CFCs, Not Carbon Dioxide, Caused Global Warming(全球变暖的祸首不是二氧化碳而是CFCs)

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CFCs, Not Carbon Dioxide, Caused Global Warming - Paper
By News Staff | May 30th 2013 01:59 PM | 4 comments

Chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs), known to deplete ozone, are also to blame for global warming since the 1970s, according to a paper in the International Journal of Modern Physics B.
The statistical analysis found that CFCs are the key driver in global climate change, rather than carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions, which the author says would explain why temperature has not continued to rise as CO2 has - CFCs have gone down a lot.

The findings are based on statistical analyses of observed data from 1850 up to the present time, the cosmic-ray-driven electron-reaction (CRE) hypothesis of ozone depletion by Professor Qing-Bin Lu, a professor of physics and astronomy, biology and chemistry in Waterloo's Faculty of Science, and his previous research into Antarctic ozone depletion and global surface temperatures.
"Conventional thinking says that the emission of human-made non-CFC gases such as carbon dioxide has mainly contributed to global warming. But we have observed data going back to the Industrial Revolution that convincingly shows that conventional understanding is wrong," said Lu. "In fact, the data shows that CFCs conspiring with cosmic rays caused both the polar ozone hole and global warming.
"Most conventional theories expect that global temperatures will continue to increase as CO2 levels continue to rise, as they have done since 1850. What's striking is that since 2002, global temperatures have actually declined – matching a decline in CFCs in the atmosphere. My calculations of CFC greenhouse effect show that there was global warming by about 0.6 °C from 1950 to 2002, but the earth has actually cooled since 2002. The cooling trend is set to continue for the next 50-70 years as the amount of CFCs in the atmosphere continues to decline."

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Chlorofluorocarbons are to blame for global warming since the 1970s and not carbon dioxide, according to a paper in the International Journal of Modern Physics B this week. This graph projects the predicted path of global temperatures and sees a decline as a result of depletion of CFC's in the atmosphere. Credit: Qing-Bin Lu, University of Waterloo
"It was generally accepted for more than two decades that the Earth's ozone layer was depleted by the sun's ultraviolet light-induced destruction of CFCs in the atmosphere," he said. "But in contrast, CRE theory says cosmic rays – energy particles originating in space – play the dominant role in breaking down ozone-depleting molecules and then ozone."
Lu's theory has been confirmed by ongoing observations of cosmic ray, CFC, ozone and stratospheric temperature data over several 11-year solar cycles. "CRE is the only theory that provides us with an excellent reproduction of 11-year cyclic variations of both polar ozone loss and stratospheric cooling," said Professor Lu. "After removing the natural cosmic-ray effect, my new paper shows a pronounced recovery by ~20% of the Antarctic ozone hole, consistent with the decline of CFCs in the polar stratosphere."
By proving the link between CFCs, ozone depletion and temperature changes in the Antarctic, Professor Lu was able to draw almost perfect correlation between rising global surface temperatures and CFCs in the atmosphere.
"The climate in the Antarctic stratosphere has been completely controlled by CFCs and cosmic rays, with no CO2 impact. The change in global surface temperature after the removal of the solar effect has shown zero correlation with CO2 but a nearly perfect linear correlation with CFCs - a correlation coefficient as high as 0.97."
Data recorded from 1850 to 1970, before any significant CFC emissions, show that CO2 levels increased significantly as a result of the Industrial Revolution, but the global temperature, excluding the solar effect, kept nearly constant. The conventional warming model of CO2, suggests the temperatures should have risen by 0.6°C over the same period, similar to the period of 1970-2002.
The analyses indicate the dominance of Lu's CRE theory and the success of the Montreal Protocol on Substances that Deplete the Ozone Layer.

http://www.science20.com/news_articles/cfcs_not_carbon_dioxide_caused_global_warming_paper-113528
 
滑铁卢大学的卢教授这个发现如果得到科学界认可,那么那些控制、降低二氧化碳排量的“新技术”将成为历史,将成为历史笑话,几十年来人类让二氧化碳躺着来回反复中抢,将成为耗资最大的笑话。
那些以毕生精力反对一切排放二氧化碳的机器设置的政客、社会活动家,比如戈尔同学,铃木同学,情何以堪?
这个论文会打破很多人饭碗,预计会受到强烈批判 ;)
 
维基百科
氯氟烃(英语:Chlorofluorocarbons簡稱:CFC(s)),又稱氟氯烴、氯氟碳化合物、氟氯碳化合物、氟氯碳化物、氯氟化碳,是一組由組成的鹵代烷
氟利昂就是这组氯氟烃的一种。和控制二氧化碳有京都议定书一样,控制CFCs有国际协议蒙特利尔议定书,与京都议定书不一样的是蒙特利尔议定书执行得很好,大多数国家都禁止CFCs的使用了,冰箱也找到不会影响环境的新雪种代替氟利昂,所以CFCs在大气含量下降,而二氧化碳的含量仍然增加,卢教授发现2002年以后全球实际在变冷,和CFCs的变化相一致,而与CO2的变化没关联。
 
CFC啊, COW, 原来全球变暖是RIVEN干的 ...
 
