BlackBerry reports quarterly loss, shares plunge

总结一下就是: 卖国也要卖个好价钱. :)
哈保已将三大油田出卖: 中国一个,马来西亚一个,最近一个卖老美。
 
哈保已将三大油田出卖: 中国一个,马来西亚一个,最近一个卖老美。

那几个在加拿大倒不能算大油气公司,中国买的那个也就算老十。
 
不太明白的是上个季度盈利九千万,这个季度却亏损八千万,但这个季度的手机销售缺比上个季度高。哪位高人可以解读一下。当然BB10的销量有点不尽人意。也许这是市场失望的主要原因

不是高人,到网上看了下BB的报告,my 2cents:

销售虽然上升,成本也随之上升,利润比上季度下降33M.

市场和销售比上季度多花150M.

主要就是这两大因素。

值得特别注意的是有50M的loss是由于委内瑞拉货币兑换率造成的,去除这个因素,BB的结果跟预期基本一致的。

市场反应总是大惊小怪。不过市场就是追逐利益的,也没办法对它要求太高。
 
'Beginning of the end for BlackBerry'
Jun 29, 2013, 03.24 PM IST

BB10-4.jpg

Apple sells as many iPhones in a week as BlackBerry 10s were shipped over three months.

OTTAWA: Thorsten Heins, the president and chief executive of BlackBerry, on Friday recalled that when he announced a delay in the introduction of a new line of phones a year ago, he was told his company was "finished." Not so, he argued then, give us time to get this thing right.

The phones, known as BlackBerry 10s, are now here. But from the results the company announced Friday, BlackBerry has not turned around its fortunes. Just the opposite.

In the first full quarter of sales of the make-or-break BlackBerry 10s, BlackBerry reported that it shipped 6.8 million phones, of which only about 2.7 million were the new models.

Or, to put it another way, Apple sells as many iPhones in a week as BlackBerry 10s were shipped over three months.

"For many, going into these earnings, it was seen as the end of the new beginning," said Anil Doradla, an analyst with William Blair & Co in Chicago. "Now, coming out of the earnings, it looks like the beginning of the end."

BlackBerry's share price plummeted nearly 28% on Friday after it reported an unexpected $84 million loss and revealed the early shipping figures of its new phone. The loss of 16 cents a share was substantially worse than analysts' expectations of a gain of 6 cents, according to a Thomson Reuters survey. Revenue was $3.07 billion, again below analysts' estimates. But it was 15% better than the $2.8 billion for the same quarter a year ago.

When asked during a conference call with investors about BlackBerry 10's reception by customers, Heins said, "We're only five months in."

He added that not all BlackBerry 10 models were available in all markets during the quarter. A version with a physical keyboard, the Q10, went on sale in the United States this month.

Heins also noted the company's planned to grow its software business and said, "There's more to come, more exciting products to come."

But he did warn investors that further losses were likely this year as the company increases spending on BlackBerry 10 promotion and advertising. Heins again asked for time for the BlackBerry 10 to prove itself.

But time might be short for the company that until recently was known as Research in Motion. It was not that long ago that BlackBerry was a dominant force in smartphone sales, with 55.3% of the US market in 2009, according to technology analyst IDC. It also had a who's who of customers, including federal agencies and many large companies.

But Apple's iPhone, with its slick touchscreen interaction and downloadable apps, eroded BlackBerry's position. A Kantar Worldpanel Comtech survey puts BlackBerry's US market share at 0.9%.

The question is whether the BlackBerry 10, which can handle many of the same tasks as an iPhone or similar Android and Windows phones, can recover from its slow start.

Doradla said he was hard pressed to think of any electronics products similar to the BlackBerry 10 phones that overcame a disappointing start and ended up successful.

"It's tough," he said. "If you're looking at precedents, you're just making the case for BlackBerry more awful."

