本拿比惊现＂杀光中国人＂涂鸦

[urus]

因为你在界定什么是中国人，想法过于天真。在一般西方白人里眼里，他们根本不理你这套。知道我的意思了吗？

kao , 我那是另一个意思了， 如何界定中国人， 跟毛如何，西方人如何， 没有关系。 我只不过回帖的时候想到了那里， 就写下来了， 俩概念， 不相关， OK?
只不过把两件事情写到一个回帖里了， 况且我故意空了一行，另起一行了呀！

在唐宋时期， 没有现在的所谓西方人打扰的情况下， 中国社会依旧有如何界定中国人的说法。 你难道也去为古人痛心不成？

至于现在的情况， 我之前也说了， 西方白人就是把中国人当个痰盂， 谁都能来吐口痰，踢一脚。 他们才懒得分辨谁是谁呢 （你想想，就跟中国人对老黑们也分不清是西非，中非还是南非人， 反正都是黑人就是了。 。）， 他们不见得恨， 也不见得爱， 就是不把你当个人就是了， 就跟你对待蚂蚁一样：不见得故意去杀蚂蚁， 但是踩死就踩死了， 谁还会对踩死个蚂蚁怎么样呢。 而白人不喜欢黑人，讨厌黑人， 但是他们是把黑人当作人来看的。这就是区别。

无论白人还是黑人， 弄不好，他们为了杀韩国人，顺手就把日本人，中国人，印尼人，越南人都给杀了，心里不会有芥蒂，也不会有感觉。

所以， 不光是“在一般西方白人里眼里，他们根本不理你这套”， 在一般黑人眼里， 在一般latino眼里 。。。 。。。在一般除了中国人意外的人眼里，都分不清， 也不屑于分清什么是中国人， 也不会来理你这一套。

 

[飞来客]

这就对了。
当然唐宋时代中国人概念和现在是不同的。那时打来打去的，现在看来都是中国人。
现在的蛮夷，变成了蓝眼睛、黄头发、红头发等等了。所以要做中国人，千万别乱染什么黄头发、红头发。

 

[xyzology]

没关系，老飞向来秉持『宽柔以教、不报无道』，不会为这点芝麻绿豆跟你计较。
你没能力举出个能令白人敬畏的人，又不爽快承认，是非不明，实在没担当。这种人，还想让白人瞧得起？门都没有，当阿Q去吧。

我不回答你的愚蠢的问题。你糊里糊涂的概念都搞不清。
给你个例子：在小学生数学课上3比2大，但是你3叔要是比你2叔大，你爷爷奶奶就有问题了。
你说“没关系”咋祝愿我去当阿Q？我有空一定再耍耍你，今天有人告诉我：“猢狲还是老的好玩”，不知你是否同意。

 

[飞来客]

我不回答你的愚蠢的问题。你糊里糊涂的概念都搞不清。
给你个例子：在小学生数学课上3比2大，但是你3叔要是比你2叔大，你爷爷奶奶就有问题了。
你说“没关系”咋祝愿我去当阿Q？我有空一定再耍耍你，今天有人告诉我：“猢狲还是老的好玩”，不知你是否同意。

你不愿承认中国人里有两位令西方白人敬畏的强悍人物，但又举不出你心目中的第三位，罗里叭嗦没立场，你知道自己是何许人了吗？

 

[xyzology]

你不愿承认中国人里有两位令西方白人敬畏的强悍人物，但又举不出你心目中的第三位，罗里叭嗦没立场，你知道自己是何许人了吗？

借CFC宝地，我屈尊和你在这里正式来一场论战：
题目-毛泽东是不是西方白人敬畏的强悍人物
论战方式：我问一个问题，你来回答，直至回答的合理时，你提个问题我来回答，然后交替问答
答案评估：请CFC 名人做裁判，以一周为限，多数人认为你回答的合理就算你过关

 

[ccc]

www.comefromchina.com/news/19212/

商场女厕现「杀光中国人」涂鸦 卑诗骑警调查 或以仇恨罪检控

 

[月夕花晨]

加州大学华裔法学院院长发文
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-h-wu/jimmy-kimmel-and-me_b_4296949.html

Jimmy Kimmel and Me
Frank H. Wu
Chancellor & Dean of UC Hastings College of the Law



I was talking to somebody today about the Jimmy Kimmel incident. My friend had not heard about it. That's part of the problem.


