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你们看看下面这个NHL球员协会谈判代表写给球员们的信,汇报这4天与NHL谈判的现状

我读了以后的感觉就是这个Fehr 不是致力于如何Get A Deal Done, 而是在激怒球员,让球员愤怒,让球员们感觉Fehr 做了很难的工作,他们付给Fehr的钱没白付

球员基本属于没脑子的占多数,看了Fehr的信,完全会被Fehr左右,Fehr不是问球员怎么看待Owners 给的Deal, 而是他Fehr看这个Deal 有多么糟糕



我的英文484 有问题,你们英文好,看看我的感觉484 错了:blink:
 
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=409136#YourCallTop
NHL Players' Association executive director Donald Fehr sent a memo to the players following Thursday's meeting with the league:

Today, we met with the NHL off and on over several hours. A number of matters were discussed, including our proposal for a new pension plan, revenue sharing, the players' share and salary cap issues, and the owners' "make whole" concept. Present today were Chris Campoli, Mathieu Darche, Ron Hainsey, Johan Hedberg, Manny Malhotra, and Kevin Westgarth (David Backes was present for part of the day), as well as Mathieu Schneider, Joe Reekie, Steve Webb and Rob Zamuner.

No new proposals were exchanged on pension issues, but we will discuss this issue again tomorrow (Friday). We did receive a proposal on revenue sharing in response to the proposal we made this week, but this subject still needs considerable work.

In addition, we received a revamped proposal covering players' share and cap issues, their so-called "make whole", and player contracting issues. The owners finally did formally give us their "make whole" idea, which in dollar terms is similar to the discussions Bill Daly had with Steve Fehr a few days ago. While a step forward, a significant gap remains. Moreover, at the same time we were told that the owners want an "immediate reset" to 50/50 (which would significantly reduce the salary cap) and that their proposals to restrict crucial individual contracting rights must be agreed to. As you know, these include - among other things - losing a year of salary arbitration eligibility, allowing the team to file for salary arbitration in any year that the player can file, extending UFA eligibility to age 28 or 8 seasons, limiting contracts to 5 years, and permitting only 5% year to year variability in player contracts. Individually each is bad for players; taken together they would significantly reduce a player's bargaining power and give the owner much more leverage over a player for most if not all of his career.

In short, the concessions on future salary we have offered (at least $948 Million to $1.25 Billion over five years, depending on HRR growth) are not enough. We are still being told that more salaries must be conceded, and that very valuable player contracting rights must be surrendered. So, while we are meeting again, and while some steps are being taken, there is still a lot of work to be done and bridges to be crossed before an agreement can be made.

We will review today's discussions over night and tomorrow morning before meeting again with the owners. Following our meeting tomorrow with the league, we will be able to provide a broader update.

As always, please contact us if you have any questions or comments.

Best regards.
Don

On Wednesday night, the NHLPA tabled new offers regarding revenue sharing and the league's "make whole" provision, with the union suggesting a system where the players' share in revenue reaches 50-50 in the third year of the deal.

The NHL and the NHLPA gathered for a fourth straight day of collective bargaining talks on Friday -- the longest run of meetings they've had during these negotiations.
 
谈了四天没有任何进展,蛮好的,球迷省钱了,圣诞节日子更好过了。
 
谈了四天没有任何进展,蛮好的,球迷省钱了,圣诞节日子更好过了。



村长,表讲风凉话了,没有Hockey的冬天,太无聊了

你看看这段,484 在火上浇油啊:mad: 没这样写报告的
Owners在努力Get A Deal, 这个Fehr根本不关心球员有没有球打,他只关心把这事情搞复杂搞黄掉,这样显得他很重要



As you know, these include - among other things - losing a year of salary arbitration eligibility, allowing the team to file for salary arbitration in any year that the player can file, extending UFA eligibility to age 28 or 8 seasons, limiting contracts to 5 years, and permitting only 5% year to year variability in player contracts. Individually each is bad for players; taken together they would significantly reduce a player's bargaining power and give the owner much more leverage over a player for most if not all of his career.
 
工会,你懂的。

村长,表讲风凉话了,没有Hockey的冬天,太无聊了

你看看这段,484 在火上浇油啊:mad: 没这样写报告的
Owners在努力Get A Deal, 这个Fehr根本不关心球员有没有球打,他只关心把这事情搞复杂搞黄掉,这样显得他很重要



As you know, these include - among other things - losing a year of salary arbitration eligibility, allowing the team to file for salary arbitration in any year that the player can file, extending UFA eligibility to age 28 or 8 seasons, limiting contracts to 5 years, and permitting only 5% year to year variability in player contracts. Individually each is bad for players; taken together they would significantly reduce a player's bargaining power and give the owner much more leverage over a player for most if not all of his career.
 
工会,你懂的。

别的工会我不了解,这个NHLPA太混蛋了

NHL30个球队,18只球队亏损,6只刚Balance, 也就6只球队赚钱

这种情况下,球员工会还在压榨老板们,你说怎么办
 
我对NHL和NHLPA很失望。Bettman连续两次在赛季前谈不成一揽子协议,04-05彻底歇菜,这次最好的结局也就半个赛季。
Don Fehr, Mr. Stoppage,对他真的有点无话可说了

With the NHL locking out at midnight on September 15, 2012, Fehr has become the only Executive Director to be directly involved in work stoppages in two sports. Six of the eight contract negotiations he has been involved in have resulted in work stoppages, including five consecutive negotiations between the MLBPA and Major League Baseball.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Fehr

P.S. 碰上Fehr这样的谈判对手估计谁也没办法,只能靠媒体来压他。


听歌吧。。。

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别的工会我不了解,这个NHLPA太混蛋了

NHL30个球队,18只球队亏损,6只刚Balance, 也就6只球队赚钱

这种情况下,球员工会还在压榨老板们,你说怎么办

一个球员一年拿几米,以为他们是开金矿的啊!
 
看谁绷得住吧。
 
我如果是老板,索性度假去。
 
老板们还有其他生意吧?球员们有其他收入吗?

老板还有开门费吧?比如场地,管理人员,概念股一跌也受不了啊,最惨的应该是月光球员。:(
 
老板还有开门费吧?比如场地,管理人员,概念股一跌也受不了啊,最惨的应该是月光球员。:(

;老板们讲广开财源,还会印pinkslip。球员除了打球,有几个象傻大个儿要命那样去开店做生意啊?
 
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