好聳動的標題. 譬如說今天一個人走路, 突然顧著看美女走光, 一頭撞在電線竿上了.
有的人說責任完全在電線竿, 有的人說責任完全在美女... 怎麼不說兩個都有責任啊?
 
好聳動的標題. 譬如說今天一個人走路, 突然顧著看美女走光, 一頭撞在電線竿上了.
有的人說責任完全在電線竿, 有的人說責任完全在美女... 怎麼不說兩個都有責任啊?
看不懂你这个比喻。
科学就是科学,一是一二是二,不带各打五十大板的
 
再多看几篇,就不会这么激动了。
 
對不起反應過度, 本以為是反科學的某些霉體又在聳人聽聞,
自己查了資料, 原來文章本身的標題真的這麼說. 所以我們只須要看研究本身的可靠性就可以了.
這篇 paper 要花錢才能看到, 但好在這位教授在 2010 年已經發表了類似的發現, 免費:
http://www.science.uwaterloo.ca/~qblu/qblu_website/Research_files/QingBinLu.pdf

以前我們學到的都是 CO2 促成暖化, 因為它可以吸收太陽光, 就像其他的溫室氣體 methane 一樣.
維基上面可以看見各種溫室氣體對暖化的貢獻:
Water: 36 – 72%
Carbon dioxide: 9 – 26%
Methane: 4 – 9%
Ozone: 3 – 7%
相信以前這方面的研究一定不少.

現在這篇研究翻案了, 他說暖化和二氧化碳無關, "都是" CFC 的關係.
首先我們要疑問的是 水 和 甲烷, 臭氧 現在要擺哪裡.
但從文章的那統計來看, 似乎只看 CFC 就可以預測溫度了:
CFC - 100%
Water - 0%
CO2 - 0%
Methane - 0%
Ozone- 0%
這轉變實在讓人難以點頭.
而且預測什麼未來的五 ~ 七十年地球會變冷, 這也太有自信了~~

而且文章主要是從統計的角度看. 有時候兩件事情看來是緊密相關的, 實際上不互為因果.
例如一個美女走光, 旁邊一男的撞在電線竿上, 大家就說是因為看這美女才撞上的.
但也可能這男的正在想心事, 或者是個盲人.
CFC 濃度下降的這幾年, 會不會有其他原因讓地球暖化暫停? (甚至"變冷"一點點)

當然希望這位教授繼續研究, 科學界也把暖化的原因挖得更清楚.
 
RIVEN是坏淫
 
因为cfcs热情似火
 
CFC 本來就知道是一種溫室氣體, CO2 也是, 這就是為什麼自己一開始說為什麼只怪 CFC 不怪 CO2, methane 等等.
而且先前的共識是大氣中 CFC 的含量小, 對暖化的影響遠小於其他溫室氣體.

因此現在支持 "CFC = 1970 年以來一切暖化的原因" 的論點必須 証明CFC 有能力使地球暖化 0.6 度.
上面 2010 的那篇論文裡面的確有提到這一部份 (figure 6 那裡), 但裡面用的 climate model 相當的... 有藝術性.
我想今後對這篇文章的質疑應該多來自這裡.

另外說 CO2 對暖化沒影響, 作者舉了兩個時間點 1850-1930, 2002-2012, 這兩段時間裡全球溫度變化不大, 但 CO2 濃度上升.
這是 cherry picking. 全球溫度變化可以看這裡:

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繁体字老大说的好专业。。。

作为文盲,我只想发表一点看法:全球变暖对加拿大应该是个好事情。。。
以后我们这里就是度假胜地!!想象一下渥村四季如春的样子!!!
 
繁体字老大说的好专业。。。

作为文盲,我只想发表一点看法:全球变暖对加拿大应该是个好事情。。。
以后我们这里就是度假胜地!!想象一下渥村四季如春的样子!!!


其實不是這方面的專業... 只是特別怕看見為了特殊目的服務的偽科學。
渥村身處內陸,不會像溫哥華那樣四季如春。夏季會更熱,不過冬季縮短有利農業。可以想像自己當大農場主人的樣子 :D
 
其实我都想到了会有很多不专业的和为专业的出来强烈批判,因为这个涉及许许多多专业的和不专业的“人才”的饭碗:p 。我只是转贴科普新闻上面关于一个科学家的论文,本人也不是这个专业的,面对各种貌似有理和“专业”的评论,只能更相信这方面专业教授/科学家的意见,不敢有外行的质疑,对于其他人激情的非专业的评论,那就。。。更不敢有外行的质疑了:D

作为外行和文盲,我只想发表一点看法:这些个打着环保旗号不断从我兜里榨税骗钱的政客和组织,让他们快去死!
 
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