精华 求指点,女儿去哪个大学好,University of Toronto, Mcgill University, Queen University,Life Science

实际上我女儿也被渥大(bio-medicine) 入取了, 只是认学校不如其它三校有名气,就没列上去 请您指点渥大(U of Ottawa) bio-medicine 为什么进医学院的比例高,谢谢。

我来谈谈我的一点个人看法,供讨论。

对于pre-medical本科,除了McMaster的HealthSciences,什么多大, McGill, Queens, McMaster 的life science 进入医学院的比例都很低。选大学不要盲目的追求所谓的名气,那时当不着饭吃的。如果奔着本科毕业就找工作去,就去Waterloo的coop; 如果打算本科毕业继续去美国读博士,那么就奔名校去,例如多大, McGill; 但是如果是奔着医学院去,就不要奔着什么学校的名气去,那个没用,因为决定你能否拿到医学院面试的第一硬件是你的大学成绩GPA(GPA满分4.0,多大医学院入学的平均成绩都是3.9),而不是你就读的学校名气。所以要想进入医学院,就要选一个适中的大学有利于自己获得高的GPA的学校,选择有利于自己拿高分的专业及课程。
从我来看,要想进入医学院,如果能挤破脑袋进入McMaster的HealthSciences当然是第一选择,如果进不了,对于喔村的孩子来说,喔大OU是最佳选择。
第一,pre-medical的这几年,学习非常的辛苦,要使出吃奶的劲把GPA弄高,还要同时做valunteer, 研究及Leadship等很多工作。在OU读书,家长起码在生活后勤方面可以给孩子充分的保障。
第二,从理论上来说, McGill, 多大的life sciences会集中更多牛b的学生,你要想出头会更难,而在OU,当鸡头的机会会更大。安省的学生上McGill的life science孩子会有一种被歧视的感觉,你想想,你的成绩比你同学强多了,别的方面也强多了,你的同学因为是魁省的居民就能进McGillde 医学院,而你却进不了,会郁闷死了。
 
加拿大学医登山指南 (premed 101)

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我来谈谈我的一点个人看法,供讨论。



对于pre-medical本科,除了McMaster的HealthSciences,什么多大, McGill, Queens, McMaster 的life science 进入医学院的比例都很低。选大学不要盲目的追求所谓的名气,那时当不着饭吃的。如果奔着本科毕业就找工作去,就去Waterloo的coop; 如果打算本科毕业继续去美国读博士,那么就奔名校去,例如多大, McGill; 但是如果是奔着医学院去,就不要奔着什么学校的名气去,那个没用,因为决定你能否拿到医学院面试的第一硬件是你的大学成绩GPA(GPA满分4.0,多大医学院入学的平均成绩都是3.9),而不是你就读的学校名气。所以要想进入医学院,就要选一个适中的大学有利于自己获得高的GPA的学校,选择有利于自己拿高分的专业及课程。

从我来看,要想进入医学院,如果能挤破脑袋进入McMaster的HealthSciences当然是第一选择,如果进不了,对于喔村的孩子来说,喔大OU是最佳选择。

第一,pre-medical的这几年,学习非常的辛苦,要使出吃奶的劲把GPA弄高,还要同时做valunteer, 研究及Leadship等很多工作。在OU读书,家长起码在生活后勤方面可以给孩子充分的保障。

第二,从理论上来说, McGill, 多大的life sciences会集中更多牛b的学生,你要想出头会更难,而在OU,当鸡头的机会会更大。安省的学生上McGill的life science孩子会有一种被歧视的感觉,你想想,你的成绩比你同学强多了,别的方面也强多了,你的同学因为是魁省的居民就能进McGillde 医学院,而你却进不了,会郁闷死了。

Really? I am not sure if McGill has such a strong preference for Quebec students. It is an English university. As far as I know, it has never been a favor of Quebec government, compared to other French universities. The school's climate is quite different from that of U.T. My colleague who got a degree in U.T told me McGill caters more for students' interests.
 
Hoping to get into med school?
http://oncampus.macleans.ca/education/2009/07/10/hoping-to-get-into-med-school/

In 2006/2007, almost a third of all med school applicants from Quebec landed a spot
in med school. In-province applicants to McGill had a better chance of getting into med school than not, with a 57.1% success rate. In 2005/2006, the success rate was even higher: 76.3 per cent. Yes, that means 3/4 in-province applicants to McGill landed a spot in med school.
 
Really? I am not sure if McGill has such a strong preference for Quebec students. It is an English university. As far as I know, it has never been a favor of Quebec government, compared to other French universities. The school's climate is quite different from that of U.T. My colleague who got a degree in U.T told me McGill caters more for students' interests.
上面都讨论那么多了,楼上还不知道。McGill大学普通本科招生倒没有好大的歧视性, McGill的医学院主要只招魁省居民。比如说医学院招80人,其中70个是给魁省的,10个是给美国学生加上整个加拿大其它所有省的学生,有时给美国学生的指标都比给安省的多。
 
Hoping to get into med school?
Don’t be born in Ontario

http://oncampus.macleans.ca/education/2009/07/10/hoping-to-get-into-med-school/
For med school hopefuls, Ontario might seem like the perfect province to live in.