It isn't often that genocide is proposed in contemporary culture. That's what has happened.


Jimmy Kimmel, late night television host, recently put on a little comedy sketch in which a kid suggests that we would be better off economically if we "Kill everyone in China."


Kimmel replies, "That's an interesting idea."


The network, ABC, has since apologized.


Another attack on Asians is summarily dismissed.


The issue isn't whether what an actor, whatever his age, was performing a script or was spontaneous. The use of a child makes the matter worse, not better. The point isn't the boy's remarks; it's the adults' response. I wonder if his parents are embarrassed, and if they are because of the commotion that their offspring caused or what he revealed about the home from which he comes.


The professional producers of a hit show should be ashamed to retreat behind the youngster as they have. He has licensed his peers. The cruelty of children toward one another is limitless.


Kimmel reminds me of the responsible grown-ups in the room years ago who always stood by when I faced the regular bullying that defined childhood. Kimmel had only a moment to respond, but he makes his living by his wit. The subject of harassment on a school playground has no more time to react and considerably less support. It was Kimmel who set up the scenario, by prompting his juvenile guests with the declaration that America owes China "a lot of money."


The trouble also isn't that the lad uttered an offensive sentiment. Offensiveness not the best test. Much great art is offensive, not that anybody is mistaking Jimmy Kimmel for Lenny Bruce -- there was a stand-up performer not afraid to confront prejudice rather than reinforce it.


The Kimmel segment was morally wrong if that isn't giving it more importance than it deserves. At a minimum, it calls for discussion. While I'm willing to give the kid a break, we would do well to ponder what he, innocently, reflects about his environment.


The Chinese, and Asians in general, are an easy target. The rise of the East is a perennial theme. Its counterpart among our shared fears is the fall of the West.
The status of China as a creditor and America as a debtor must be addressed. The perceived prospects of the nations will aggravate relations between them.


When I learned about this episode from the news, not being a follower of Jimmy's, I was tempted to shrug it off. It isn't the worst discrimination, I reasoned. If anything, I worry about the triumph of China like anyone else here. I will not benefit as a Chinese American if it turns out my family has bet poorly for three generations.


Look, Jimmy, buddy, we're on the same side. I have my American passport by birthright.


As I processed the events, I was more disturbed by it. The irony is that my assimilation is to no avail. Someone who is angry at a visceral level about China is not likely to make an exception for me as an Anglophile mainline Protestant from the Midwest.


I am not concerned for the Chinese. The Chinese can fend for themselves fine. The average American can do very little to hurt the average Chinese. Half the world, including the Pacific Ocean, lies between them.


But the average American can do quite a bit to harm their Asian American neighbor. They likely won't do that, except a popular comic is egging them on.


The Kimmel kids understood implicitly that the Chinese become Chinese Americans. Another one of the participants suggested building a wall to keep the Chinese from coming over. To which their host added his own smug allusion to the Great Wall.


What is most persuasive about the advocacy on the Kimmel episode is that it has been led by Asian Americans. At the forefront are organizations such as OCA and 80-20. There are Asian Americans who are sixth-generation Californians and those who have been adopted by white parents, as well as those who are "fresh off the boat" in that pejorative phrase. They have come together, at last doing what every other ethnic group has done to achieve true equality.


They reframe the situation. It's common to dismiss anti-Chinese sentiment as being about foreigners, and ones assumed to be wealthy at that. I can't count how often, even if the racial reference is explicit, people assure me that this type of comment isn't even about race at all.


OCA and 80-20 emphasize that universal principles are at stake. It's not about Chinese; it's about people. Failing that, they at least are able to point out that "Chinese" is ambiguous -- it encompasses Americans as well. Anyone who starts off killing everyone in China won't likely stop at the borders of the nation.


OCA was formed as a Chinese American civil rights group. The initials originally stood for "Organization of Chinese Americans." At its founding two generations ago, it decided it would stay away from foreign relations controversies. Like other groups of its type, it sought to ensure it was recognized as a domestic civil rights organization and tried to downplay internal tensions among Chinese Americans over the status of Taiwan. More recently, it has sought to encompass all Asian Americans in a bridge building effort. Its current executive director exemplifies the idea: he is Japanese in heritage.


80-20, started by a Chinese immigrant physicist who was the Lieutenant Governor of Delaware (no, I am not making that up), is dedicated to the great democratic tradition of ethnic bloc voting and inspired by the Jewish example. Its goal is to make Asian Americans relevant in electoral politics by delivering the margin of victory. It uses primarily email to reach a vast audience of Asian Americans who are mobilized in a manner never before seen.


