Duke University---上吗?

如果被好大学录取,本身就说明孩子比较优秀。 一般来讲,比大多数一般孩子会更有成就。 如果继续努力,不去藤校一样会有成就。

如果爹不是老布什,就算上了噎卤, 一般的孩子也不见得多有成就。 凭自己能力被哈佛录取的,就算不去哈佛去一般学校,成就也会不一般的。
这个差点意思,去藤校能把你拔高的,要么怎么是藤校呢。
 
这个差点意思,去藤校能把你拔高的,要么怎么是藤校呢。
不能说藤校不能拔高,但是再怎么拔高,还是要看个人。 再说了,别的学校就不能拔高了?
 
拿做码工的作例子,阿刚昆和多大的高度就不一样,(你若举反例说阿刚昆毕业的做构架师多大的还是朱尼尔,我信,但那太特例了)。赶脚着藤校应该比多大高不少,多大不是不能拔高,一定有,就是太特例了,需要很多倍的努力和运气。
 
不能说藤校不能拔高,但是再怎么拔高,还是要看个人。 再说了,别的学校就不能拔高了?
别的学校能拔高,但您得在top几几的,忒累。藤校一般通吃了。
 
拿做码工的作例子,阿刚昆和多大的高度就不一样,(你若举反例说阿刚昆毕业的做构架师多大的还是朱尼尔,我信,但那太特例了)。赶脚着藤校应该比多大高不少,多大不是不能拔高,一定有,就是太特例了,需要很多倍的努力和运气。
这个靠谱
 
每次都有这样的讨论,做力所能及的事! 什么父母要砸锅卖铁也要上的是图什么呢? 卖了房子住哪里?你卖了房子不就是让孩子念个好学校而已。将来毕业能不能找个好工作买房子还是个问题。 就是有钱买房子了,人家买的房子给你住不住还是个问题。

以前国内有同学申请美国的大学,哈佛斯坦福又怎样,没有全奖都不敢接那热呼呼的offer,值当的

还是那句老话,卖了房子供孩子读书好几年然后打工好多年就为了买房子, 然后父母还不定住上几天。这个帐怎么算怎么2。
 
有些同学不太了解加拿大的信贷系统吧,砸锅卖铁卖房子真的不至于,即便学校要数万数十万现金,并不等于手上必须真的有几麻袋纸钞。。。我见过听过有人被迫交数万账单,不怕,拿房子做抵押贷款呗,抵押房子并不是搬出去住马路,房子还住着,就相当于多一个猫该机,没那么可怕。
 
那个特例基本就是藤校漏网的。靠本事拿MIT哈佛录取通知书的人上个阿刚昆以后也一样能做架构师。

上藤校不光靠本事,还要靠运气,藤校的招生标准比较繁杂,许多好学生由于名额有限被拒。这些人在别的学校也一样能够学好。一样会有出息。理工科藤不藤校的,有没有关系网作用不大。

拿做码工的作例子,阿刚昆和多大的高度就不一样,(你若举反例说阿刚昆毕业的做构架师多大的还是朱尼尔,我信,但那太特例了)。赶脚着藤校应该比多大高不少,多大不是不能拔高,一定有,就是太特例了,需要很多倍的努力和运气。
 
如果不用睡马路,家里能承担,就去。 藤校有些专业,并不能保证在短时间内收回求学成本。

有些同学不太了解加拿大的信贷系统吧,砸锅卖铁卖房子真的不至于,即便学校要数万数十万现金,并不等于手上必须真的有几麻袋纸钞。。。我见过听过有人被迫交数万账单,不怕,拿房子做抵押贷款呗,抵押房子并不是搬出去住马路,房子还住着,就相当于多一个猫该机,没那么可怕。
 
要我,有能力供就上,没能力就算了,出息懂事的孩子读什么大学前途都不会差。。
还真指望不顾一切地把一个孩子供出来,然后等ta出息了来回报父母甚至供弟弟妹妹减轻父母负担?拉倒吧。。要培养个现代西方凤凰男/女?
I think for a normal middle-class family, 家庭生活平和,正常,是孩子成材和幸福的最大保障,其它的,在功名和所谓成就精英上不顾一切地投入,其实生活中也挺多都不是喜剧结局的。。
 
别的学校能拔高,但您得在top几几的,忒累。藤校一般通吃了。

真不认为藤校就咋地了

成功如何来衡量?大部分国人认为赚得多就是成功。

那好

你一年多付进去至少3-4w的学费,4年Easily 15w.

