加拿大没死刑，赶走恐怖分子最好。
本地出生的赶哪去？没其它国籍，月球么？
加拿大实施可取消国籍法律 政府被控违宪反民主
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本地出生的赶哪去？没其它国籍，月球么？
这种玛德为恐怖分子申张的事，LIB NDP现在估计都不敢干。
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宣誓: 效忠+守法
逻辑上本土公民不需要经过这个宣誓(?). 入籍公民需要.
这才是法理上的根本区别.宣誓就有违誓.
契约是西方文明和法理的基础之一. 违誓后合约终止. 作为受害方的加拿大有100%正当权利.
考虑法理, 反对者好像有点极左了. 除非完全推翻公民入籍程序, 不必宣誓, 直接入籍.
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应该发动左派人士, 推翻入籍程序. 然后再反对不迟. 再正义也是需要契约精神来实现的.
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http://www.sfu.ca/education/cels/bilingual/bilingual-corner/bill-c-24.html
First, under the old system, citizenship has always been secure. Whether born in Canada or not, once a person was granted Canadian citizenship, his/her citizenship was secure. Unless he/she obtained citizenship by fraud, no one could revoke it. Even then, a Federal Court judge made that decision after a full court hearing. Under the new law, citizenship can be rescinded for reasons other than fraud, the decision will be made by a citizenship officer, and there will be no opportunity for a live hearing or an appeal.
Second, the new law divides Canadians into two classes: First-class Canadians with no other citizenship or possibility of obtaining another one, and second-class Canadians who have dual citizenship or the possibility of dual citizenship. Interestingly, one may not be aware of possessing a second citizenship. In some countries, as long as you are married to their citizen, or you have a parent or grandparent of that country, you are also a citizen of that country without applying or even knowing about it.
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as a free country, I don't agree with this
"Under the new law, citizenship can be rescinded for reasons other than fraud, the decision will be made by a citizenship officer, and there will be no opportunity for a live hearing or an appeal."
"Under the new law, citizenship can be rescinded for reasons other than fraud, the decision will be made by a citizenship officer, and there will be no opportunity for a live hearing or an appeal."
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说契约，入籍宣誓的内容如下，说我要遵守加拿大法律，但没说可不可以去中东国家违反当地法律，在这偷漏税、打老婆都属于违反加拿大法律，违反契约，都可以开除国籍了？
所以重点不是契约，因为契约里根本没说这事，重点是国籍到底是right还是privilege
I swear (or affirm)
That I will be faithful
And bear true allegiance
To Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second
Queen of Canada
Her Heirs and Successors
And that I will faithfully observe
The laws of Canada
And fulfil my duties as a Canadian citizen.
所以重点不是契约，因为契约里根本没说这事，重点是国籍到底是right还是privilege
I swear (or affirm)
That I will be faithful
And bear true allegiance
To Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second
Queen of Canada
Her Heirs and Successors
And that I will faithfully observe
The laws of Canada
And fulfil my duties as a Canadian citizen.
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政府就是有关部门，法庭就是独立于有关部门和被剥夺公民者外的第三方。一直说的司法独立，对西方民主国家是很重要的根基，如果政府可以凌驾司法上，那就有可能为所欲为，没有顾虑没有约束干自己想干的事
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