There are 17 med schools in the country. Six of those are in Ontario, more than any other province. But as I recently discovered, being born in Ontario is actually a huge handicap.

Most med schools prefer applicants from their own province. It makes sense: if you train local doctors, you produce local doctors. It’s not unusual to reserve 85 percent or even 90 percent of the available seats for in-province applicants. Most med schools even have higher entrance requirements for out-of-province applicants.

Everyone likes their own brand.

Except for Ontario. Not a single med school in Ontario reserves spots for Ontario applicants.

On the surface, the Northern Ontario School of Medicine and the Schulich School of Medicine & Dentistry at the University of Western Ontario might seem like exceptions to the rule. On it’s website, Northern says that it encourages applications from “students who are from Northern Ontario and/or students who have a strong interest in and aptitude for practicing medicine in northern urban, rural and remote communities.” Western Ontario gives special consideration to applicants from “rural/regional communities in Southwestern Ontario.”

But neither of these med schools actually reserve spots for in-province applicants. Not to mention, those “rural and remote” communities that Northern Ontario mentions could actually be anywhere across Canada.

McMaster’s policy is a bit more complicated. They don’t actually reserve med school spots for in-province applicants. Instead, they award 90 percent of interview positions for Ontario residents.

Yeah, I know. I had to read that twice, too.

It means that once you reach the interview stage, it doesn’t matter which province you’re from.

Even if McMaster offered a genuine advantage to in-province applicants, it wouldn’t make much of a difference anyway. With over 4500 applicants and a success rate of 4.9 per cent in 2006/2007, getting into McMaster is like winning the med school lottery.

Compare this to the College of Medicine at the University of Saskatchewan, which reserves 90 per cent of its seats for local residents. Med school hopefuls in Saskatchewan are only competing against applicants from their province. Ontario applicants are competing against the whole country.

Just look at the numbers. In 2006/2007, almost a third of all med school applicants from Quebec landed a spot in med school. In-province applicants to McGill had a better chance of getting into med school than not, with a 57.1% success rate. In 2005/2006, the success rate was even higher: 76.3 per cent. Yes, that means 3/4 in-province applicants to McGill landed a spot in med school. Too bad my Quebec-born parents didn’t raise me in their native province.

Take a look at the rest of Canada. The success rates of med school applicants, by province, are roughly 1/3 across most of the country. This is true of Manitoba (with an overall success rate of 33.7 per cent), applicants from Nova Scotia (32.4 per cent), New Brunswick (32.6 per cent), Newfoundland and Labrador (31.4 per cent), and Alberta (33.9 per cent).

Canada’s North has the best numbers of all. Applicants from Yukon, the Northwest Territories and Nunavut had a combined success rate of 41.2 per cent in 2006/2007. Meaning, med school hopefuls in the North had the highest provincial success rate. All 17 of them.

The chances of getting into med school aren’t as horrible as some people might think.

Unless you live in Ontario. At 19.7 per cent, it has the lowest success rate of any province in the country.

I’m seriously considering moving to Saskatchewan. Or Alberta. Or maybe Manitoba
 
Don’t be born in Ontario

http://oncampus.macleans.ca/education/2009/07/10/hoping-to-get-into-med-school/

For med school hopefuls, Ontario might seem like the perfect province to live in.



There are 17 med schools in the country. Six of those are in Ontario, more than any other province. But as I recently discovered, being born in Ontario is actually a huge handicap.



Most med schools prefer applicants from their own province. It makes sense: if you train local doctors, you produce local doctors. It’s not unusual to reserve 85 percent or even 90 percent of the available seats for in-province applicants. Most med schools even have higher entrance requirements for out-of-province applicants.



Everyone likes their own brand.



Except for Ontario. Not a single med school in Ontario reserves spots for Ontario applicants.



On the surface, the Northern Ontario School of Medicine and the Schulich School of Medicine & Dentistry at the University of Western Ontario might seem like exceptions to the rule. On it’s website, Northern says that it encourages applications from “students who are from Northern Ontario and/or students who have a strong interest in and aptitude for practicing medicine in northern urban, rural and remote communities.” Western Ontario gives special consideration to applicants from “rural/regional communities in Southwestern Ontario.”



But neither of these med schools actually reserve spots for in-province applicants. Not to mention, those “rural and remote” communities that Northern Ontario mentions could actually be anywhere across Canada.



McMaster’s policy is a bit more complicated. They don’t actually reserve med school spots for in-province applicants. Instead, they award 90 percent of interview positions for Ontario residents.



Yeah, I know. I had to read that twice, too.



It means that once you reach the interview stage, it doesn’t matter which province you’re from.



Even if McMaster offered a genuine advantage to in-province applicants, it wouldn’t make much of a difference anyway. With over 4500 applicants and a success rate of 4.9 per cent in 2006/2007, getting into McMaster is like winning the med school lottery.



Compare this to the College of Medicine at the University of Saskatchewan, which reserves 90 per cent of its seats for local residents. Med school hopefuls in Saskatchewan are only competing against applicants from their province. Ontario applicants are competing against the whole country.



