国殇纪念日的感动

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今天只是在家看CBC的现场报道,也让我感动落泪。看到敬献花圈时,我特别有感于这三个花圈:
Mother of Canada, Senior Solders of Canada, First Nation of Canada.

据有关资料记载,在第一次世界大战中,加拿大有七百二十万人参战,约六万人战死。[在第二次世界大战中,加拿大有11万人参战,约四万五战死。

大多数的战士都是二十多岁的年轻人。他们志愿赴欧洲参战,许多战士再也没有回来。
加拿大国殇纪念日并不是纪念战争的胜利,而是纪念所有为保卫和平和自由献出生命的战士。

我作为一个华人移民到加拿大,亲身感受到这个民主国家和人民对自由的崇尚,和对人和生命的尊重。
今天是感动的一天。
 
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Margaret Wente

The face Canada showed the world
Margaret Wente
The Globe and Mail
Published Saturday, Nov. 08 2014, 8:00 AM EST

I put on my poppy a few days early this year. I suppose a lot of people did. This Remembrance Day, we’re wearing them for two freshly fallen soldiers, Corporal Nathan Cirillo and Warrant Officer Patrice Vincent. They loved their country and they died because they wore its uniform.
It is a strange new world we’re in. Twice in one week, a deadly foreign conflict came to our backyard. That shakes a nation. The trick is to protect ourselves without losing our confidence and our values. How are we doing so far? http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/the-face-canada-showed-the-world/article21486598/
 
二战我知道,反法西斯战争,正义战胜谢俄。一次大战,谁跟谁打来着?:confused:
 
看了是如此的让人感动。
而且,在全国从大城到小镇都是这样,所有的老士兵集中到DOWNTOWN ,来记念这样一个特殊的节日。
那么多年了,九妹还亲眼看到过那些老士兵,有的行动真的非常不方便,但他们仍然每年风雨不改的坚持凭吊他们逝去的战友们。
 
二战我知道,反法西斯战争,正义战胜谢俄。一次大战,谁跟谁打来着?:confused:

It is not about the war, it is about lives lost.
 
..........加拿大有七百二十万人参战............? 可能是笔误吧,

查史料:
--1914年8月14日宣战的时候,加拿大总人口只不过7百80万人,没有空军,只有弱小的海军,以及3千现役陆军,外加6万后备役陆军。
---1914年8月4日,英国向德国宣战.............加拿大向西线战场派遣了四个师。
 
这标题明摆着是让村长奔溃的节奏!@ccc
 
General Statistics
Canada at War: Participation and Casualties
South Africa War (1899-1902)
Approximately 7,000 Canadians served; almost 300 of them gave their lives. They are commemorated in the South African War / Nile Expedition Book of Remembrance.
First World War (1914-1918)
Approximately 650,000 Canadians served, including members of the Canadian Expeditionary Force, Canadians and Newfoundlanders who served with British forces (Newfoundland was a colony of Great Britain until 1949) and merchant mariners. Of this number, more than 68,000 gave their lives. They are commemorated in the First World War Book of Remembrance, the Merchant Navy Book of Remembrance and the Newfoundland Book of Remembrance.
Second World War (1939-1945)
More than one million Canadians and Newfoundlanders served in Canada's Armed Forces, in Allied forces or in the merchant navy; over 47,000 of them gave their lives. They are commemorated in the Second World War Book of Remembrance, the Merchant Navy Book of Remembrance and the Newfoundland Book of Remembrance.
Note: The Newfoundland Book of Remembrance commemorates the men and women of Newfoundland who gave their lives in defence of freedom during both the First and Second World Wars - before Newfoundland became a province of Canada on April 1, 1949. The Merchant Navy Book of Remembrance commemorates the men and women of the Merchant Marine who gave their lives while serving Canada at sea during both the First World War and the Second World War.
Korean War (1950-1953)
26,791 Canadians served in the Canadian Army Special Force; 516 of them gave their lives. They are commemorated in the Korean War Book of Remembrance.
In the Service of Canada (as of March 2014)
More then 1,800 Canadians are commemorated in the Seventh Book of Remembrance, In the Service of Canada. They gave their lives in service to their country, including peacekeeping and other foreign military operations, domestic operations and training, since October 1947, with the exception of those commemorated in the Korean War Book of Remembrance. The Seventh Book of Remembrance is unique because it is a living document that will be used to commemorate those who have given their lives "In the Service of Canada" for generations to come. The names of Canadian Forces personnel whose deaths were related to Afghanistan service are commemorated in this Book.
Estimated Veteran Population as of March 2014**
Second World War
88,400; their average age is 90.
Korean War
9,800; their average age is 82.
CF Veterans (Regular Forces and Primary Reserves)
599,200; their average age is 56.
http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/news/general-statistics
 
It is not about the war, it is about lives lost.

