安省政府公布新版性教育课程: 6岁学性 初中提口交

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北欧很激进。我老人家辛苦找到了dutch model。原来人家先进的教纲是between 12~15 year old.

I finally opened the huge PDF file about famous dutch model . I did not find the age of sex-orientation sex-diversity education of Holland. In this article which appraised the dutch model,

"This open talk is how some teachers in the Netherlands approach sexuality with students between 12 and 15 ye a rs old. S u bsidised by the Dutch gove rn m e n t ,the “L a n g l e ve de liefde”(“Long Live Love”) package wa s d e veloped in the late 1980s, when AI D S became recognised as a threatening health p r o b l e m . “A I D S was an impetus for sex educ ation in schools,” s ays Jo Reinders of Soab e s t ri j d i n g, the Dutch foundation for STD (sexually transmitted diseases) control,w h i c h d e veloped the package in consultation with c h u r c h e s , health officials and family planning organizat i o n s. “It forced teachers to become more explicit and to discuss norm s and values using a part i c i p at o ry approach.”

This paragraph obviously stated that their sex education (dutch model) is between 12~15 year old. Not 8. Maybe I missed some text. So, maybe you could provide me a more detailed instruction. It would be my pleasure to discuss science with you here. And this article did not discuss about sex oreintaiton/diversity neither, too radical.

Talk about the names of the body part, teach them the cycle of life, and that some family may have two moms or two dads. That's what is involved for the new curriculum for Grade 1-3. You can read it again in http://bbs.comefromchina.com/threads/1427644/page-2#post-9281649
Grade 1-3, means 6 - 9 year olds. So at age of 8, why would those be inappropriate for them to know?

In Grade 5, that's when they really go into details about scientifically how an egg gets fertilized and such. Grade 5 means age 11/12. Which is pretty in-line with the Dutch one, in my opinion. Especially given that some kids physically mature earlier nowadays.

 

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你看错段落了。再看。

I disagree with his whole video. I watched it once, have no interest to watch this garbage again.
If you don't mind, you can quote his words here.

 

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Talk about the names of the body part, teach them the cycle of life, and that some family may have two moms or two dads. That's what is involved for the new curriculum for Grade 1-3. You can read it again in http://bbs.comefromchina.com/threads/1427644/page-2#post-9281649
Grade 1-3, means 6 - 9 year olds. So at age of 8, why would those be inappropriate for them to know?

In Grade 5, that's when they really go into details about scientifically how an egg gets fertilized and such. Grade 5 means age 11/12. Which is pretty in-line with the Dutch one, in my opinion. Especially given that some kids physically mature earlier nowadays.

为了照顾两三个个别早熟的，强迫全班20几号天真地小朋友去学习他们还没有必要知道的。
什么逻辑？

 

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I disagree with his whole video. I watched it once, have no interest to watch this garbage again.
If you don't mind, you can quote his words here.

贴那个视频，越多人看越好。你们看完，也积极参与讨论。鼓励一下。视频里关于pervert的有几段。大家看看家长是不是有权利担心呢？

 

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为了照顾两三个个别早熟的，强迫全班20几号天真地小朋友去学习他们还没有必要知道的。
什么逻辑？

两三个个别早熟的？你还是看看这篇老文章吧。
http://www.cwhn.ca/en/node/39365

Small cohort studies indicate that Canadian data are comparable. According to Professor Diane Francœur, specialist in Obstetrics and Gynecology at the University of Montreal, the Canadian pattern is similar, though no wide-ranging, Canadian-specific studies have yet been completed.

White girls in the United States now menstruate at an average age of 12.6 years and black girls at 12.1 years, while Mexican American girls menstruate at an average age of 12.2 years (though it is not clear how far these differences in menarche can be traced back, since most of the historical documentation focuses on white American and European girls).

注意，是average，不是一两个特别的。

 

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I disagree with his whole video. I watched it once, have no interest to watch this garbage again.
If you don't mind, you can quote his words here.

一看你就是不理智的类型。
我反对新教纲的部分内容，但我支持大多数内容。只是觉得一部分内容太早了。
对于别人的观点，全部否定，不加以分析。不成熟的行为。

 

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On average, girls begin puberty at ages 10–11; boys at ages 11–12.[1][2] Girls usually complete puberty by ages 15–17,[2][3][4] while boys usually complete puberty by ages 16–17.[2][3][5]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puberty

10岁开始较性取向，我赞成。8岁开始。史无前例。

 

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一看你就是不理智的类型。
我反对新教纲的部分内容，但我支持大多数内容。只是觉得一部分内容太早了。
对于别人的观点，全部否定，不加以分析。不成熟的行为。

我已经说过了，我看完了这个视频，我哪里说我不加以分析？
我只是懒得再去回顾每个细节而已。
你如果愿意，你把他说的贴出来，我来反驳。
这样也算不理智？

 

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这么早，人口增长率还这么低。怎么弄的？

 

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On average, girls begin puberty at ages 10–11; boys at ages 11–12.[1][2] Girls usually complete puberty by ages 15–17,[2][3][4] while boys usually complete puberty by ages 16–17.[2][3][5]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puberty

10岁开始较性取向，我赞成。8岁开始。史无前例。

教育孩子家庭组成，除了一父一母，也有可能是有两个母亲，或者两个父亲，或者单亲等，这也算教育孩子性取向？

除了这个以外，请你给出8岁教育性取向的证据。

 

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我已经说过了，我看完了这个视频，我哪里说我不加以分析？
我只是懒得再去回顾每个细节而已。
你如果愿意，你把他说的贴出来，我来反驳。
这样也算不理智？

当然，每次我看到全盘否定别人的帖子，就知道没有含金量了。不与你讨论了，我们为人父母的担心冒进伤害孩子而已。没孩子的不必一起操心。以后有孩子再说吧。

 

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一看你就是不理智的类型。
我反对新教纲的部分内容，但我支持大多数内容。只是觉得一部分内容太早了。
对于别人的观点，全部否定，不加以分析。不成熟的行为。

我也这么觉得。 完全没必要的提前。

 

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教育孩子家庭组成，除了一父一母，也有可能是有两个母亲，或者两个父亲，或者单亲等，这也算教育孩子性取向？

除了这个以外，请你给出8岁教育性取向的证据。

你自己看看多伦多教育局的课后辅导材料。就知道我说的意思了。什么是pervert。

 

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你自己看看多伦多教育局的课后辅导材料。就知道我说的意思了。什么是pervert。

这个在哪里看？

 

[某某]

当然，每次我看到全盘否定别人的帖子，就知道没有含金量了。不与你讨论了，我们为人父母的担心冒进伤害孩子而已。没孩子的不必一起操心。以后有孩子再说吧。

我有小孩，又不是什么秘密，大家都知道。
你quote，我评论，就这么简单。
我不是没有看过就全盘否定，是看过了，在看的时候，就逐条都否定了。因为他的言论在我看来，就是每一条都站不住脚。难道还要强迫我找一个什么来肯定一下？
好吧，他穿得不多，挺健康的估计。