Just look at the numbers. In 2006/2007, almost a third of all med school applicants from Quebec landed a spot in med school. In-province applicants to McGill had a better chance of getting into med school than not, with a 57.1% success rate. In 2005/2006, the success rate was even higher: 76.3 per cent. Yes, that means 3/4 in-province applicants to McGill landed a spot in med school. Too bad my Quebec-born parents didn’t raise me in their native province.



Take a look at the rest of Canada. The success rates of med school applicants, by province, are roughly 1/3 across most of the country. This is true of Manitoba (with an overall success rate of 33.7 per cent), applicants from Nova Scotia (32.4 per cent), New Brunswick (32.6 per cent), Newfoundland and Labrador (31.4 per cent), and Alberta (33.9 per cent).



Canada’s North has the best numbers of all. Applicants from Yukon, the Northwest Territories and Nunavut had a combined success rate of 41.2 per cent in 2006/2007. Meaning, med school hopefuls in the North had the highest provincial success rate. All 17 of them.



The chances of getting into med school aren’t as horrible as some people might think.



Unless you live in Ontario. At 19.7 per cent, it has the lowest success rate of any province in the country.



I’m seriously considering moving to Saskatchewan. Or Alberta. Or maybe Manitoba



Then Good luck to you all.
 
感谢你的热心答复。我觉得电脑和另外一个专业相结合,应该还挺有前途的。电脑+财务,电脑 +医学,电脑+ 数学。



这个主意好:cool:!主修一科(医,财务,数学),副学电脑。医学院进不去,还可以直接找IT方面的工作。一点时间都不耽误。不过学电脑,不容易拿高分。

是不是学 LIFE SCIENCE的进不去医学院,还可以转学作Dietician/NutritionistPhysiotherapy之类。这方面有没有懂的,给科普一下。

 
这个孩子是很好。年轻做什么都能做得好。50-60岁的时候,能保持稳定下去,就不容易了。很多传统的工作,会计,医生,老师在这个年龄就会很稳定。

同意你的说法,但是,这孩子的资产已有三百万(他妈妈告诉我的),再干十年,差不多了。不要总是怕老了咋办。有趣的是,这孩子最大特点是打游戏+胆大。
朋友还讲,第一个一百万,温保有了,第二个一百万,可适当享受,第三个一百万,生活已有正常水平的的保证了。医生也要干十年,才能如此吧?
我是说,万一孩子没学上医,我们可以让自己和孩子都不太受伤!学医要5-7年的入学准备,6-8年的拿证过程,3-5年的开诊扎根过程,快二十年,天天要操心,那时年迈的我们只会笑我们今天的想法太痴太窄。
 
这个主意好:cool:!主修一科(医,财务,数学),副学电脑。医学院进不去,还可以直接找IT方面的工作。一点时间都不耽误。不过学电脑,不容易拿高分。



是不是学 LIFE SCIENCE的进不去医学院,还可以转学作Dietician/NutritionistPhysiotherapy之类。这方面有没有懂的,给科普一下。






世上无难事,只要肯登攀 ;););)

有个榜样:

申请/进入McGill University医学院经历和过程
 
20%的录取率,很高了:eek:。我们当年高考的录取率也就是10% -20%

这个base是指坚持到3-4年后至少自以为成绩还可以,达到报医学院cut-off (GPA > 3.6)。多半大学一年级以学医为目标的,坚持不到去争取这个20%。
 
我来谈谈我的一点个人看法,供讨论。

对于pre-medical本科,除了McMaster的HealthSciences,什么多大, McGill, Queens, McMaster 的life science 进入医学院的比例都很低。选大学不要盲目的追求所谓的名气,那时当不着饭吃的。如果奔着本科毕业就找工作去,就去Waterloo的coop; 如果打算本科毕业继续去美国读博士,那么就奔名校去,例如多大, McGill; 但是如果是奔着医学院去,就不要奔着什么学校的名气去,那个没用,因为决定你能否拿到医学院面试的第一硬件是你的大学成绩GPA(GPA满分4.0,多大医学院入学的平均成绩都是3.9),而不是你就读的学校名气。所以要想进入医学院,就要选一个适中的大学有利于自己获得高的GPA的学校,选择有利于自己拿高分的专业及课程。
从我来看,要想进入医学院,如果能挤破脑袋进入McMaster的HealthSciences当然是第一选择,如果进不了,对于喔村的孩子来说,喔大OU是最佳选择。
第一,pre-medical的这几年,学习非常的辛苦,要使出吃奶的劲把GPA弄高,还要同时做valunteer, 研究及Leadship等很多工作。在OU读书,家长起码在生活后勤方面可以给孩子充分的保障。
第二,从理论上来说, McGill, 多大的life sciences会集中更多牛b的学生,你要想出头会更难,而在OU,当鸡头的机会会更大。安省的学生上McGill的life science孩子会有一种被歧视的感觉,你想想,你的成绩比你同学强多了,别的方面也强多了,你的同学因为是魁省的居民就能进McGillde 医学院,而你却进不了,会郁闷死了。

:cool: 明白人。。。。
 
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