是吗?太平洋战争大日本皇军 lives 也 lost 不少,那么说靖国神社挺感动人地嘛?

对待战争,还是要有立场的。先声明,对于纪念碑上标有日期的的二战、韩战,以及新增的阿富汗战,我和主流立场一致,而一战,以及新增的南非战争(上上个世纪的事情),我不知道,所以我坚持“立场不坚定”,谁给讲讲?
 
..........加拿大有七百二十万人参战............? 可能是笔误吧,

查史料:
--1914年8月14日宣战的时候,加拿大总人口只不过7百80万人,没有空军,只有弱小的海军,以及3千现役陆军,外加6万后备役陆军。
---1914年8月4日,英国向德国宣战.............加拿大向西线战场派遣了四个师。

查了一下,一战,约65万人参战,68,000多人牺牲;二战,100多万人参战,47,000多人献身。

那是年轻人打起背包就出发。
 
最后编辑:
是吗?太平洋战争大日本皇军 lives 也 lost 不少,那么说靖国神社挺感动人地嘛?

对待战争,还是要有立场的。先声明,对于纪念碑上标有日期的的二战、韩战,以及新增的阿富汗战,我和主流立场一致,而一战,以及新增的南非战争(上上个世纪的事情),我不知道,所以我坚持“立场不坚定”,谁给讲讲?

