有没有从温哥华来的朋友，请谈渥太华与温哥华冬天比较。

[Tongjiya]

如果收入相等的话，如果你们不是真的不差钱，是的，你们的生活质量将大幅度下降。

每栋房平均价格，渥村36万，大温100万。

 

[lifeisfun]

论天气，温哥华是加拿大最好的。所以不用比较天气，谈其他的吧。

是的，全加拿大处了BC那个角，其他地方的气温冬天都偏冷，温哥华是海洋性气候，所以冬天不是那么冷，但它周围有山，所以云飘到那，就会下雨。要是其他条件相当的话，我会搬到那去的。现在就是房价太高，大温的平均房价已经超过了百万，国内的大款还在源源不断涌来，象过江之鲤，所以你可能会感到不爽（周围都是有钱人）。

 

[lifeisfun]

温哥华是世界十大宜居城市前三位的，也是中港台各大富豪趋之若鹜的地方，优点太多太多，缺点太少太少。



即使有人不喜欢冬天的天气，那也是好过上海的阴冷潮湿。至于同ottawa冬天比，我想下雨总好过下雪。



那地方除了房价贵，啥都好。没办法的，有钱人就喜欢那儿。

房价也是这十年涨上去的，有点太离谱。还有那儿的Hi-tech工作不是太多，尤其是搞通讯的。好像只有一些软件公司。

 

[顶顶先]

地震高危险区，跟日本岛一样危险

 

[Tongjiya]

I lived in Vancouver for 10 years and have also lived in all different regions in Canada. I hate Vancouver and do not like living there for a number of reasons.

1. Vancouver's winter is very much like that in Southeast England, rainy and dark all the time. As the sky is overcast on most days from October to April, it feels as if the sun rises very late and sets early. Basically, it is light only from 9:00 am to 3:30 pm from November to February.

2. Vancouver has a Mediterranean-like climate: wet in winter and dry in summer. Therefore, lots of people develop severe hay fever after living there for a couple of years. It is the same climate along the West Coast all the way down to California.

3. Vancouver and BC in general were historically the most racist region towards Asians in Canada. Both the Chinese Exclusion Act and the Japanese Internment before WWII originated from BC. I find that the white people there are still the same today. If you only socialize and work within the Asian community, you will be fine; otherwise expect way more racism than here. I had lots of extremely bad experience of racism when I lived in Vancouver. Ottawa is not perfect, but is paradise when compared to Vancouver as far as racism is concerned. Remember different ethnic groups are treated differently in different parts of Canada and the US. You may hear, for example, black people telling you that Ottawa or the Maritimes are really bad, but it is specific to them, not to you and me. Blacks are fine in Vancouver, but not us.

4. The St. Andrea's fault extends all the way from California to BC, and therefore BC is susceptible to severe earthquakes and even tsunamis.

5. Racism aside, people in BC have an attitude that I find very snotty. If you live here long enough, you will know what I mean.

6. The crime rate is much higher than here, and this is true for both property crimes and major crimes. There are lots more break-ins, car theft and gang-related crimes there. You can check the news and the statistics. I just felt unsafe in a lot of areas in Greater Vancouver.

7. Just like most people have already said, the house prices are just ridiculous in Vancouver, and I believe that the bubble will burst really badly over there.

8. The job market in BC is very bad when compared to Central Canada. There are no big companies or government presence and average pay is at least 30% lower than here (and yet house prices are 3X higher). Coupled with racism towards Asians, the job market is just hell.

9. Traffic is terrible in the Greater Vancouver area. There is no intracity highway because the environmentalists do not want it. The city streets are always in a gridlock. Certain bottlenecks like the bridges connecting the North Shore (West Vancouver and North Vancouver) are basically congested 24 hours a day.

 

[Tongjiya]

I would say it is even worse than Japan because their sense of preparedness is way lower, and people are poorly prepared.

地震高危险区，跟日本岛一样危险

 

[Anakin]

天气总的来说比OTTAWA好,当然我是南方人习惯了闷热高湿的气候. 我家领导就很不适应说喘不上气.冬天广东地区本来就有霉雨一说,所以广东人,香港人很习惯那边.....再有一个就是那边的朋友说的他家孩子上幼儿园ABC歌还没唱利索,老外的孩子都已经会用广东话骂人了...

 

[Anakin]

房价也是这十年涨上去的，有点太离谱。还有那儿的Hi-tech工作不是太多，尤其是搞通讯的。好像只有一些软件公司。

如果LZ是搞海上石油的可以去看看...

 

[ccc]

天气总的来说比OTTAWA好,当然我是南方人习惯了闷热高湿的气候. 我家领导就很不适应说喘不上气.冬天广东地区本来就有霉雨一说,所以广东人,香港人很习惯那边.....再有一个就是那边的朋友说的他家孩子上幼儿园ABC歌还没唱利索,老外的孩子都已经会用广东话骂人了...

广东人也坏，教他们先学会说“丢”。

 

[Tongjiya]

闷热高湿的气候 = Ottawa in summer. Vancouver is never 闷热高湿. In Vancouver, it is either cold and wet or hot and dry.

所以广东人,香港人很习惯那边 - are you sure? I do not like the climate in Ottawa but I was not used to the climate in Vancouver either.