Further worrying investors, Heins and other executives declined to say how many of those BlackBerry 10 phones ended up on store shelves or in warehouses rather than being purchased by consumers. Peter Misek, an analyst with Jefferies in New York, estimated that only 2.3 million of the BlackBerry 10 phones were sold to users.

"When people are actually happy with the numbers, they tell you the numbers," added Charles Golvin, a technology analyst with Forrester Research.

Despite the quarterly loss, BlackBerry is not in imminent danger of collapse. It still has $3.1 billion in cash, and the company has no substantial debt. But its future as a smartphone seller is getting cloudier. Because of its small sales volume when compared with rivals, it does not have negotiating leverage with suppliers, increasing its production costs at a time when it is unable to charge premium prices, analysts said.

Some people say they believe that the company's phone business has long been unprofitable and that BlackBerry's operating profits are tied to its software and services business.

Some analysts, including Misek, said BlackBerry should cut its losses in hardware and concentrate on its profitable businesses. But Heins rejected that idea on Friday, saying that his customers want a one-stop option for their communications needs.

BlackBerry did take one small step away from hardware. Heins said he had canceled work on the BlackBerry 10 operating system for the PlayBook, a tablet computer. The device was introduced with fanfare in April 2011, but only 1,00,000 units were shipped in the most recent quarter. In comparison, Apple shipped an estimated 19.5 million iPads in the first quarter of 2013, according to IDC.

Not all analysts are ready to give up on BlackBerry as a phone-maker. Ramon Llamas, of IDC, said that BlackBerry's turnaround and its switch to a new operating system were not going to be quick.

"Renaissances don't take place overnight," Llamas said. "They can be long and take time."
 
'Beginning of the end for BlackBerry'
Jun 29, 2013, 03.24 PM IST

BB10-4.jpg

Apple sells as many iPhones in a week as BlackBerry 10s were shipped over three months.

OTTAWA: Thorsten Heins, the president and chief executive of BlackBerry, on Friday recalled that when he announced a delay in the introduction of a new line of phones a year ago, he was told his company was "finished." Not so, he argued then, give us time to get this thing right.

The phones, known as BlackBerry 10s, are now here. But from the results the company announced Friday, BlackBerry has not turned around its fortunes. Just the opposite.

In the first full quarter of sales of the make-or-break BlackBerry 10s, BlackBerry reported that it shipped 6.8 million phones, of which only about 2.7 million were the new models.

Or, to put it another way, Apple sells as many iPhones in a week as BlackBerry 10s were shipped over three months.

"For many, going into these earnings, it was seen as the end of the new beginning," said Anil Doradla, an analyst with William Blair & Co in Chicago. "Now, coming out of the earnings, it looks like the beginning of the end."

BlackBerry's share price plummeted nearly 28% on Friday after it reported an unexpected $84 million loss and revealed the early shipping figures of its new phone. The loss of 16 cents a share was substantially worse than analysts' expectations of a gain of 6 cents, according to a Thomson Reuters survey. Revenue was $3.07 billion, again below analysts' estimates. But it was 15% better than the $2.8 billion for the same quarter a year ago.

When asked during a conference call with investors about BlackBerry 10's reception by customers, Heins said, "We're only five months in."

He added that not all BlackBerry 10 models were available in all markets during the quarter. A version with a physical keyboard, the Q10, went on sale in the United States this month.

Heins also noted the company's planned to grow its software business and said, "There's more to come, more exciting products to come."

But he did warn investors that further losses were likely this year as the company increases spending on BlackBerry 10 promotion and advertising. Heins again asked for time for the BlackBerry 10 to prove itself.

But time might be short for the company that until recently was known as Research in Motion. It was not that long ago that BlackBerry was a dominant force in smartphone sales, with 55.3% of the US market in 2009, according to technology analyst IDC. It also had a who's who of customers, including federal agencies and many large companies.

But Apple's iPhone, with its slick touchscreen interaction and downloadable apps, eroded BlackBerry's position. A Kantar Worldpanel Comtech survey puts BlackBerry's US market share at 0.9%.

