加拿大式教育法：老师不逼学生学又不及时把学生成绩告家长。真是急杀了中国移民！

[lujiabai86]

官方（The Royal）报道：安省每年有两百名以上（14 ~20)岁青少年自杀！上周Metro报道：加国大一学生有34%的学生退学！

能再给个青少年吸过marijuana的比例么？
能再给个青少年有过sexual experience的比例么？
能再给个青少年发生first time的平均年龄么？
When peer pressure is so intense, kids may feel compelled to do things they don't really enjoy. For kids, the urge to blend in is much stronger than for adults.
从整体来看，加拿大的基础教育是缺乏国际竞争力的，这是一个不争的事实

 

[ABC28]

能再给个青少年吸过marijuana的比例么？
能再给个青少年有过sexual experience的比例么？
能再给个青少年发生first time的平均年龄么？
从整体来看，加拿大的基础教育不是一般的没竞争力，这是一个不争的事实

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[ccc]

好像你们二位都要南下，有了好去处，仍在为加拿大忧国忧民，实在可赞。

 

[ABC28]

好像你们二位都要南下，有了好去处，仍在为加拿大忧国忧民，实在可赞。

／夫人不想走，没招！过两年再杀个回马枪吧！

 

[shemozhuben]

加拿大越来越依赖卖资源？ Really? 与美国一样，加拿大经济的76%是来自Service sector，一个高度发展经济的特征。Agriculture, forestry, fishing and hunting Mining and oil and gas extraction 加起来只占经济总量的15%左右。

参考资料：http://www40.statcan.gc.ca/l01/cst01/gdps04a-eng.htm

 

[ccc]

／夫人不想走，没招！过两年再杀个回马枪吧！

把你对加拿大的看法讲给她听啊！

 

[Tongjiya]

You have exactly hit the nail on it head. I have discussed this with my husband many times about the difference between the education in Canada/America and the UK/Hong Kong, and what he thinks is that when universal education was developed in Canada and US, it was to serve the large rural population of the time, hence the very long summer holidays (to enable the students to help in the farm in summer - the growing period is short in the northern climate), etc. He told me that when he was young, many young people were able to go into secondary education only because of their families were assured that they could help out in summer. To me, it seems that the model for basic education in North America has never really departed from this mould.

What really amazes me is the extremely low level of foreign-language ability among English-speaking Canadians, despite having French as the second official language. An average school leaver in Britain who has completed his/her O-Level French (about 80% of students there take French as a second language) can generally carry out a decent conversation in French, but here the ability is almost zero. Many French-Canadians told me that they had to be careful when travelling in Britain because they found that people could understand their private conversation in French, while they never run into this "problem" in English Canada! Another interesting observation is that I remember there were French songs in the UK chart from time to time, and when you go to a club, people can sing along to it. I have hardly heard of any French-language songs on English radio stations here.

加拿大的教育是为加拿大经济发展模式服务的（废话，哪个国家不是呢？），现在的加拿大教育非常适合资源密集型经济所需要的一切人才，自然也无人想去扫兴。

 

[Tongjiya]

For this particular point, if I understand correctly (your Chinese is really very good...... and complicated, too. Sometimes I have to read 2 to 3 times with the help of an online translator in order to get a full grasp of the meaning....), I think it is important to recognize that this is perhaps a common problem for smaller economies. I have recently read a book by Lee Kuan Yew of Singapore (I do not agree with his views 100% esp on politics and governance) in which he explained why Singaporean companies should not attempt to develop their own global brands. He made a good point saying that a small economy like Singapore could never have the money or other resources to attract truly top talents at the global level, and therefore will never be able to compete with the big players in the global marketplace. The best role Singapore can play to a supporting role. Canadian companies like Nortel, RIM, etc. face exactly the same kind of problem. This is an inherent weakness that probably no education reform can fix.

问题在于，我所认识的多数中国家长对孩子高等教育的高期望值并不适合资源密集、但在高科技、金融、创意以及并不需要高端人才的零售业领域全都屡战屡败的经济模式。

 

[ABC28]

把你对加拿大的看法讲给她听啊！

谢了！不讨论此事！

 

[ABC28]

加拿大越来越依赖卖资源？ Really? 与美国一样，加拿大经济的76%是来自Service sector，一个高度发展经济的特征。Agriculture, forestry, fishing and hunting Mining and oil and gas extraction 加起来只占经济总量的15%左右。

参考资料：http://www40.statcan.gc.ca/l01/cst01/gdps04a-eng.htm

这76% 的80%是政府赤字！

 

[shemozhuben]

这76% 的80%是政府赤字！

目前加拿大GDP 1.758 trillion，政府赤字多少？

 

[ccc]

目前加拿大GDP 1.758 trillion，政府赤字多少？

同美国政府比较，加拿大联邦赤字还算个事儿吗？

 

[9981]

扯阿扯阿扯阿扯。

数学， 物理， 化学， 生物，方法和方法论, 哪个是中国人发明的？ 西方人发现了这些东西会不知道他们的重要性， 你们在那里鬼扯加拿大教育不好的人自己先反省一下你们的mind set。你那么喜欢做题， 怎么不按照祖冲之的办法演算一遍圆周率阿？你不是喜欢么？你有更好的办法么？

就这个认知水平我看也就是教个技工查不多， 做教导主任都高抬了， 在北京上海这种城市都会被家长骂。

那位特别喜欢指点江山的人， 好像什么都懂， 要是村长愿意，我看您跟村长聊聊，就能学不少东西了。咪咪哥跟你们说话确实是浪费时间

 

[salas88]

扯阿扯阿扯阿扯。

数学， 物理， 化学， 生物，方法和方法论, 哪个是中国人发明的？ 西方人发现了这些东西会不知道他们的重要性， 你们在那里鬼扯加拿大教育不好的人自己先反省一下你们的mind set。你那么喜欢做题， 怎么不按照祖冲之的办法演算一遍圆周率阿？你不是喜欢么？你有更好的办法么？

就这个认知水平我看也就是教个技工查不多， 做教导主任都高抬了， 在北京上海这种城市都会被家长骂。

那位特别喜欢指点江山的人， 好像什么都懂， 要是村长愿意，我看您跟村长聊聊，就能学不少东西了。咪咪哥跟你们说话确实是浪费时间

真TMD狠

 

[ccc]

You have exactly hit the nail on it head. I have discussed this with my husband many times about the difference between the education in Canada/America and the UK/Hong Kong, and what he thinks is that when universal education was developed in Canada and US, it was to serve the large rural population of the time, hence the very long summer holidays (to enable the students to help in the farm in summer - the growing period is short in the northern climate), etc. He told me that when he was young, many young people were able to go into secondary education only because of their families were assured that they could help out in summer. To me, it seems that the model for basic education in North America has never really departed from this mould.

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请问，英国学校都是如何放假，暑假什么时候开始、什么时候结束？