate. That's a lot higher, around 20x higher, than a more typical annual flu virus with a death rate of 0.1%. However, a 2% death rate is still much lower by comparison to the SARS virus which had a 9% death rate or the MERS virus with a really nasty 37% death rate.
  3. The Corona virus is causing severe symptoms in 10-15% of cases. 80% to 90% of deaths from this virus are happening in elderly patients, mostly with other existing health problems, not younger people. That characteristic by the way, is in contrast to the America 2009 H1N1 swine flu virus which in fact had a higher death rate amongst younger people including children rather than those over 60 years old.
  4. China identified and shared the Corona virus genome in record times, in only days and of course, immediately shared it with all international health and disease organizations. Medical researchers are already discovering that certain existing anti-viral medications seem to be effective against this Corona virus.
  5. Its impossible not to marvel at China's broad and aggressive domestic response directed by the provincial level governments to restrict movement, restrict transportation, restrict business for a period of time combined with the voluntary dutiful cooperation of its 1.3 billion citizens who are in the majority quietly staying at home these weeks to let the virus pass; this model response is already being hailed by the international community as a remarkable unprecedented response setting a new standard in understanding what is possible for future outbreaks in whatever country they may occur. Is it inconvenient and costly. You bet.
Like I said, something's not right with the way humanity is responding to what's happening here. I haven't put my finger on it because well, its certainly complex and the world is upside down in many other ways that I also can't for the life of me understand or explain without ending up writing a very thick book.
But I do know this: It needs to stop. This vicious, political, xenophobic racist attacks and smearing of all things China needs to stop. Its really not helping anyone in the political corridors of Washington nor is it doing anything to help the man on the street who is just concerned with taking care of his family.
My family is originally from the Basilicata region of Italy, the little hillside Italian towns of Potenza and also, Grottola, which is just outside of Matera. They left their home country and moved to America where I was born, in Yonkers, New York. America became their home and it was my home until I left, too. Now over two decades ago, I left the United States, the country I was born in, the country that has plenty to admire and plenty to improve. But I left and I came to China and now China is my home. If you had asked me thirty years ago if this was my life plan on planet earth, I would have said you were nuts or a really bad fortune teller. But that's how it has turned out. I am truly blessed with my lovely Chinese wife and our family living here in Shenyang in China's northeast. You get my meaning? I am a mature adult like many with the powers of observation. I can easily see that whether we are talking about China or the United States or any other country, their societies and their governments have good points and bad points.
The xenophobia needs to stop now. Whether in a couple of weeks or months later, this nasty flu type Corona virus will begin declining and the joy of Spring will arrive. Between now and then if you don't have anything good, anything supportive to say about China or Chinese people, how about you just keep your mouth shut.
Mario Cavolo, Shenyang.
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