To explain to people who are not themselves Chinese why the Kimmel skit is not acceptable, most arguments rely on facile analogy. Imagine if the comedian had said, "Save America. Kill the Jews." (It isn't any better if it were rendered a more precise parallel. Try it out: "Kill everyone in Israel.") Or Blacks, and so on.


Yet observers nonetheless often excuse these moments. It's only a joke, lighten up, get over it, no need to overreact, don't be so politically correct.


They don't appreciate the threat. Allow me to communicate it.


What if a blogger were to say, "Kill Jimmy Kimmel." And then added, "Just kidding . . ."


Perhaps Jimmy will feel differently walking around then. He will experience the edge of humor. It wouldn't be merely the Chinese he would be afraid of either; it would be the Japanese and Koreans and Vietnamese too. After all, we all look alike.


"Kill Jimmy Kimmel." But that would be inappropriate to say.

 

[月夕花晨]

1982年6月23日，华裔青年陈果仁(Vincent Chin)在底特律(Detroit)的街头，被两名失业的白人汽车修理工误以为是日本人，用棒球棍将他暴打致死，因为他们憎恨大量进口的日本汽车造成美 国汽车工人失业。但在两名凶手认罪「误杀」后，仅被法庭轻判罚款3780元和缓刑3年。
　　这起臭名昭着的仇恨犯罪案和法庭判审不公，激起了亚裔社区的极大愤慨，洛 杉 矶、三藩市、底特律、纽约和华府掀起抗议浪潮，成为美国亚裔民权运动的发端。

　　南加州亚太法律中心创办人、资深民权律师郭志明(Stewart Kwoh)，30年前接下的第一桩案就是帮助陈果仁的母亲陈丽丽打这场民权官司。他走上街头发表演说，动员亚裔社区抗争，为受害人伸张正义，还死者一个公 道。1999年初，华裔女作家李丽珠将陈果仁命案改编成话剧搬上舞台 ，2月底在洛杉矶「东西剧场」上演，饰演陈果仁的母亲陈丽丽的演员，就是郭志明的母亲、好莱坞优秀的亚裔女演员之一郭邓如鸯。郭氏母子分别走上法庭和舞台 为陈果仁伸张正义。

　　2012年6月23日，郭志明在日美博物馆主持「陈果仁30年：亚裔站起来」纪念论坛，透过谷歌(Google)视频网向全国35个城市转播，结合各地民权领袖联网讨论，将亚裔反仇恨犯罪和反霸凌歧视的民权运动推向新一波高潮。

　　该场论坛发起人、亚美进步协会会长陈国材(Curtis Chin)说，他的家庭和陈果仁的家庭是朋友，陈果仁遇害后及司法判决不公，他的母亲陈丽丽悲愤难忍，一度返回中国定居，但最后仍老死美国。陈果仁命案说 明，美国社会依然存在着种族歧视和仇恨犯罪，亚裔因为语言障碍和人口较少，比较脆弱、易受欺凌，争取平等权益尤其重要。

　　但是，陈果仁命案引发了亚裔第一次全国性抗争运动，寻求司法正义，成为亚裔民权运动的发端，影响深远。近年来，陈国材又将陈果仁命案制成视频短片，去年下半年应国际人道团体邀请赴挪威和英国演讲，介绍陈果仁命案和亚裔民权运动。

 

[月夕花晨]

当人家要杀你时，会问你持什么护照吗？
你知道陈果仁因何而枉死的吗？你这些问题显得太幼稚了！有此糊涂想法，令人痛心。

不但仇恨中国人，会威胁到在美在加华裔。
即使仇恨日本人，也有华裔受连累冤死的前车之鉴。

对Jimmy事件要警惕。不但华裔要警惕，亚裔全要警惕。
不管亚裔的护照有多不同，亚裔的外形相似，作为打击和被害目标，亚裔没什么区别。

所以对Jimmy事件，美国日裔议员也出面谴责。这一点，值得肯定，值得某些对此事件不屑或不警惕的的华裔学习。

 

[飞来客]

借CFC宝地，我屈尊和你在这里正式来一场论战：
题目-毛泽东是不是西方白人敬畏的强悍人物
论战方式：我问一个问题，你来回答，直至回答的合理时，你提个问题我来回答，然后交替问答
答案评估：请CFC 名人做裁判，以一周为限，多数人认为你回答的合理就算你过关

