经历过89风波的举手。。。

[江山]

看了上面的的帖子,感觉是有的人该多多读书, 丰富自身的学识, 了解真相. 在此之前, 整个是三年级老师给学前班儿童讲解如何书写工整 -- 无话可说.

 

[阿搜]

不是说我巴。
六四那会儿我才初二，是不懂事。


Sawol

 

[simplelife]

最初由 江山 发布
看了上面的的帖子,感觉是有的人该多多读书, 丰富自身的学识, 了解真相. 在此之前, 整个是三年级老师给学前班儿童讲解如何书写工整 -- 无话可说.

这也是我为什么懒的回某些人的贴子. 一个人无知不可怕, 他可以去学习. 但是
一个人如果无知加无耻, 那就真是要了命了.
如果我在这说毛泽东是最早主张把中国分成二十七块的, 估计无数砖头就砸过来了. 但是那是历史. 共产党修改伪造的历史总有一天会还给世人它的真面目.

 

[mike]

有的人好像是历史学家，就他知道历史的真相，在说别人无知加无耻以前，先学学猪八戒。

 

[visitor]

胡锦涛的女儿胡小华在美国求学，并以台湾汉字拼音的方式，取了英文姓名Hu Hsiao Hwa，朋友均称她为「３Ｈ」（Triple H）。媒体曾报道，胡小华在美国为JP Morgan工作，不过，该公司已否认。

报道指出，中国在美国的情报人员大多知道胡小华目前人在美国。在一九九九年美国轰炸中国驻南联大使馆时，一些文章还披露，正当胡锦涛对美国行动大加挞伐之际，胡小华却在美国纵情享乐。不过，对於胡小华目前的下落，媒体众说纷纭。

 

[wuwei]

最初由 sawol75 发布
现在只希望加拿大早日实现社会主义。
中国太大，人太多，没有几十年恐怕到不了，还不算
老美中间可能再打两仗。要在国内，估计我的孙子应
该能享受到社会主义的春风巴。

Sawol

加拿大是社会主义

 

[阿搜]

还差一点。

 

[patrickpei]

but most students who attended JUNE 4TH just wanted a better china society. It is a pity not so many students have dreams nowadays.

 

[visitor]

捶兄，面对机枪坦克，人们已经尽力了。

 

[yh_abc]

最初由 patrickpei 发布
but most students who attended JUNE 4TH just wanted a better china society. It is a pity not so many students have dreams nowadays.

You are absolutely right, I am always wondering why Marx is treated as if he was a God in china / Soviet union. To me, he is no more than an economist with his own theory, which is not bought widely here. It is ridiculous to use his theory to explain the complex phenomenon in current economic world.

 

[yh_abc]

China maybe is not using Marx's theory to govern the country currently (that is the fortune to all people), but not until the end of 70's, lots of practices in economic field were governed by his theory, just a quick example, people are not allowed to transport cheap goods from one place to another place for a higher price, because it was called "Tou Ji Dao Ba". As for whether his theory is ridiculous or not in terms of current world, I am not here to argue. But I believe anyone who read some macroeconomics books will better understand what drives the business cycles and what role govenment and central banks can play during the business cycles.

 

[yh_abc]

This is my final note to answer your question, sir !
The essense of Marx's theory is "struggle between different classes", which totally ignores the mutual benefits/trusts that people should establish in a society. I totally agree with you that Marx established his theory under his specific situtation. There are only two things to be worth considering here, 1. It is his own opinion and even though his theory may explained his observations, it is only one explanation from one perspective. 2. If even you agree that his theory is out-dated in terms of long time sinece he created his theory, why in the modern world, govenment in China/Soviet Union still treat it as doctrine?
Also in my personal opinion, I hold Marx (and his followers ) for the responsibility to the fact that China lacks behind western countries.

 

[visitor]

最初由 捶妮春 发布
How can you use current policies to go against Marx's?

即然捶兄都认为马克思主义过时了，不适用于当今世界，不知我党为啥还把它做为维持专政的遮羞布？

捶兄读社论还少，思想没有和中央统一。

 

[patrickpei]

but when i was in tian anmen square, at least i try to do sth for a good future for all chinese (not only a small part of chinese or myself). and it is more dangerous in tian anmen square than saying some ironic words here.

 

[patrickpei]

do not comment on affairs that u just listen some words from whereever. and pretend to know everything and want to judge others. doubting evrything is equal bad as believing everything.