一个大学生刚毕业撑死上下多挣5000$? 多少年才能赚回来?15w/.5 == 30年

更不要说,大学学得那点皮毛跟工作用的一点关系都没有。工作能力跟哪个学校出来有关么?跟学分有关么?
无关。我这里有至少100份各种new grad简历,so far基本上分数跟工作能力成反比,偶尔有例外。

你觉得有几个人是例外?当然大家都相信自己娃是例外,可是真是如此么?

每年毕业生那么多,敢问,有几个人可以几年后在收入上跻身top 5-10%?
http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/10/25/...-do-you-stand-compared-to-the-rest-of-canada/
 
虽然这篇文章是假的
但是还是送给各位看看。有一些道理

Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Oprah Winfrey, Lady Gaga, Walt Disney, Abraham Lincoln... 这些人都有什么共同点?
都是dropouts. o_O


ELLISON TO GRADS: DIPLOMAS ARE FOR LOSERS
Oracle CEO Urges Students to Drop out, Start up

NEW HAVEN, CONN. (SatireWire.com) — In one of the more controversial commencement addresses in memory, Oracle CEO and college dropout Larry Ellison told Yale's Class of 2000 they were "losers" whose hard-won diplomas would never propel them into the ranks of the super rich.
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The evangelical Ellison, noting that college dropouts Bill Gates, Paul Allen, and Michael Dell were, like himself, on Forbes' recent top 10 list of billionaires, urged freshmen and sophomores at the ceremony to "drop out and start up," and added that the undereducated Yale security guards who ushered him off stage probably had a better shot at uber-wealth than graduating seniors.
What follows is a transcript of the speech delivered by Ellison at the Yale University last month:
"Graduates of Yale University, I apologize if you have endured this type of prologue before, but I want you to do something for me. Please, take a good look around you. Look at the classmate on your left. Look at the classmate on your right. Now, consider this: five years from now, 10 years from now, even 30 thirty years from now, odds are the person on your left is going to be a loser. The person on your right, meanwhile, will also be a loser. And you, in the middle? What can you expect? Loser. Loserhood. Loser Cum Laude.
"In fact, as I look out before me today, I don't see a thousand hopes for a bright tomorrow. I don't see a thousand future leaders in a thousand industries. I see a thousand losers.
"You're upset. That's understandable. After all, how can I, Lawrence 'Larry' Ellison, college dropout, have the audacity to spout such heresy to the graduating class of one of the nation's most prestigious institutions? I'll tell you why. Because I, Lawrence "Larry" Ellison, second richest man on the planet, am a college dropout, and you are not.
"Because Bill Gates, richest man on the planet -- for now, anyway -- is a college dropout, and you are not.
"Because Paul Allen, the third richest man on the planet, dropped out of college, and you did not.
"And for good measure, because Michael Dell, No. 9 on the list and moving up fast, is a college dropout, and you, yet again, are not.
"Hmm... you're very upset. That's understandable. So let me stroke your egos for a moment by pointing out, quite sincerely, that your diplomas were not attained in vain. Most of you, I imagine, have spent four to five years here, and in many ways what you've learned and endured will serve you well in the years ahead. You've established good work habits. You've established a network of people that will help you down the road. And you've established what will be lifelong relationships with the word 'therapy.' All that of is good. For in truth, you will need that network. You will need those strong work habits. You will need that therapy.
"You will need them because you didn't drop out, and so you will never be among the richest people in the world. Oh sure, you may, perhaps, work your way up to No. 10 or No. 11, like Steve Ballmer. But then, I don't have to tell you who he really works for, do I? And for the record, he dropped out of grad school. Bit of a late bloomer.
"Finally, I realize that many of you, and hopefully by now most of you, are wondering, 'Is there anything I can do? Is there any hope for me at all?' Actually, no. It's too late. You've absorbed too much, think you know too much. You're not 19 anymore. You have a built-in cap, and I'm not referring to the mortar boards on your heads.
"Hmm... you're really very upset. That's understandable. So perhaps this would be a good time to bring up the silver lining. Not for you, Class of '00. You are a write-off, so I'll let you slink off to your pathetic $200,000-a-year jobs, where your checks will be signed by former classmates who dropped out two years ago.
"Instead, I want to give hope to any underclassmen here today. I say to you, and I can't stress this enough: leave. Pack your things and your ideas and don't come back. Drop out. Start up.
"For I can tell you that a cap and gown will keep you down just as suredly as these security guards dragging me off this stage are keeping me dow..."
 
即使和美国的非藤校比,难道多大和McGill也那么差吗?!这让家里有孩子在加拿大念大学的家长们脸往哪搁啊
 
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