老外的孩子都已经会用广东话骂人了 - Yes, they do because they swear at the Chinese!

Racist examples:

This school trustee in Richmond describes a Buddhist temple as a "Buddha Disneyland":

http://www.richmond-news.com/life/Buddha+Disneyland/3596422/story.html

A current topic: Vancouver is considering restricting Chinese signs

http://www.vancouversun.com/life/Restricting+Chinese+language+signs+Canadian/5990583/story.html

天气总的来说比OTTAWA好,当然我是南方人习惯了闷热高湿的气候. 我家领导就很不适应说喘不上气.冬天广东地区本来就有霉雨一说,所以广东人,香港人很习惯那边.....再有一个就是那边的朋友说的他家孩子上幼儿园ABC歌还没唱利索,老外的孩子都已经会用广东话骂人了...

 

[悠哉客]

I lived in Vancouver for 10 years and have also lived in all different regions in Canada. I hate Vancouver and do not like living there for a number of reasons.

1. Vancouver's winter is very much like that in Southeast England, rainy and dark all the time. As the sky is overcast on most days from October to April, it feels as if the sun rises very late and sets early. Basically, it is light only from 9:00 am to 3:30 pm from November to February.

2. Vancouver has a Mediterranean-like climate: wet in winter and dry in summer. Therefore, lots of people develop severe hay fever after living there for a couple of years. It is the same climate along the West Coast all the way down to California.

3. Vancouver and BC in general were historically the most racist region towards Asians in Canada. Both the Chinese Exclusion Act and the Japanese Internment before WWII originated from BC. I find that the white people there are still the same today. If you only socialize and work within the Asian community, you will be fine; otherwise expect way more racism than here. I had lots of extremely bad experience of racism when I lived in Vancouver. Ottawa is not perfect, but is paradise when compared to Vancouver as far as racism is concerned. Remember different ethnic groups are treated differently in different parts of Canada and the US. You may hear, for example, black people telling you that Ottawa or the Maritimes are really bad, but it is specific to them, not to you and me. Blacks are fine in Vancouver, but not us.

4. The St. Andrea's fault extends all the way from California to BC, and therefore BC is susceptible to severe earthquakes and even tsunamis.

5. Racism aside, people in BC have an attitude that I find very snotty. If you live here long enough, you will know what I mean.

6. The crime rate is much higher than here, and this is true for both property crimes and major crimes. There are lots more break-ins, car theft and gang-related crimes there. You can check the news and the statistics. I just felt unsafe in a lot of areas in Greater Vancouver.

7. Just like most people have already said, the house prices are just ridiculous in Vancouver, and I believe that the bubble will burst really badly over there.

8. The job market in BC is very bad when compared to Central Canada. There are no big companies or government presence and average pay is at least 30% lower than here (and yet house prices are 3X higher). Coupled with racism towards Asians, the job market is just hell.

9. Traffic is terrible in the Greater Vancouver area. There is no intracity highway because the environmentalists do not want it. The city streets are always in a gridlock. Certain bottlenecks like the bridges connecting the North Shore (West Vancouver and North Vancouver) are basically congested 24 hours a day.

生活经验的积累，很全面，赞。

 

[老华侨]

如果你爱一个人，你就推荐TA去温哥华吧；如果你恨一个人，你也推荐TA去温哥华吧。

 

[lifeisfun]

生活经验的积累，很全面，赞。

是的，总结的很全面，LZ可以看看。但有的看法我不能完全同意，象治安，歧视啥的，这些是大城市的通病，美国的城市尤其明显。有些地方治安差，你不去那儿就是了。歧视也是相对的。我觉得加拿大总的来说还可以。所以这一条条的总结，对每个人来说是不一样的，看你的取舍了。总的来说，我是看工作和居住条件，然后是气候，治安。

 

[温哥华来客]

如果你爱一个人，你就推荐TA去温哥华吧；如果你恨一个人，你也推荐TA去温哥华吧。

如果你爱一个人，你就推荐TA去温哥华吧；如果你恨一个人，你也推荐TA去温哥华吧。

“天堂地狱”说，用来形容纽约还凑活，温哥华不在这一档次。

从地理角度讲，温哥华是海滨城市，其地貌特征比渥太华更全面：有高山，大海；江河，湖泊；森林，溪流；平原，河谷。渥太华少了很多。

气候为温湿海洋气候，年降水量约1800毫米，多雨是自然，经常是小雨，且在半夜下。同时是高纬度地区，冬天昼短夜长，夏天昼长夜短，比渥太华明显，这点楼上Tongjiya也提到了。

城市干净，到处是鲜花和绿地（因一半的side是大海，令一半是陆地）。但海水不如中国东海的一些滨海城市，如青岛太平角附近的海水。UBC的所谓“裸体海滩”的海水还有Englishi Bay的海水可以用肮脏来形容。没有很多天然的沙滩。

渥太华不知为什么感觉很脏，不管是下雨还是下雪，下雪尤其为甚。

 

[猫咪快跑]

温哥华冬天是不那么好 我更喜欢渥太华冬天下雪 这样外面看起来也光亮一些 至于气温 那里却是暖和 可是我住在那里的时候 冬天也要穿羽绒服的。不过我还是喜欢温哥华 不是因为气候 而是因为那里的环境和朋友 有机会我会回去那里生活 当然不是因为气候