The question is whether the BlackBerry 10, which can handle many of the same tasks as an iPhone or similar Android and Windows phones, can recover from its slow start.

Doradla said he was hard pressed to think of any electronics products similar to the BlackBerry 10 phones that overcame a disappointing start and ended up successful.

"It's tough," he said. "If you're looking at precedents, you're just making the case for BlackBerry more awful."

Further worrying investors, Heins and other executives declined to say how many of those BlackBerry 10 phones ended up on store shelves or in warehouses rather than being purchased by consumers. Peter Misek, an analyst with Jefferies in New York, estimated that only 2.3 million of the BlackBerry 10 phones were sold to users.

"When people are actually happy with the numbers, they tell you the numbers," added Charles Golvin, a technology analyst with Forrester Research.

Despite the quarterly loss, BlackBerry is not in imminent danger of collapse. It still has $3.1 billion in cash, and the company has no substantial debt. But its future as a smartphone seller is getting cloudier. Because of its small sales volume when compared with rivals, it does not have negotiating leverage with suppliers, increasing its production costs at a time when it is unable to charge premium prices, analysts said.

Some people say they believe that the company's phone business has long been unprofitable and that BlackBerry's operating profits are tied to its software and services business.

Some analysts, including Misek, said BlackBerry should cut its losses in hardware and concentrate on its profitable businesses. But Heins rejected that idea on Friday, saying that his customers want a one-stop option for their communications needs.

BlackBerry did take one small step away from hardware. Heins said he had canceled work on the BlackBerry 10 operating system for the PlayBook, a tablet computer. The device was introduced with fanfare in April 2011, but only 1,00,000 units were shipped in the most recent quarter. In comparison, Apple shipped an estimated 19.5 million iPads in the first quarter of 2013, according to IDC.

Not all analysts are ready to give up on BlackBerry as a phone-maker. Ramon Llamas, of IDC, said that BlackBerry's turnaround and its switch to a new operating system were not going to be quick.

"Renaissances don't take place overnight," Llamas said. "They can be long and take time."

这文章不错,但是标题太讨厌。应该改成

Renaissances don't take place overnight, they can be long and take time.
 
黑莓就走小众市场吧,内部机构再精简一下,维持个6-7千人规模的公司。年销售一百来个亿。等那天三星,蘋果走下坡路时在图东山再起。
 
黑莓就走小众市场吧,内部机构再精简一下,维持个6-7千人规模的公司。年销售一百来个亿。等那天三星,蘋果走下坡路时在图东山再起。

这是很有可能, 不过这样做的话, 可能要大比例裁员.
 
已经在裁,而且会继续裁。看报告,他们还给裁人取了个好听的名字,叫 CORE program:Cost Optimization and Resource Efficiency。

管理者也不是吃素的,为了迎合利益需求什么都做得出来。
 
已经在裁,而且会继续裁。看报告,他们还给裁人取了个好听的名字,叫 CORE program:Cost Optimization and Resource Efficiency。

管理者也不是吃素的,为了迎合利益需求什么都做得出来。

你当这是社会主义啊。
要我说,bbry的员工还是幸运的,那些股东才是最大输家。
 
感觉此处需要向西服来说两句。批判一下资本家,资本制度啥的。
 
你当这是社会主义啊。
要我说,bbry的员工还是幸运的,那些股东才是最大输家。

没有承担风险的能力就不配当股东,你最懂的。
 
没有承担风险的能力就不配当股东,你最懂的。

no
凭啥股东承担大风险,员工p事没有。风险要共担的。生意不好,裁人太正常了。
裁掉一半都算轻的。
 
no
凭啥股东承担大风险,员工p事没有。风险要共担的。生意不好,裁人太正常了。
裁掉一半都算轻的。

员工那里p事没有,股东丢钱,员工丢工作,自古不变,恒久流传啊。
 
普通用户那里肯定没戏,完全没法和苹果三星等竞争。政府企业用户能守住就很好了。
 
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