你想和我正式辩论吗？可以的，不过需要等你学养提高之后，有能力读懂毛泽东著作了，了解毛泽东一生事迹了，能分辨什么是大是大非了，这辩论才会有意义。否则以你现在这点骂街水平，我不想令你难堪，还是谦虚点为好。

 

[GuardianAngel]

你想和我正式辩论吗？可以的，不过需要等你学养提高之后，有能力读懂毛泽东著作了，了解毛泽东一生事迹了，能分辨什么是大是大非了，这辩论才会有意义。否则以你现在这点骂街水平，我不想令你难堪，还是谦虚点为好。

毛主席万岁。万寿无疆。1970
东方红，太阳升。

 

[xyzology]

你想和我正式辩论吗？可以的，不过需要等你学养提高之后，有能力读懂毛泽东著作了，了解毛泽东一生事迹了，能分辨什么是大是大非了，这辩论才会有意义。否则以你现在这点骂街水平，我不想令你难堪，还是谦虚点为好。

你整个一不学无术，满嘴大话、空话的文革”知青“。改革开放的一大功绩就是撕下了毛泽东“神圣”的伪装；还原他混蛋、王八蛋的本来面目。现在连90后的大陆青年都认识到毛泽东卖国与前苏联丑恶嘴脸，你还在这里推销他的种种。你所期盼的东西一去不复返了。

你连简单的汉语逻辑都不懂，我要你参加辩论，不是请你做裁判。辩论有无意义不用你来预设。你还是虚心跟你女儿学学吧。

毛泽东自作聪明，以为把你这样的人都”搞成傻瓜“就好愚弄、好统治。殊不知，你这样的傻瓜也是没有能力保他的。

毛泽东以为出兵朝鲜就可以把党内异己的精锐全部剿灭，他连自己的儿子也不放过，以为这样就可以一人独做天下-万万岁。可天意难违，他勉强活了几十岁，而且死前十几年就痴呆。

你先消化消化这些良药。

 

[飞来客]

你整个一不学无术，满嘴大话、空话的文革”知青“。改革开放的一大功绩就是撕下了毛泽东“神圣”的伪装；还原他混蛋、王八蛋的本来面目。现在连90后的大陆青年都认识到毛泽东卖国与前苏联丑恶嘴脸，你还在这里推销他的种种。你所期盼的东西一去不复返了。

你连简单的汉语逻辑都不懂，我要你参加辩论，不是请你做裁判。辩论有无意义不用你来预设。你还是虚心跟你女儿学学吧。

毛泽东自作聪明，以为把你这样的人都”搞成傻瓜“就好愚弄、好统治。殊不知，你这样的傻瓜也是没有能力保他的。

毛泽东以为出兵朝鲜就可以把党内异己的精锐全部剿灭，他连自己的儿子也不放过，以为这样就可以一人独做天下-万万岁。可天意难违，他勉强活了几十岁，而且死前十几年就痴呆。

你先消化消化这些良药。

你怎么还如此不开窍呢？骂街是弱者的体现。胡说八道，自以为是，不能给你带来尊严，好自为之。

 

[xyzology]

你怎么还如此不开窍呢？骂街是弱者的体现。胡说八道，自以为是，不能给你带来尊严，好自为之。

我陈述事实，你却多次污我“骂街”。那么我建议你去听听这个：《雍正王朝》第四集中田文敬回老状元的那一段。注意你就是那倚老卖老的老状元-http://www.iqiyi.com/v_19rrifujut.html；去读读这个：《三国演义》第93回，你就是那妄称天数的王朗-http://www.purepen.com/sgyy/093.htm。

 

[飞来客]

我陈述事实，你却多次污我“骂街”。那么我建议你去听听这个：《雍正王朝》第四集中田文敬回老状元的那一段。注意你就是那倚老卖老的老状元-http://www.iqiyi.com/v_19rrifujut.html；去读读这个：《三国演义》第93回，你就是那妄称天数的王朗-http://www.purepen.com/sgyy/093.htm。

所以你是自以为是，还说是『陈述事实』，老飞是老状元和王朗吗？
既然你提到《三国演义》，问你个大是大非的问题，你认为诸葛亮扶佐刘备，鞠躬尽瘁，是好是坏？