恳请懂法律的进来解释解释:少女被轮奸后为什么警方迟迟不立案 ?

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/04/12/anonymous-on-rehtaeh-parson_n_3069898.html

Hacking collective Anonymous has released new details of the alleged rape and online bullying of Halifax teenager Rehtaeh Parsons. Anonymous had earlier vowed to release the names of four males involved in the alleged sexual assault if the RCMP did not reopen its investigation.

Below is the full Anonymous statement released Friday. None of the claims has been independently verified. The RCMP, which handled the original sexual assault investigation and found there was not evidence to lay charges, has not provided specifics on the evidence they reviewed.

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE -- April 12, 2013 - 12PM GMT

Greetings from Anonymous.

Please be aware of the following facts:

1) One of the alleged rapists has made several public statements admitting that he did have sex with Raetaeh on the night in question. He admits she was inebriated at the time, also that she was throwing up during the act.

2) During his confession, he names three other boys and admits that they too took turns having sex with Rahtaeh that night as well. The names match with those we have confirmed during our investigation.

3) The individual making this confession is the same boy identified in the photograph. He has also admitted to being in the photograph and named the accomplice who took the picture.

4) All information, including screenshots of the confession, have been made available to the police.

5) Two boys have been implicated repeatedly whom we believe are innocent based on numerous testimonies given by individuals with first hand knowledge of the surrounding events.

6) There are multiple witnesses who were classmates of the alleged rapists that can confirm they were shown the photograph of Rehtaeh by them.

7) At the very least, there was a house with a minimum of half a dozen underage students consuming alcohol and engaging in sexual intercourse. What happened in this house resulting in the spread of child pornography. This much the police will agree to. No charges have been filed in regards to this.


Why is Anonymous involved in this case? We are involved because the facts above clearly illustrate that several crimes have been committed in Nova Scotia. A 17-year-old girl killed herself because the police failed to do their jobs and charge a single person for any of them.

Is it necessary for Anonymous to be involved in this case? Yes. For a moment lets set aside the theatrics, the masks and the labels. We are group of concerned citizens that have recognized an injustice in the system. We have taken it upon ourselves to point out that injustice to the public and we are asking the police to correct their incompetent handling of this case--a young girl has already died from it.

An image of a 15-year-old girl having sex was viral in Cole Harbour District High School. Neither the school nor the police dispute this. By legal definition that image was child pornography. By some estimates, hundreds of individuals have already seen the photograph, including many adults. The police have seen the photograph. The fact that this evidence was disregarded as inappropriate for any kind of arrest by the police is unconscionable.

What the police are saying to the citizens of Nova Scotia is clear: Having underage students drinking and having sex in your home is not a crime in our community. Photographs of 15-year-old girls having sex is not child pornography, but if it is, the distribution of that child pornography is not a crime. A 15-year-old girl is capable of giving her consent to sex even after she is inebriated to the point that she vomits while hanging out of a window--it is not sexual assault.

We urge the RCMP to act like guardians , set the proper example for the young men of Nova Scotia and send a clear message: This behavior will not be tolerated in our communities. The women and young girls of Nova Scotia should not have to live in fear or be forced to hide evidence of a rape because they will be called whores.

As we have previously warned, the identities of these individuals have already began to circulate online independent of our own actions. We have done our best to keep those names from being released. Two young men are being implicated in a crime we know they did not commit. Is it illegal for us to release their identities and let the world know that they are innocent? What justice will be made available to them once their names are slandered throughout the world and for all time?

It is not for the police to decide the facts presented here do not constitute a crime. That is the responsibility of a jury. A claim of sexual assault has been made. There is photographic evidence of it. There is an admission that child pornography was distributed throughout the community. One of the individuals who should be charged hasn't even disputed these facts. We are asking--no, we are demanding: Let a jury decide. Follow your own procedures and protect the innocent.