南非战争,应该说的是这段:
The Second Boer War (or Second South African War) (1899–1902)[edit]
Main article: Second Boer War
The exact causes of the Second Anglo-Boer War in 1899 have been disputed ever since the events took place. Fault for the war has been placed on both sides, for different reasons. The Boers felt that the British intention was to again annexe the Transvaal. Some feel that the British were coerced into war by the mining magnates; others that the British government manipulated the magnates into creating conditions that allowed the war to ignite. It appears that the British did not begin with the intention of annexation. They simply wanted to ensure that British strength and the regional economic and political stability of the British Empire remained unchanged.[21] The British worried about popular support for the war and wanted to push the Boers to make the first move toward actual hostilities. This occurred when the Transvaal issued an ultimatum on 9 October for the British to withdraw all troops from their borders and recall their reinforcements, or they would “regard the action as a formal declaration of war.”[22]
Over time, the war has come to be viewed as a "White Man’s War." Recent scholarship has exposed this as untrue. Black people were used on both sides, primarily in non-combat roles, as labourers. The British employed armed black men as scouts or dispatch riders, and were going to employ unarmed black scouts, but decided to continue arming them when the Boers began shooting at the scouts and dispatch riders as spies. The Boers also employed black men during the war, who mostly helped with digging defensive emplacements and roads for the transport of weaponry. They served in this capacity primarily during the initial conventional phase of the war.[23]
The Second Boer War consisted of three phases. It began with a Boer offensive to besiege the garrisons at Ladysmith, Mafeking, and Kimberley, after a quick mobilisation of their commando units from each district, drawing up to 30–40,000 men. The Boers used a quick-hitting mobile style of war, based on their experiences fighting the British in the first Boer War, along with lessons learned from studying the American Civil War. Early British attempts to relieve these besieged garrisons met with mixed results. The British felt that the war would be ended quickly. They were ill-prepared to face the well-equipped Boers, losing a large number of men in their first attempts to push into places such as Magersfontein, Stormberg, and Colenso.[24]
The second phase began with Britain re-elling from defeats and deploying the largest British force ever sent overseas to South Africa. The British commander, Sir Redvers Buller, and his subordinate Major General Charles Warren, began the British offensive with an attack on the hill of Spion Kop. While the British won this battle, they belatedly realised that the hill was over-watched by Boer gun emplacements and suffered heavy casualties. Buller suffered another defeat at Vaal Krantz and was relieved as commander of British forces over questions of his management of the war. His replacement was Field Marshal Lord Frederick Roberts. Roberts managed to win a series of battles by committing overwhelming numbers of British forces against the Boers. He pushed into and captured the Orange Free State in May 1900 and then pushed into the Transvaal to capture Johannesburg on 31 May. Roberts declared the war over after the capture of the Orange Free State and Johannesburg, announcing the formation of the Transvaal Colony and the Orange River Colony, incorporated in 1902. It was at this point that the Boers, initially demoralised by the overwhelming numbers of British troops, began the third phase of the Second Boer War: the guerilla campaign.[25]
After regrouping into smaller units, the Boer commanders started using guerrilla tactics, destroying railways, bridges, and telegraph wires. Their leaders included Louis Botha in the eastern Transvaal; Koos de la Rey and Jan Smuts in western Transvaal; and Christian de Wet in the Orange Free State. The British were not prepared for this type of tactic, having an insufficient number of mounted troops and no intelligence personnel. They moved against the civilian population that supported the Boers, burning their houses and barns. Nonetheless, support for the Boers remained strong. To deal with families wandering across the countryside without shelter, the British decided to set up what they considered to be refugee camps, in September 1900. In December 1900 Herbert Kitchener of Khartoum took over command of the British army, continuing the scorched-earth policy. He believed that women served as a source of intelligence for the Boers, so he put them in concentration camps. Additionally, he set up blockhouses and barbed wire fences to restrict the Boers to a certain area. In January 1901, Kitchener raided the countryside, putting Africans and Boer civilians into concentration camps. When he learned that Louis Botha was interested in peace, he jumped at the opportunity, using Botha's wife and an intermediary. Nothing came of the talks, for Sir Alfred Milner insisted that nothing but full surrender would be acceptable to the British. The Boers wanted independence, and in June 1901, Boer leaders came together and stated that no proposal would be considered unless it included their independence. Conditions in the concentration camps worsened, and the problem was not brought to public attention until an Englishwoman Emily Hobhouse did her own investigation and sailed back to England with the intention of exposing Kitchener for what he was permitting. The war minister, Brodick, dismissed the complaints of Hobhouse and her supporters in parliament, stating that it was Boer guerilla tactics that had led to the methods currently in use. The military situation for the troops of De Wet, Botha, and De la Rey had worsened, for Kitchener's blockhouses and fences were posing a serious problem. Additionally, three-quarters of the Boer's cattle had been killed and taken away and they were struggling just to survive. Though De la Rey (in March 1902) captured General Lord Paul Methuen and 600 troops, he had to let them go because he had no place to keep them. At this time there were many that decided that it would be best to simply accept British rule, some of them serving as guides. These "joiners," as they were called, disagreed with those Boers who continued fighting at great risk, though they knew there would never be a military success.
By this time Kitchener had built an army of 250,000 troops, built 8000 blockhouses, and had 3,700 miles (6,000 km) of commandos(???). He also changed his tactics towards women and children. Rather than packing them off to concentration camps, he told his troops to leave them where they found them, so that the burden of taking care of them fell on the Boers. This further pushed the Boers towards negotiations.[26]
Negotiations for ending the war began in April 1902. Proposals were sent back and forth and rejected by both sides as being unreasonable. At times it looked as if the negotiations would fail and the war would continue. The Boers were granted some concessions on the treatment of Cape Afrikaner rebels and the rights of the black Africans. Perhaps the most surprising thing to come out of the negotiations was that the Transvaal and Orange Free State would have to recognise King Edward VII as sovereign over their land. Many of the people of the Orange Free State and Transvaal considered this a betrayal of one of their key tenets for fighting in the first place.[27]

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South African Wars (1879–1915)
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Ethnic, political and social tensions among European colonial powers, indigenous Africans, and English and Dutch settlers led to open conflict in a series of wars and revolts between 1879 and 1915 that would have lasting repercussions on the entire region of southern Africa. Pursuit of commercial empire as well as individual aspirations, especially after the discovery of gold (1886) and diamonds (1867), were key factors driving these developments.[1]
 
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