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  • 主题发起人 主题发起人 CCL
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Not far. Just down the highway in Ontario. I did stay in Ottawa for 18 years though. lol

搬哪里了?除了大多伦多地区,或者kingston,俺也打算找个新地方哈。
 
搬哪里了?除了大多伦多地区,或者kingston,俺也打算找个新地方哈。

Waterloo/Kichener, maybe? :p
 
Hi CCL, OMG, took me more than an hour to go through the posts. More than 500 of them. I am a 理工男 with three degrees and feel fit in to say something about the situation.

1. You should tell your 理工男 that life sucks and very few can make it in the business world. His company's chance of success is nil to less than 1%. As a high tech company owner, I know that well. He's better off suck it up in a tech firm in Ottawa. During the hi-tech crash about 10 years ago, there are over 2,000 companies started in Ottawa by guys just like your 理工男 of all ethnics. How many succeeded? Probably less than 20 with close to $1 billion poured into those companies. How many Chinese ones succeeded? 0.5 I think.

2. If the whole world can stay as upper middle class, why the hell your 理工男 can not be a normal Joe? Your 理工男 does not have what it takes to win. He should have a closer look at himself.

3. What he knows in terms of technologies is not very relevant. It's all luck and how you are viewed in customers' eyes.

4. I had the same idea to go back to China ten years ago. My wife calmly told me "Sign the divorce papers before you go, I do not want to worry about you all the time." I am pretty thankful for the decision my wife took. Our company did well in Canada. If your 理工男 want to start a company, do it in Canada, that Canadian company's success will boost his ego to the max.

5. I challenge ANYONE of Chinese men who go back to China that they are not looking for romantic encounters deep in their hearts. Everyone of those 海归 are basically dirty old man looking for fame and a good feeling about themselves. Egos!

6. Tell your 理工男 forget about the stupid idea of a great successful company and his oversized ego!! The glory can never be achieved for him now. The glory and ego are for man and woman under 30! If your 理工男 got successful, the comment is "oh finally he got it".

For the best of your situation, you need to make the decision for your 理工男. Tell your 理工男 to move his ass and get a real job and suck it up to life. He has responsibilities to the family other than his pitiful ego to be "successful". He need to take his fxx head off the sands and get real.

jstar 大哥说得很有道理, 不过如果所有有创业潜质的国男都去政府混吃混喝, 咱村可真成了村子了, 北方硅谷就不好意思说了. 您不也成功了么?
 
Hi CCL, OMG, took me more than an hour to go through the posts. More than 500 of them. I am a 理工男 with three degrees and feel fit in to say something about the situation.

1. You should tell your 理工男 that life sucks and very few can make it in the business world. His company's chance of success is nil to less than 1%. As a high tech company owner, I know that well. He's better off suck it up in a tech firm in Ottawa. During the hi-tech crash about 10 years ago, there are over 2,000 companies started in Ottawa by guys just like your 理工男 of all ethnics. How many succeeded? Probably less than 20 with close to $1 billion poured into those companies. How many Chinese ones succeeded? 0.5 I think.

2. If the whole world can stay as upper middle class, why the hell your 理工男 can not be a normal Joe? Your 理工男 does not have what it takes to win. He should have a closer look at himself.

3. What he knows in terms of technologies is not very relevant. It's all luck and how you are viewed in customers' eyes.

4. I had the same idea to go back to China ten years ago. My wife calmly told me "Sign the divorce papers before you go, I do not want to worry about you all the time." I am pretty thankful for the decision my wife took. Our company did well in Canada. If your 理工男 want to start a company, do it in Canada, that Canadian company's success will boost his ego to the max.

5. I challenge ANYONE of Chinese men who go back to China that they are not looking for romantic encounters deep in their hearts. Everyone of those 海归 are basically dirty old man looking for fame and a good feeling about themselves. Egos!

6. Tell your 理工男 forget about the stupid idea of a great successful company and his oversized ego!! The glory can never be achieved for him now. The glory and ego are for man and woman under 30! If your 理工男 got successful, the comment is "oh finally he got it".

For the best of your situation, you need to make the decision for your 理工男. Tell your 理工男 to move his ass and get a real job and suck it up to life. He has responsibilities to the family other than his pitiful ego to be "successful". He need to take his fxx head off the sands and get real.

哈哈哈 right on!!! :cool::cool::D:D
 
jstar 大哥说得很有道理, 不过如果所有有创业潜质的国男都去政府混吃混喝, 咱村可真成了村子了, 北方硅谷就不好意思说了. 您不也成功了么?

显然,你没好好读Jstar大哥的发言,他那一贴非常全面,你这问题大哥早回答了,还给了数据。
 
新衣服别人都说好,只有皇帝觉得不咋地。

架不住小男孩有话直说了。
 
显然,你没好好读Jstar大哥的发言,他那一贴非常全面,你这问题大哥早回答了,还给了数据。

我知道他是好心, 我想说的是如果有人还有锐气还是可以闯一闯的, 40开始创业的也有成功的, 我知道一个老中在这里做一个事业很成功,

-科技公司: 是.
-高科技公司: 仁者见仁, 智者见智了.

总而言之, 多用乐观积极的心态去看问题, 机会或许就在眼前.
 
我知道他是好心, 我想说的是如果有人还有锐气还是可以闯一闯的, 40开始创业的也有成功的, 我知道一个老中在这里做一个事业很成功,



-科技公司: 是.

-高科技公司: 仁者见仁, 智者见智了.



总而言之, 多用乐观积极的心态去看问题, 机会或许就在眼前.



嗯,是见仁见智的事,没个定论,就是赞叹Jstar大哥那个发言文辞和语调太给力了:D:D:D
 
钱在哪儿,人去哪儿。

资源在哪,公司开哪。

没什么资源的话,拼技术,拼制度,那还是加拿大好一点吧?
 
钱在哪儿,人去哪儿。

资源在哪,公司开哪。

没什么资源的话,拼技术,拼制度,那还是加拿大好一点吧?

jstar 所说的高科技startup公司生存率低绝对是事实. 不过能把钱圈到干几年也是一种成功. 有这本事, 即使最后公司不能存活, 再回去上班应该不难. 认识好几个这样的.
 
jstar 所说的高科技startup公司生存率低绝对是事实. 不过能把钱圈到干几年也是一种成功. 有这本事, 即使最后公司不能存活, 再回去上班应该不难. 认识好几个这样的.

挺好,人生就在于不断地折腾哈。
 
挺好,人生就在于不断地折腾哈。

其实不管是什么样的Startup, 成功与否主要的不是它本身能提供的技术和服务,而是能否组成一个团队, 组成一个坚固的利益链条, 很多理工男很聪明,不成功往往是过于强调技术的重要性和过高评估自己在未来公司成功后所站的利益.

让在利益链条上的人或环节各自发挥所长, 才是成功的基础.
 
其实不管是什么样的Startup, 成功与否主要的不是它本身能提供的技术和服务,而是能否组成一个团队, 组成一个坚固的利益链条, 很多理工男很聪明,不成功往往是过于强调技术的重要性和过高评估自己在未来公司成功后所站的利益.

让在利益链条上的人或环节各自发挥所长, 才是成功的基础.

:cool:很好的生态理论啊!成功经验之谈哈。

唉,楼主的理工男却快让自己生态链条上的最重要的一环要断掉了。所以jstar给出的预告很有价值。
 
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