We do not seek vigilante justice. If those who we believe are guilty are exonerated in a court of law, Anonymous will disappear from Nova Scotia.

If we decide to release the names a deadline will be declared at least one week in advance.


We are Anonymous
We are legion.
The honest support us.
The corrupt fear us.
The heroic join us.
Expect us.
 
警察没有起诉并不代表轮奸没有发生, 更不代表轮奸不应该受到谴责。

在前天Harper对此案发表是犯罪而不是欺凌的评论后。 全球黑客组织'匿名'已经联系RCMP, 并且扬言如果rcmp不重开此案, 将公布四个男孩的名字。 在这个案子中, 警察不能将四个男孩绳之于法有不可推卸的责任。

在总理和匿名黑客的双重压力下, 日前RCMP表示鉴于本案得到了新的信息, 他们已经重开此案, 算是给自己找了个台阶。


政府官员介入司法程序,未必是好事。某种意义上说,RCMP重开此案,是给女孩愤怒的家属和支持者们,找了个台阶。

我猜测,如果RCMP把现场的情况和以前的事情公布出来,对死去的女孩子,未必不是伤害,当然,人死了,伤害的只是名誉。

我估计,这个案子最后会不了了之。法院不会买Harper的帐。

我曾经和国内搞预审的警察聊过,按照他们的说法,他们搞预审的,就象要冲进一个罪犯做的房子,一人做案,那个房子相当于有个铁门,警察很难冲入;两人做案,那个房子相当于有个木门,警察比较容易冲入;三人做案,那个房子相当于没有门,警察随便就走进去了;

我前面说过:一般来说,如果真的是轮奸,而且是4个人参与,警察分别讯问4个人时,总会有1-2人说漏,最终找出事实,何况4个都是teenager,心理素质应该很差。但警察经过一年的调查,没有起诉,说明确实证据不足。
 
政府官员介入司法程序,未必是好事。
总理没有要求重开此案, 没有干涉司法。

某种意义上说,RCMP重开此案,是给女孩的家属和支持者们,找了个台阶。
司法独立, 顶不顶得住压力是骑警自己的事情。 没做亏心事, 不怕鬼叫门。 黑客拿到的信息是不是能成为合法证据我不知道, 但是我们不知道警察有没有认真调查。如果有认真调查, 为什么突然又有了新的证据。

我猜测,如果RCMP把现场的情况和以前的事情公布出来,对死去的女孩子,未必不是伤害,当然,人死了,伤害的只是名誉。
No comments. She committed suicide because people called her slut. What can be worse than that? You tell me.

The fact is guys were spreading photos showing fucking her from behind when she was throwing out. Having sex with unconscious people, to me, it is rape. However, the rapers are minors.


我估计,这个案子最后会不了了之。

我前面说过:一般来说,如果真的是轮奸,而且是4个人参与,警察分别讯问4个人时,总会有1-2人说漏,最终找出事实,何况4个都是teenager,心理素质应该很差。但警察经过一年的调查,没有立案。

死者母亲说警察在案件发生一个月后才于四个男孩谈话。 他们有没有机会串供。 You tell me.

Good night
 
Good night

你完全不懂法律。

RCMP只是说reopen案件,还没有说有新证据。新证据是你提供的?

“people called her slut”,这不是强奸/轮奸部分。

现场的情况,你我都不可能比调查了一年的警察清楚,你再愤怒也只是猜测。对于警察的讯问,18岁以下的4个孩子,串供是没有用的,你不懂,就别瞎猜了。

请你嘴巴放干净点,别 you,you 的
 
你完全不懂法律。
no comments

RCMP只是说reopen案件,还没有说有新证据。新证据是你提供的?
http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/04/12/rcmp-reopen-investigation-into-rehtaeh-parsons-case/

Nova Scotia RCMP announced Thursday they would reopen their investigation into the alleged rape of Rehtaeh Parsons, a teenager who later took her own life,
citing “new and credible information.”

“people called her slut”,这不是强奸/轮奸部分。
我是针对你前面那段说揭露真相可能影响女孩声誉说的, 女孩的声誉已经被毁了, 否则她自杀干什么。

现场的情况,你我都不可能比调查了一年的警察清楚,你再愤怒也只是猜测。对于警察的讯问,18岁以下的4个孩子,串供是没有用的,你不懂,就别瞎猜了。
我觉得你没有看很多相关资料就认为警察一定没错。 事实上在此事引起了很多加拿大白人的愤怒。我仅仅在旁观这件事情。

请你嘴巴放干净点,别 you,you 的
really , are you serious, i only said you tell me.

:D
 
事实上在此事引起了很多加拿大白人的愤怒。我仅仅在旁观这件事情。

加拿大白人的愤怒,并不代表合理。加拿大很多白人,对外来移民很愤怒,就合理吗?

我没有觉得警察一定没错,我只是认为,一般来说,如果真的是轮奸,而且是4个人参与,警察分别讯问4个人时,总会有1-2人说漏,最终找出事实,何况4个都是teenager,心理素质应该很差。但警察经过一年的调查,没有起诉,显然有明显的原因。而且这是Police 和 Crown 一起做出的决定。
 
政府官员介入司法程序,未必是好事。某种意义上说,RCMP重开此案,是给女孩愤怒的家属和支持者们,找了个台阶。

我猜测,如果RCMP把现场的情况和以前的事情公布出来,对死去的女孩子,未必不是伤害,当然,人死了,伤害的只是名誉。

我估计,这个案子最后会不了了之。法院不会买Harper的帐。

我曾经和国内搞预审的警察聊过,按照他们的说法,他们搞预审的,就象要冲进一个罪犯做的房子,一人做案,那个房子相当于有个铁门,警察很难冲入;两人做案,那个房子相当于有个木门,警察比较容易冲入;三人做案,那个房子相当于没有门,警察随便就走进去了;

我前面说过:一般来说,如果真的是轮奸,而且是4个人参与,警察分别讯问4个人时,总会有1-2人说漏,最终找出事实,何况4个都是teenager,心理素质应该很差。但警察经过一年的调查,没有起诉,说明确实证据不足。

共党的警察的话你都相信?看来你还真应该冲多点奶粉给他们吃。
 
和我聊天的共党的警察,学历,学识,素质应该比你高多了。

倒是最近国内制造冤案的那个女检察官聂海芬,很象你: 强奸证据无懈可击
http://news.sohu.com/20130409/n372032428.shtml

跟你这样素质的人,那素质是可想而知的。

你除了将一个内容的帖子贴来贴去之外,还能做什么呢?


你呢,也就一不懂装懂的有粪之类的。

象你这样冷血的、断章取义的人渣真应该滚出地球去。
 
穿的性感点的人 ,多数是为了招奸

完事了又告人如何如何,可能

你的这种解释不成立,难道一个人穿得性感一点又或是思想开放一些就该被强奸吗?这是一个多么奇怪的法律,而且你的这种解释让人比粪青还粪青,这是一个什么国家?难道这就是所谓的民主吗?如果是的话,那就是一个操他妈的民主。



被辱者不受到保护,而那些施辱者却仍然逍遥法外?



你懂法律吗?
 
警察的判断是对的 ,这女孩能自杀。

警察的判断是对的 ,她已经死了。



某些?你怎么知道在这一宗上就是某些中的一类? 警察的判断要是对的,这女孩能自杀吗?



什么叫尊重?你就不要跟我讲这两个字了。



我站不站在道德的高地上不需要你来讲。你要是不喜欢,大可不用进来。

OK?
 
对,就是那么回事

没错。

如果一个女孩在街上被强奸了,是因为她穿得性感你家里被盗了,那只能自认倒霉,谁叫你住在那间房子里?
 
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